McD, I assume the point is to petition the regulator on content and timing of the show. This is not necessarily a legal issue. The reason why a regulator for censorship is set up is precisely to steer through such issues. We do not have to talk legal every time a right or moral issue crops up. This is how we never move on such agenda. My point is that the petition should be brought to the attention of the concerned board and action or direction demanded of them! On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Joseph McDonald <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote:
The best way would be to make complaints to the Media Council of Kenya.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Ken, I've pointed about 'Tushauriane' era. Bold just came the other day FYI.
On 03/11/2011, kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
solo, bold n the whatever..was aired after news....i rem ilikuwa wakati wa kulala...unasema nini?
On 11/3/11, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
Back in the day, KBC would air programmes that were then considered immoral well after 10:30 p.m And this included any programme kissing, pecking or even a hug was part of the script. Remember when programes like 'Tahamaki', 'Tushauriane' and the likes were aired? Situations where anything that was 'unAfrican' was not aired. Relate this to Alfred Mutua's 'Cobra Squad'. The reason as to why it's a challenge to control the airwaves is the liberalization in almost all spheres. In a free economy state like Kenya's, it's quit hard to reign in on errant traders, unfortunately. But to restore hope: a) Sign the petition b) Let's wait for Alex Gakuru's Board to tell us what they've so far done.
BTW, I've heard people complain about the Soko Ugali advert. See how people can deviate thir minds geatly?
Regards,
Solomon
On 03/11/2011, maina <dmaishe@gmail.com> wrote:
@Joseph McDonald do you have kid(s)..?
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:31 AM, kennedy kariuki <kkairu@gmail.com> wrote:
close this...plz
On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:09 PM, jamo njoroge <patjayke@gmail.com> wrote:
> This thread should come to a conclusion on what direction to take, we > are > giving them too much air time on the list, we seem to marketing them > even > more... > > On 2 November 2011 18:13, gisho <gichuhie@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Gentlemen, a while ago (like 2009) someone in the govt got pissed of >> by >> the same issues you are addressing here and the station went off-air >> for >> some days. When it came back the topics were more relaxed as they even >> told >> the listeners of the situation. sooner than later, they slept back to >> the >> topics you are now talking about. i think the ministry of IT/ICT (or >> whatever its called) is aware of this but i don't know where they >> stand. >> like oil companies, its hard to kill a 'cash cow' >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Odhiambo Washington >> <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 23:52, Joseph McDonald >>> <mcdonaldoj@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> It is ironical....the parents are the ones calling. >>>> >>> >>> McD, do you have proof that "the parents are the ones calling"?? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> So long as you have a choice there is nothing you can do. >>>> >>> >>> You are suggesting that Kenyans who mind the crap in the show have >>> other choices and should opt for them and do nothing about Classic >>> FM, >>> right?? Just like someone here said "just shift channels"...hmmmm >>> >>> >>>> >>>> You have a choice in the stations,You have a choice in the mode of >>>> transport (you can take a city hopper or boda boda),you have a >>>> choice >>>> to >>>> alight before the mat starts the journey and even alight after the >>>> mat >>>> starts the journey.If you dont exercise these choices then you have >>>> accepted to listen to classic. >>>> >>> >>> McD, for once, I have seen you reason so shallowly that I stopped for >>> a >>> moment to ask myself if you are the same Joseph McDonald that I know. >>> How >>> can you say that? For instance, you believe the kids going to school >>> in >>> the >>> matatus should pose to ask the operators (driver/conductor) whether >>> they >>> are tunes to Classic FM and then decline to board that particular >>> ma-three >>> for another one? >>> You've forgotten who we are trying to protect here - it's mostly the >>> minors. If I were the one in the matatu, I promise you I have the >>> guts >>> to >>> make the driver change station. I cannot just alight. I cannot just >>> do >>> nothing about it. Please try and get a different and better attitude >>> towards this debate. >>> >>> >>>> The fact of the matter is that most marriages are a sham, morality >>>> in >>>> Kenya is at its lowest (so I cant buy that moral theory) ...dont >>>> kill >>>> the >>>> messenger...(In fact Kenyans are more tribal than religious) what >>>> classic >>>> is doing is offering a platform.They dont hold a gun on any one >>>> either >>>> to >>>> call or listen or advertise.Its called freedom of expression. >>>> >>> >>> You have narrowed down on the marriage angle. The show is never about >>> marriage alone and our petition is not just about marriage. >>> For your information, our problem is not about the issues being >>> discussed in the show. It's more about the timing of the show and the >>> audience which it inadvertently reaches - the minors. >>> >>> >>>> Today if we stop Classic, tomorrow what will stop somebody from >>>> saying >>>> a) Waumini FM is indoctrinating our kids with catholic teachings >>>> b) Or Ghetto FM is making our kids fail in Kiswahili because inaleta >>>> brrrrrrcha >>>> >>>> c) or Hope FM is only Christian what about the muslim or hindu etc >>>> d) or lets demolish K-street because there is a lot of immorality >>>> going on there. >>>> d) or petition women not to wear mini skirts because its >>>> "immoral".....we will be sliding back to stone age >>>> >>> >>> McD, please try and stay within the topic and stop your deflections. >>> When it comes to other stations, it will be dealt with at that time. >>> That >>> does not mean I am not thinking out of the box! What we are asking >>> ourselves, rather saying, is that is it proper for Classic to discuss >>> lurid >>> sex details in the morning when even kids are listening? >>> >>> >>>> >>>> For the last 5+ years every morning some one calls in and 20 others >>>> follow with a similar problem, what does that tell you? >>>> >>> >>> It does not tell anything. I don't see how discussing such issues on >>> the airwaves helps to address the problem back where it is. Do you? >>> Have >>> you heard if ever, Maina gave the callers a solution? Did you hear of >>> any >>> caller who called back to thank Classic FM for having solved their >>> issue? >>> >>> >>>> My advice wake up and smell the coffee its a new world order.....and >>>> I >>>> can bet my entire earthly belongings that Classic is here to stay >>>> and >>>> most >>>> of the people complaining are listeners as well in the morning. >>>> >>>> >>> So how did your contribution help in addressing the problem? By >>> telling >>> Kenyans to live with it?? I think this will hit you once your kids >>> get >>> to >>> that age when they can confront you with such topics. If the content >>> of >>> Maina's show is that acceptable, I can say we have no business having >>> bodies/commissions to regulate content. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Odhiambo WASHINGTON, >>> Nairobi,KE >>> +254733744121/+254722743223 >>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ >>> I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler. >>> Please consider the environment before printing this email. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >
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