And if you have noticed, if you are using a phone with 3G and its on, you will be charged 8 bob regardless of time or your location. Why dont they tell this information to their customers using 3G? On 9/24/09, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
I thot some1 had to subscribe to this tariff?*212*1# i believe? Aren't there terms and conditions behind the ad in the daily? CCK directed to be notified a month for any tariff change I believe.
On 9/23/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
My suggestions Alex: a tariff plan should always be published in the media with all charges fully disclosed, and instructions on how to join and exit one, plus how to use it.
The prices should be constant for a reasonable amount of period dictated by inflation and taxation. Users should be adequately compensated and informed well in advance in case of any changes in a tariff plan. Users should therefore not be migrated into or out of a tariff plan without their consent.
On 23/09/2009, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
--<snip>-- "Industry analysts say the number of new tariffs launched in the market could cause consumer confusion and create opportunities for operators to overcharge, saying it was time the industry created an independent organisation to monitor call tariffs.
"CCK appears overwhelmed with monitoring each ofthe very many services introduced to the market under the current 'apply and notify' framework. We proposed such an entity to parliament for consideration last year;' said AlexGakuru, Head of the ICT Consumers Association.
--<snip>-- from <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/659152/-/u72q8tz/-/index.html> and yesterday's <http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/661448/-/u6lok8z/-/index.html> then opposed by Zain
Zain Kenya MD Rene Meza yesterday said "the requirement by telecommunications regulator, CCK, that operators get approval before adjusting their tariffs will dampen competition as it will amount to sharing - sensitive information which a rival may have access to." <Daily Nation>
Above was before publishing of <http://www.cck.go.ke/current_consultations/> (in this case THE KENYA COMMUNICATIONS (TARIFF) REGULATIONS, 2009). Skunkers ought to send to CCK (or give us your comments for inclusion on ours submission) if you really want to make a lasting change. Otherwise, remain complaining forever thereafter decision are made :-(
regards,
Alex
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Job Muriuki <muriukin@gmail.com> wrote:
The way i see it the supa ongea tariff is designed to retain subscribers for long enough until they come up with a more concrete offer. Now they have people convinced they make a saving so more calls are made and the rate remains at 8sh i suggest they come up with a fixed figure and stop lying to devoted safaricom users. I wonder if they are real market leaders and believe they have superior products why not play it clean and prove to us.
On 9/23/09, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, the marketers seem to be having a field day at the expense of the consumers. after its launch, it worked as promised till Friday last week, when it became more theoretical than practical. The tariff is 8 bob from 8 or 9 am to 10 pm where it drops to 7 bob for an hour and then 80 cts. CBS has not send info messages for 3 days, and all this is in a place in ukambani where the number of callers shouldnt be that high. the only other explanation is that their central systems are operating at a> 90% level. Theoretically, it promises you heaven and earth, practically, its a different story
On 18/09/2009, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru@gmail.com> wrote:
@Alex, The urban folk (poor or otherwise) always have to contend with costs associated with anything urban: 1) Electricity 2) Water 3) Food 4) Transport 5) Communications
If you are urban, expect tariffs on the higher side ... I those who live outside Nairobi...Items 1,2,3 and now 5 are, in most cases, way lower...
./bernard
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>wrote:
> The new tariff is good, my reasons:- > > 1) More affordable tariffs (note NOT offers) from any service > provider > are most welcome. > Offers are gratuitous thus consumers are disadvantaged when demanding > rights arising from 'generous' offerings from providers. > > 2) Once tariff is published, provider is deemed to enter into a > contract with the consumers they cannot unilaterally revoke. > > 3) It simply depends on the information available to the > consumer(buyer) before (s)he enters into the communication contract. > Since the rates will be broadcast beforehand, it is my considered > opinion that with full disclosure beforehand the principle of > 'willing > buyer, willing seller' will apply transparently. > > 4) I find this tariff mutually beneficial to consumers and operators. > It optimises use of existing infrastructure and advances “equitable” > principle that we hold dear within Civil Society circles. 'Unequal > treatment of unequals' – in this case rural and urban communication > tariffs and a positive voluntary step towards Universal Access. > > But what would Safaricom be considering for urban poor, high-density > areas, for example, for my friends at Korogocho and Kibera??? > > Regards, > > Alex > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Areba Collins > <arebacollins@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi skunkers, i think michael's response was not copied to the > > group. > > Please find below. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> > > Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 06:18:47 +0300 > > Subject: RE: [Skunkworks] Super Ongea Tariff > > To: Areba Collins <arebacollins@gmail.com> > > > > The tariff is dependent on traffic per site and therefore varies > > every > > hour. There is a complicated algorithm that based on time of day, > > location and traffic sends a message to the IN setting the tariff > > for > > that next hour. There is both a predicted tariff algorithm and one > > based > > on history. > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael > > > > CEO > > Safaricom Limited > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Areba Collins [mailto:arebacollins@gmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 7:49 PM > > To: Skunkworks forum > > Cc: Michael Joseph > > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Super Ongea Tariff > > > > Left me a bit confused myself, but im thinkin its a tarrif that > > charges depending on the number of hops to the recipient's base > > station, so that a local loop costs you less than calling a far > > away > > price. > > Maybe michael (copied) would care to expound. 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