On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 6:47 PM, Okechukwu <okechukwu@gmail.com> wrote:

@Aki I must say that your discussions in list are some of the small inspirational moments we do have, so just keep up & let it out. Maybe we need to weekly set an agenda on what to discuss while we let the other commercial threads go on. We could all come up with such topics and see how far these goes. There are a lot of mind jogging discussions we have had here in the past and with more participation, we can have more. Have to say you do sometimes kill it off, like the CVT discussion where you first rubbished, like Jeremy Clarkson, my one and only love - The Mitsubishi Pajero, LOL!

./Ok3ch

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Frankly, I dont know what went wrong with KE and the tech sector. But after almost 24 years in the grind, the KE tech sector is in truly a dump ( alias for shit-hole ). Kila mtu ni biashara kwanza, then tech discussions. I recently met a very interesting person who himself is not a technologist but knows more than me about e.g. ZFS filesytems. This guy was like super amazing, not a technologist and technology is not his career but he is a true tech artist. He would easily replace most techs I known over the years. I enjoyed a conversation with him that lasted more than 6 hours, ofcourse with the usual coffee and smokes too.

Each day I find it next to impossible to communicate with KE guys on tech issues because we are not sharing our fights for what we believe in, what we want to do and being in a developing country is far more frustrating than many of you know. But KE is home and so we have to work with what we have.

For some of us, we don't know what the next step in technology is because we covered almost a lot of the stuff that there is. @Frankline was so right to say that we need to move away from being "users and administrators". Even code is super nice and now taking time patiently to master it for a few more years but hey, where are the people who are passionate about code putting up simple threads that are motivational to many out there.

I personally think it over in the KE tech scene, it's at a point of no recovery. The motivation is purely financial gain, not the core that built the systems and engineers. This is our biggest set back.

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