I get paid 60k after tax it's 46k

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Samuel Muiruri <muiruri.samuel@gmail.com> wrote:
Just to be clear when you say 50k it's before or after taxing?

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Jared Koyier via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
​To a large extent Salaries depends on the who is hiring. Most companies have job grades and they will pay according to those grades no matter how good you are. I started at about 30k some 9yrs ago and i believe my first employer still pays that for IT Support. Now go there with your 70k ideal demand and lets see whether they will employ you. ​Later in my career i got a job offer from Gov. bank and the offer was 1/3 of my asking and less than my current salary then. I politely said no. To get specific range, you must be specific on the industry/sector etc. 

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Jared Oyier


On 25 September 2015 at 09:54, Sammy Mutua via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hi
I will say personally a true IT guy should start with 50K if a fresh graduate.However if the job is demanding not just internet browsing,ideal is 70K.
Companies should gauge if they need a frustrated IT guy or outsource the service from a smiling fellow.
No need to employ a professional and frustrate him/her.
Separately IT guys should not behave like the industry is full of desperate fellows just to agree any kind of salary in the name of am WORKING and in the real sense you are SUFFERING.

Mutua





On Thursday, 24 September 2015, 15:54, Evon Wangari via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:


Hi,

I will agree with James. Also it depends on your qualification i.e fresh graduate with already added cert like ccna or ccnp will hv more bargaining power if he had already done some internship in busy organization. Starting can be over 60k or so. Above Average graduate with no added cert from a recognized institution like Moi Uni with Comp science degree can start with 40k or so. Smart person from recognized institution can start with 30k or so. Others i.e Kemu, inorero, and the like can start with any. But my starting was 70k in 2012 and now am doing well though, doing my CCIE Lab in April next yr.

Regards,

Evon

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 3:07 PM, James Mutuma via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
That will all depend with the region! If in Nairobi and in all the Cities in Kenya giving anyone less than Ksh25,000 is slavery! I humiliatively started with Ksh 13,000 some 10 years ago and would barely survive!

My pure recomendation is Ksh 25,000 else the company does not need the IT Support personnel, thats a provision for a grown company. There is no need to employ IT support if you are giving less than that and at some point out-sourcing is cheaper!

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Brian Monyi via skunkworks <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Hey skunks, I'd like to hear your views on how much you think is a reasonable pay for IT support as starting salary.
I'd like to hear your views from a freelancer perspective, employee and employer (or a friend to the guy being hired)
Regards.

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