@Ashok I was just about to say the same thing
@kioko
"Here lies the folly, The Kerne does not exist alone, and has to make sure that it supports the end user , who use hardware made by same firms. If a driver exists, all efforts should be made to include it, even if it does not meet criteria. Such should be so for critical hardware such as networking and display. The other issues should be sorted through lobbying."
You still do not understand. Let me give you a example of VIA chipsets,embeded GPUs and Linux.
Story is, VIA released some chipset & GPU drivers in circa 2008..a good effort but they were buggy as shit! (I used them on a MERCURY motherboard...remember those?)
In early 2009, advances in chipset and GPUs dictated that changes be made to linux & Xorg. nVIDIA ,ATI and intel came thru tho ATI dropped support for some of its older devices BUT VIA FAILED TO PROVIDE FOR TWO YEARS STRAIGHT!
Question is, WAS IT LINUX FAULT? A package maintainer refuses to play ball...should you even consider supporting their older packages ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE BUGGY AND UNSTABLE?
Read more on how Linux drivers are developed then comeback and read your comments on this thread.
"Try working with two apps in Gnome 3, and you will see where the problem is. It assumes that a user wants to use only one app, and refuses to provide a work around for those who need a taskbar for switching to two apps. The UI is nice for touch, but we arent there."
From this statement I have effectively concluded that you do not know how to use GNOME-SHELL.
However..assuming that you knew how to roll with gnome3(-shell) and still claim that it's taking away your freedom as a user, here are some points/questions that highlight what FREEDOM means in linux.
- Did you know that you can still use GNOME3 with a different "shell" e.g Unity and even Gnome2's shell with or without Compiz fusion?
- Did you know that if you don't like any of the Gnome3 shells, you can chose another that provides a totally different desktop experience e.g KDE, XFCE, LXDE, IceWM, Fluxbox, Window Maker and even CDE just to name afew?
- Did you know that if none of the above pleases you, it is dirt simple to take the best components from each and roll your own custom DE??
- Did you know that you can configure yourself a plain desktop and use gnome-pie to launch apps & places?
- Did you know that you can fall back to using the terminal if you do not like any of the above DEs?
- Did you know you don't have to pay a penny for any of the above exept CDE?
And have you realized that you will not get this kind of freedom on OSX? atleast not in the forseable future?
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2011/11/14 Dennis Kioko
<dmbuvi@gmail.com>
Havden't thought of it that way.
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Dennis Kioko
<dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
This I agree, but they do not do it in such a notorious manner as Linux
which will do it every 6 months. At least other OS have a longer release
cyclye and often provide backword compatibility for a number of new
versions.
But why do you upgrade the OS every 6 months ? For e.g. if you use a distro like Ubuntu - they have releases with distinct cycles and goals -- the LTS release (currently 10.04 ) and the regular 6 month cycle release (which is like running debian-testing ....and is really a "beta" ) . If you use a LTS release you upgrade every 18 months - and dont break that easy in upgrades.
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