@Kennedy We are trying to see how we can be more informed on this. I didn't mean to argue on your opinion. Everyone of us is affected by this and the fluctuation creates uncertainty on personal and business budgets. On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote:
People there are no arguments here just a lively discussion. Its never that serious. In my opinion the fluctuations affect every industry but the power industry seems to inflate the effect too much. I think a live calculator on the site to show how many units I expect for a given amount of money and a comprehensive breakdown would alleviate most of our woes.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Kennedy Kairu Kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com>wrote:
When the meters we being installed, they were sharing a booklet showing how the calculation was being done. It even went further to show a comparison with postpaid.
After I got to understand this my cost has been consistent since Feb last year or there about. Makes sense somehow.
On 2/7/14, Kennedy Aseda <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote:
Ambrose, Or another option would be for Kenya Power to provide an SMS or Web System where you can query how much it would cost to get X units for a specific meter number. That, I think is very easy for them to provide - if they are interested/bothered enough
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Kennedy Aseda <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote:
Ambrose, I dint mean to get into an argument, and neither am I a Kenya Power employee. I am just using my own understanding of the current situation, sharing how to handle the situation and also my little knowledge of tariffs and power systems dynamics in the country.
If you read my previous post, maybe we need another player - but as it stands, there are many dynamics especially with KenGen, Independent power producers, etc that needs to be fixed.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 7:05 PM, ambrose kimaiyo <mail2ambrose@gmail.com>wrote:
Kennedy,
That knowing which we do not know is what we are trying to get. By KPLC giving us the monthly formula. Some rogue employee or admin could adjust the system and make millions in a day. Someone mentioned the ERC rates, atleast when you go to a filling station you know with this amount I will get this litres of fuel or kerosene. You get the point. What is so hard for KPLC doing the same?
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Kennedy Aseda <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote:
Jimmy, I dont know how you will do it, but for me I somehow get the same units every month (+/- 10 units) for the same KES budget.
But still, maybe Kenya Power (and its partners) needs to reduce dependence on diesel generators for the grid and we also ensure other factors (outside control of Kenya Power - like exchange rates) remain constant.
Or we open up the market and let alternative power distributors set up systems.
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Jimmy Thuo <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kennedy > Thats one of our problems, if I establish that I require 150 units > per > month, how do I determine the amount of money needed to buy those > units? > That's why we need the formula. > On 7 Feb 2014 18:03, "Kennedy Aseda" <samskid5@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My advise: >> >> 1. Buy what you need - number of units needed per month >> 2. Dont buy wholesale - dont buy units for 10k at a go when you >> need 3k per month (you will spend most of your money buying at over >> 12bob >> per unit) >> 3. Dont buy per day - budget for your whole month >> 4. Standing charge is meant to be charged every month - even when >> you still have units. Thus if you buy once for multiple months, it >> will be >> deducted in your next purchase for each month you dint buy >> >> Otherwise, power rates always fluctuate in Kenya based on exchange >> rates, the diesel generators used to supplement the grid, and many >> other >> factors. Maybe we need all these to be standardized >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 4:33 PM, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I dont think the issue is Prepaid tokens, am on postpaid bill and my >>> Jan bill has doubled i have been paying 2K and 25XX when on higher >>> side, my >>> Jan bill is 4,333.04..! and FYI i have not added any electrical >>> equipment >>> in my house.! >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Thuo Wilson <lixton@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> kplctokenformula just tweeted on tht >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Wilson./ >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7 February 2014 12:38, Mark Mwangi <mwangy@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think #kplctokenformula would work. Can we get more suggestions >>>>> then we can start it off. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Jimmy Thuo >>>>> <jimmy.thuo@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My hashtag suggestions >>>>>> >>>>>> #DiscloseKPLCTokenFormula >>>>>> >>>>>> #WeWantKPLCPrepaidFormula >>>>>> >>>>>> #KPLCTokenFormula >>>>>> >>>>>> I had raised the issue with Cofek but it landed on deaf ears. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Alex Gabriel < >>>>>> alexgabbie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Mr.Ambrose I totally support you..tweeter is the way to go?Let >>>>>>> us >>>>>>> make it a trending topic. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Who wants to take full leadership and come up with a harsh >>>>>>> tag?By >>>>>>> all means there is definitely a huge number of Kenyan's who would >>>>>>> love to >>>>>>> get the monthly calculation formula. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Alex Gabriel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM, ambrose kimaiyo < >>>>>>> mail2ambrose@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lets take this issue to twitter, I am sure there are many more >>>>>>>> Kenyans in need of answers to similar question. Lets petition >>>>>>>> kplc to >>>>>>>> publish their monthly formula. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Alex Gabriel < >>>>>>>> alexgabbie@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I totally agree with you Jimmy....Just as the the fuel prices >>>>>>>>> changes are published/announced every mid month as is with the >>>>>>>>> current >>>>>>>>> trend...KPLC should also be publishing/announcing the estimated >>>>>>>>> if not >>>>>>>>> actual units one should expect whenever clients are buying the >>>>>>>>> the tokes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Alex Gabriel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Jimmy Thuo < >>>>>>>>> jimmy.thuo@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To me the whole system is suspect. There is something fishy >>>>>>>>>> about it. This formula should not be a secret if at all it was >>>>>>>>>> genuine. I >>>>>>>>>> should actually be able to calculate how many units I want and >>>>>>>>>> pay for >>>>>>>>>> exactly that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:56 AM, ambrose kimaiyo < >>>>>>>>>> mail2ambrose@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The prepaid system is a good idea but we need to know how >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> units are allocated. The entire formula should be published >>>>>>>>>>> every month as >>>>>>>>>>> they keep changing based on the exchange rates and other >>>>>>>>>>> factors. They need >>>>>>>>>>> to account. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Thuo Wilson < >>>>>>>>>>> lixton@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> its never the same. High time they provided a portal where >>>>>>>>>>>> we can get their matrixes. >>>>>>>>>>>> What they provide when installing is vague. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson./ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 February 2014 11:39, Mark Mwangi >>>>>>>>>>>> <mwangy@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am rather confused by the rates used by Kenya Power for >>>>>>>>>>>>> issuing power units. 2000 /- does not get you a consistent >>>>>>>>>>>>> no. of units yet >>>>>>>>>>>>> the exchange rate is rather stable. Just this morning 2,000 >>>>>>>>>>>>> bob got me 117 >>>>>>>>>>>>> units which lasts about 12 days at 10 units a day. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How much do listers get? 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