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Re: [Skunkworks] [Security Forum] #KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Stephen Munguti 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

@lesley, Though I am not clear on how the phones capabilities will come in given that the overlay sim is acting as a bridge between the the first sim card (Lets say the Safaricom SIM) and the phone. On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Lesley Leposo <leposo(a)unoasystems.com> wrote: > Cool Steve. > > Now from a policy and regulation standpoint, the fundamental isssue (by > far) is that…. > > A *proprietary* technology is being deployed by a public utility/service. > > There are always major risks with going “proprietary” vs. > standardized/open/open-source. > > > On Jul 21, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @ fredrick, > > I don't think the issue is with Equitel (given that they have normal sim > cards in use), I think the issue is the thin sim > > @lesley > > noted > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:52 PM, fredrick Wahome <frewah85(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> They would not have prevented thin SIM adoption but they would have >> played some politics using science. For now lets hope that Mwangi is going >> to disrupt this market and deliver us from monopolization. >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Stephen Munguti via Security < >> security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> @lesley, >>> >>> The key issue is the data exchange between the Safaricom SIM card and >>> the phone (this has nothing to do with the Safaricom Servers), bearing in >>> mind that there exists a third party between the Safaricom SIM and the >>> Phone >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Lesley Leposo <leposo(a)unoasystems.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Everyone is griping about the keys (i.e. triplets and session keys >>>> derived from that). >>>> I think someone needs to be very specific about the security threat >>>> involved here and both players aren’t revealing much. >>>> >>>> IMHO, there are at least 3 areas where security threats can emerge: >>>> >>>> 1) Normally EAP-SIM would be used to authenticate the client/phone vs. >>>> the telco server (Safaricom in this case). >>>> The valuable information in this case would be the SIM triplets (and >>>> derived session key). Hence, this baseline EAP-SIM needs to be protected >>>> (Safaricom knows how this is done). >>>> If it isn’t, then we already have a problem that’s not due to thin-siim. >>>> >>>> 2) For the thin-sim, another EAP-SIM negotiation between the >>>> client/phone vs. the overlay sever (Equity in this case). >>>> The valuable information again would be the thin-SIM triplets (and >>>> derived session key). Hence this overlay EAP-SIM needs to be protected in a >>>> manner that Safaricom can’t even see it… this is totally in the domain of >>>> how Equity has designed their network and their provisioning. (e.g. by >>>> encrypted negotiation & tunnelling directly between the client/phone and >>>> the Equity server). >>>> >>>> 3) For the handsets, they would have to make sure that the telco >>>> applications can’t snoop or inject traffic/data into each other’s walled >>>> garden - there are 2 walled gardens in this case. The walled garden >>>> includes the sim triplets (and derived session key) along with each telco >>>> network routes, policies, arp-cache and tcp/ip connections. There exists a >>>> possibility of threats due to backwards incompatibility (with phones that >>>> can’t fully manage these walled gardens). Perhaps this is what Safaricom is >>>> complaining about? >>>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via Security < >>>> security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> > @mwendwa, >>>> > >>>> > Its possible for the owner of the network of the thin sim to be privy >>>> to information that only the host network sim should be having. It all >>>> comes back to someone internal at Equitel having the proper technical >>>> skills and motivation to use the same >>>> >>>> Stephen, >>>> Then we have a major problem right there. I would not like Safaricom to >>>> disown any responsibility on their part when my security is compromised >>>> because I used thin sim. Therefore any security conscious users would not >>>> dare jeopardize their transactions by using thin sim. The question then is, >>>> how many of us care about their transaction security? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < >>>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Then the trending issue of the day. Equitel. Safaricom had taken >>>> Equity to court and sounded a big warning on the use of thin sim. >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-sounds-warning-… >>>> >>> >>>> >>> London-based GSMA, the global association of telecoms operators >>>> using the GSM technology, wrote to the Kenyan authorities warning of the >>>> risks that use of the slim SIM cards pose to the integrity of the mobile >>>> telecommunications platforms.The GSMA said the overlay SIM (which is >>>> embedded between a normal SIM card and the device) has the potential of >>>> harvesting and revealing sensitive data passing the system. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Of course we all know Safaricom failed miserably in stopping Equity >>>> from progressing with its plans. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Now the thin sim is here, and Equitel has said it will encrypt all >>>> data to and from the thin sim. Can experts in this area assure us that the >>>> use of thin sims will not affect the integrity of M-Pesa transactions? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Regards >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> Best Regards, >>>> >> Stephen Munguti. >>>> >> >>>> >> +254720425104 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > Stephen Munguti. >>>> > >>>> > +254720425104 >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Security mailing list >>>> Security(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Stephen Munguti. >>> >>> +254720425104 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Security mailing list >>> Security(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> >> *-------------------------------------* >> *Kind Regards**;* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Fredrick Wahome Ndung'uTeam LeaderSecunets Technologies LtdWebsite: >> www.secunets.com <http://www.secunets.com/>Cell: +254725264890Email: >> fred(a)secunets.com <fred(a)secunets.com>**Facebook: secunetstech* >> *Twitter: @secunets* >> >> *Skype: secunets.technologiesExperts in: *Domain Registration, Web >> Hosting, Open Source Solutions, Information Security & Training, Digital >> Forensic Investigations, Web 2.0 Applications & I.C.T Consultancy. >> >> *"Secure Business Technology"* >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *SECUNETS TECHNOLOGIES DISCLAIMER:* >> >> This email message and any file(s) transmitted with it is intended solely >> for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain >> confidential and/or legally privileged information which confidentiality >> and/or privilege is not lost or waived by reason of mistaken transmission. >> If you have received this message by error you are not authorized to view >> disseminate distribute or copy the message without the written consent of >> Secunets Technologies and are requested to contact the sender by telephone >> or e-mail and destroy the original. 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Re: [Skunkworks] [Security Forum] #KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Stephen Munguti 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

@ fredrick, I don't think the issue is with Equitel (given that they have normal sim cards in use), I think the issue is the thin sim @lesley noted On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:52 PM, fredrick Wahome <frewah85(a)gmail.com> wrote: > They would not have prevented thin SIM adoption but they would have played > some politics using science. For now lets hope that Mwangi is going to > disrupt this market and deliver us from monopolization. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Stephen Munguti via Security < > security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> @lesley, >> >> The key issue is the data exchange between the Safaricom SIM card and the >> phone (this has nothing to do with the Safaricom Servers), bearing in mind >> that there exists a third party between the Safaricom SIM and the Phone >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Lesley Leposo <leposo(a)unoasystems.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Everyone is griping about the keys (i.e. triplets and session keys >>> derived from that). >>> I think someone needs to be very specific about the security threat >>> involved here and both players aren’t revealing much. >>> >>> IMHO, there are at least 3 areas where security threats can emerge: >>> >>> 1) Normally EAP-SIM would be used to authenticate the client/phone vs. >>> the telco server (Safaricom in this case). >>> The valuable information in this case would be the SIM triplets (and >>> derived session key). Hence, this baseline EAP-SIM needs to be protected >>> (Safaricom knows how this is done). >>> If it isn’t, then we already have a problem that’s not due to thin-siim. >>> >>> 2) For the thin-sim, another EAP-SIM negotiation between the >>> client/phone vs. the overlay sever (Equity in this case). >>> The valuable information again would be the thin-SIM triplets (and >>> derived session key). Hence this overlay EAP-SIM needs to be protected in a >>> manner that Safaricom can’t even see it… this is totally in the domain of >>> how Equity has designed their network and their provisioning. (e.g. by >>> encrypted negotiation & tunnelling directly between the client/phone and >>> the Equity server). >>> >>> 3) For the handsets, they would have to make sure that the telco >>> applications can’t snoop or inject traffic/data into each other’s walled >>> garden - there are 2 walled gardens in this case. The walled garden >>> includes the sim triplets (and derived session key) along with each telco >>> network routes, policies, arp-cache and tcp/ip connections. There exists a >>> possibility of threats due to backwards incompatibility (with phones that >>> can’t fully manage these walled gardens). Perhaps this is what Safaricom is >>> complaining about? >>> >>> On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via Security < >>> security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > @mwendwa, >>> > >>> > Its possible for the owner of the network of the thin sim to be privy >>> to information that only the host network sim should be having. It all >>> comes back to someone internal at Equitel having the proper technical >>> skills and motivation to use the same >>> >>> Stephen, >>> Then we have a major problem right there. I would not like Safaricom to >>> disown any responsibility on their part when my security is compromised >>> because I used thin sim. Therefore any security conscious users would not >>> dare jeopardize their transactions by using thin sim. The question then is, >>> how many of us care about their transaction security? >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Then the trending issue of the day. Equitel. Safaricom had taken >>> Equity to court and sounded a big warning on the use of thin sim. >>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-sounds-warning-… >>> >>> >>> >>> London-based GSMA, the global association of telecoms operators >>> using the GSM technology, wrote to the Kenyan authorities warning of the >>> risks that use of the slim SIM cards pose to the integrity of the mobile >>> telecommunications platforms.The GSMA said the overlay SIM (which is >>> embedded between a normal SIM card and the device) has the potential of >>> harvesting and revealing sensitive data passing the system. >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course we all know Safaricom failed miserably in stopping Equity >>> from progressing with its plans. >>> >>> >>> >>> Now the thin sim is here, and Equitel has said it will encrypt all >>> data to and from the thin sim. Can experts in this area assure us that the >>> use of thin sims will not affect the integrity of M-Pesa transactions? >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>> >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> >>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> >>> ------------ >>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>> >> Best Regards, >>> >> Stephen Munguti. >>> >> >>> >> +254720425104 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Best Regards, >>> > Stephen Munguti. >>> > >>> > +254720425104 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Security mailing list >>> Security(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best Regards, >> Stephen Munguti. >> >> +254720425104 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Security mailing list >> Security(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security >> > > > > -- > > > > > *-------------------------------------* > *Kind Regards**;* > > > > > > > > *Fredrick Wahome Ndung'uTeam LeaderSecunets Technologies LtdWebsite: > www.secunets.com <http://www.secunets.com>Cell: +254725264890Email: > fred(a)secunets.com <fred(a)secunets.com>**Facebook: secunetstech* > *Twitter: @secunets* > > *Skype: secunets.technologiesExperts in: *Domain Registration, Web Hosting > , Open Source Solutions, Information Security & Training, Digital > Forensic Investigations, Web 2.0 Applications & I.C.T Consultancy. > > *"Secure Business Technology"* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *SECUNETS TECHNOLOGIES DISCLAIMER:* > > This email message and any file(s) transmitted with it is intended solely > for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged information which confidentiality > and/or privilege is not lost or waived by reason of mistaken transmission. > If you have received this message by error you are not authorized to view > disseminate distribute or copy the message without the written consent of > Secunets Technologies and are requested to contact the sender by telephone > or e-mail and destroy the original. Although Secunets Technologies takes > all reasonable precautions to ensure that this message and any file > transmitted with it is virus free, Secunets Technologies accepts no > liability for any damage that may be caused by any virus transmitted by > this email. > > -- Best Regards, Stephen Munguti. +254720425104

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Re: [Skunkworks] [Security Forum] #KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Mwendwa Kivuva 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

On 21 July 2015 at 15:36, fredrick Wahome via Security < security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > I think with the ample time and resources at Safaricom disposal before > this issue was ruled in Equity favor, from business perspective they would > have demonstrated a POC rather than requesting for GSMA which is made up of > people who can be compromised to give their word. That way many potential > customers would have believed Safcom and shy away. > Even if Safaricom had demonstrated POC, would they have managed to sway the political heavyweights not to support the adoption of thin sim? Me think the decision and ruling was made through the corridors of power rather than through Science. ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya "There are some men who lift the age they inhabit, till all men walk on higher ground in that lifetime." - Maxwell Anderson

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Re: [Skunkworks] [Security Forum] #KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Stephen Munguti 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

@lesley, The key issue is the data exchange between the Safaricom SIM card and the phone (this has nothing to do with the Safaricom Servers), bearing in mind that there exists a third party between the Safaricom SIM and the Phone On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Lesley Leposo <leposo(a)unoasystems.com> wrote: > Everyone is griping about the keys (i.e. triplets and session keys derived > from that). > I think someone needs to be very specific about the security threat > involved here and both players aren’t revealing much. > > IMHO, there are at least 3 areas where security threats can emerge: > > 1) Normally EAP-SIM would be used to authenticate the client/phone vs. the > telco server (Safaricom in this case). > The valuable information in this case would be the SIM triplets (and > derived session key). Hence, this baseline EAP-SIM needs to be protected > (Safaricom knows how this is done). > If it isn’t, then we already have a problem that’s not due to thin-siim. > > 2) For the thin-sim, another EAP-SIM negotiation between the client/phone > vs. the overlay sever (Equity in this case). > The valuable information again would be the thin-SIM triplets (and derived > session key). Hence this overlay EAP-SIM needs to be protected in a manner > that Safaricom can’t even see it… this is totally in the domain of how > Equity has designed their network and their provisioning. (e.g. by > encrypted negotiation & tunnelling directly between the client/phone and > the Equity server). > > 3) For the handsets, they would have to make sure that the telco > applications can’t snoop or inject traffic/data into each other’s walled > garden - there are 2 walled gardens in this case. The walled garden > includes the sim triplets (and derived session key) along with each telco > network routes, policies, arp-cache and tcp/ip connections. There exists a > possibility of threats due to backwards incompatibility (with phones that > can’t fully manage these walled gardens). Perhaps this is what Safaricom is > complaining about? > > On Jul 21, 2015, at 2:20 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via Security < > security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > > > > @mwendwa, > > > > Its possible for the owner of the network of the thin sim to be privy to > information that only the host network sim should be having. It all comes > back to someone internal at Equitel having the proper technical skills and > motivation to use the same > > Stephen, > Then we have a major problem right there. I would not like Safaricom to > disown any responsibility on their part when my security is compromised > because I used thin sim. Therefore any security conscious users would not > dare jeopardize their transactions by using thin sim. The question then is, > how many of us care about their transaction security? > > > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < > skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >>> > >>> Then the trending issue of the day. Equitel. Safaricom had taken > Equity to court and sounded a big warning on the use of thin sim. > http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-sounds-warning-… > >>> > >>> London-based GSMA, the global association of telecoms operators using > the GSM technology, wrote to the Kenyan authorities warning of the risks > that use of the slim SIM cards pose to the integrity of the mobile > telecommunications platforms.The GSMA said the overlay SIM (which is > embedded between a normal SIM card and the device) has the potential of > harvesting and revealing sensitive data passing the system. > >>> > >>> Of course we all know Safaricom failed miserably in stopping Equity > from progressing with its plans. > >>> > >>> Now the thin sim is here, and Equitel has said it will encrypt all > data to and from the thin sim. Can experts in this area assure us that the > use of thin sims will not affect the integrity of M-Pesa transactions? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> skunkworks mailing list > >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> ------------ > >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> ------------ > >>> > >>> Skunkworks Rules > >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> ------------ > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Best Regards, > >> Stephen Munguti. > >> > >> +254720425104 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Best Regards, > > Stephen Munguti. > > > > +254720425104 > _______________________________________________ > Security mailing list > Security(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security > > > -- Best Regards, Stephen Munguti. +254720425104

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Re: [Skunkworks] [Security Forum] #KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Stephen Munguti 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

@fredrick, GSM is intentionally flawed in the core to allow for LI (lawful interceptions). The thin sim from my movie knowledge is used to avoid LI and still intercept information assuming that the person in question has connections in the provider network that would inform him that his phone has been LIed On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:17 PM, fredrick Wahome <frewah85(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hehe..based on the fact that the paradigm is shifting from internet of > things to internet of everything the cyber threat is basically on > everything that we consume as digital consumers. With most of embedded > systems having hard-coded backdoors which developers know of but "pray" no > one knows, its clear that very soon we might give in to the risks. > The I.P and GSM being flawed on the core but we continue using them. > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:07 PM, Stephen Munguti <kamitu.sm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> @Fredrick, >> >> The US intelligence is able to tap mobile phones in this manner, or so I >> heard. I am thinking that's were the technology first appeared. This may be >> as a result of watching too many movies >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:00 PM, fredrick Wahome <frewah85(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> As a potential end user I would be skeptical to move to equitel purely >>> based on noises from media. As a technical user I would wait for a proof of >>> concept of the said risk... >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via Security < >>> security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>>> > @mwendwa, >>>> > >>>> > Its possible for the owner of the network of the thin sim to be privy >>>> to information that only the host network sim should be having. It all >>>> comes back to someone internal at Equitel having the proper technical >>>> skills and motivation to use the same >>>> >>>> Stephen, >>>> Then we have a major problem right there. I would not like Safaricom to >>>> disown any responsibility on their part when my security is compromised >>>> because I used thin sim. Therefore any security conscious users would not >>>> dare jeopardize their transactions by using thin sim. The question then is, >>>> how many of us care about their transaction security? >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < >>>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Then the trending issue of the day. Equitel. Safaricom had taken >>>> Equity to court and sounded a big warning on the use of thin sim. >>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-sounds-warning-… >>>> >>> >>>> >>> London-based GSMA, the global association of telecoms operators >>>> using the GSM technology, wrote to the Kenyan authorities warning of the >>>> risks that use of the slim SIM cards pose to the integrity of the mobile >>>> telecommunications platforms.The GSMA said the overlay SIM (which is >>>> embedded between a normal SIM card and the device) has the potential of >>>> harvesting and revealing sensitive data passing the system. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Of course we all know Safaricom failed miserably in stopping Equity >>>> from progressing with its plans. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Now the thin sim is here, and Equitel has said it will encrypt all >>>> data to and from the thin sim. Can experts in this area assure us that the >>>> use of thin sims will not affect the integrity of M-Pesa transactions? >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Regards >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> skunkworks mailing list >>>> >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >>>> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> >>> ------------ >>>> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -- >>>> >> >>>> >> Best Regards, >>>> >> Stephen Munguti. >>>> >> >>>> >> +254720425104 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > >>>> > Best Regards, >>>> > Stephen Munguti. >>>> > >>>> > +254720425104 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Security mailing list >>>> Security(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *-------------------------------------* >>> *Kind Regards**;* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Fredrick Wahome Ndung'uTeam LeaderSecunets Technologies LtdWebsite: >>> www.secunets.com <http://www.secunets.com>Cell: +254725264890 >>> <%2B254725264890>Email: fred(a)secunets.com <fred(a)secunets.com>**Facebook: >>> secunetstech* >>> *Twitter: @secunets* >>> >>> *Skype: secunets.technologiesExperts in: *Domain Registration, Web >>> Hosting, Open Source Solutions, Information Security & Training, Digital >>> Forensic Investigations, Web 2.0 Applications & I.C.T Consultancy. >>> >>> *"Secure Business Technology"* >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *SECUNETS TECHNOLOGIES DISCLAIMER:* >>> >>> This email message and any file(s) transmitted with it is intended >>> solely for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain >>> confidential and/or legally privileged information which confidentiality >>> and/or privilege is not lost or waived by reason of mistaken transmission. >>> If you have received this message by error you are not authorized to view >>> disseminate distribute or copy the message without the written consent of >>> Secunets Technologies and are requested to contact the sender by telephone >>> or e-mail and destroy the original. Although Secunets Technologies takes >>> all reasonable precautions to ensure that this message and any file >>> transmitted with it is virus free, Secunets Technologies accepts no >>> liability for any damage that may be caused by any virus transmitted by >>> this email. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Best Regards, >> Stephen Munguti. >> >> +254720425104 >> > > > > -- > > > > > *-------------------------------------* > *Kind Regards**;* > > > > > > > > *Fredrick Wahome Ndung'uTeam LeaderSecunets Technologies LtdWebsite: > www.secunets.com <http://www.secunets.com>Cell: +254725264890Email: > fred(a)secunets.com <fred(a)secunets.com>**Facebook: secunetstech* > *Twitter: @secunets* > > *Skype: secunets.technologiesExperts in: *Domain Registration, Web Hosting > , Open Source Solutions, Information Security & Training, Digital > Forensic Investigations, Web 2.0 Applications & I.C.T Consultancy. > > *"Secure Business Technology"* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *SECUNETS TECHNOLOGIES DISCLAIMER:* > > This email message and any file(s) transmitted with it is intended solely > for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged information which confidentiality > and/or privilege is not lost or waived by reason of mistaken transmission. > If you have received this message by error you are not authorized to view > disseminate distribute or copy the message without the written consent of > Secunets Technologies and are requested to contact the sender by telephone > or e-mail and destroy the original. Although Secunets Technologies takes > all reasonable precautions to ensure that this message and any file > transmitted with it is virus free, Secunets Technologies accepts no > liability for any damage that may be caused by any virus transmitted by > this email. > > -- Best Regards, Stephen Munguti. +254720425104

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Request for Quotation for Server and Zimbra Mail Server
by James Kagwe 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

Skunks, I need someone to quickly supply a server and setup Zimbra as per the attached specifications. Kindly send me a quote directly to this address. I will revert to the competitive quote with further details. For ease of system implementation, I would prefer that both are supplied by the same vendor. Kindly pay attention to the server and Zimbra specifications including license requirements. regards, James Kagwe

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Re: [Skunkworks] [Security Forum] #KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Stephen Munguti 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

@Fredrick, The US intelligence is able to tap mobile phones in this manner, or so I heard. I am thinking that's were the technology first appeared. This may be as a result of watching too many movies On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 3:00 PM, fredrick Wahome <frewah85(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As a potential end user I would be skeptical to move to equitel purely > based on noises from media. As a technical user I would wait for a proof of > concept of the said risk... > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via Security < > security(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > >> > @mwendwa, >> > >> > Its possible for the owner of the network of the thin sim to be privy >> to information that only the host network sim should be having. It all >> comes back to someone internal at Equitel having the proper technical >> skills and motivation to use the same >> >> Stephen, >> Then we have a major problem right there. I would not like Safaricom to >> disown any responsibility on their part when my security is compromised >> because I used thin sim. Therefore any security conscious users would not >> dare jeopardize their transactions by using thin sim. The question then is, >> how many of us care about their transaction security? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Mwendwa Kivuva via skunkworks < >> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Then the trending issue of the day. Equitel. Safaricom had taken >> Equity to court and sounded a big warning on the use of thin sim. >> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Safaricom-sounds-warning-… >> >>> >> >>> London-based GSMA, the global association of telecoms operators using >> the GSM technology, wrote to the Kenyan authorities warning of the risks >> that use of the slim SIM cards pose to the integrity of the mobile >> telecommunications platforms.The GSMA said the overlay SIM (which is >> embedded between a normal SIM card and the device) has the potential of >> harvesting and revealing sensitive data passing the system. >> >>> >> >>> Of course we all know Safaricom failed miserably in stopping Equity >> from progressing with its plans. >> >>> >> >>> Now the thin sim is here, and Equitel has said it will encrypt all >> data to and from the thin sim. Can experts in this area assure us that the >> use of thin sims will not affect the integrity of M-Pesa transactions? >> >>> >> >>> Regards >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> skunkworks mailing list >> >>> skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> >>> ------------ >> >>> List info, subscribe/unsubscribe >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >>> ------------ >> >>> >> >>> Skunkworks Rules >> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >>> ------------ >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Stephen Munguti. >> >> >> >> +254720425104 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Best Regards, >> > Stephen Munguti. >> > >> > +254720425104 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Security mailing list >> Security(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/security >> > > > > -- > > > > > *-------------------------------------* > *Kind Regards**;* > > > > > > > > *Fredrick Wahome Ndung'uTeam LeaderSecunets Technologies LtdWebsite: > www.secunets.com <http://www.secunets.com>Cell: +254725264890Email: > fred(a)secunets.com <fred(a)secunets.com>**Facebook: secunetstech* > *Twitter: @secunets* > > *Skype: secunets.technologiesExperts in: *Domain Registration, Web Hosting > , Open Source Solutions, Information Security & Training, Digital > Forensic Investigations, Web 2.0 Applications & I.C.T Consultancy. > > *"Secure Business Technology"* > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *SECUNETS TECHNOLOGIES DISCLAIMER:* > > This email message and any file(s) transmitted with it is intended solely > for the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain > confidential and/or legally privileged information which confidentiality > and/or privilege is not lost or waived by reason of mistaken transmission. > If you have received this message by error you are not authorized to view > disseminate distribute or copy the message without the written consent of > Secunets Technologies and are requested to contact the sender by telephone > or e-mail and destroy the original. Although Secunets Technologies takes > all reasonable precautions to ensure that this message and any file > transmitted with it is virus free, Secunets Technologies accepts no > liability for any damage that may be caused by any virus transmitted by > this email. > > -- Best Regards, Stephen Munguti. +254720425104

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#KeIGF15 Online Discussions Day Two: Cyber Security and Trust
by Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

Dear Listers, Kenya has had its fair share of high profile cyber threats, hacking etc, the latest being the alleged compromise of the IFMIS system at NYS/Ministry of Devolution. The country and Africa at large is making efforts to assure cyber-security. These include among others her involvement in the Africa Union Convention on Cybercrime and a proposal for a Cybercrime law, an initiative led by the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions. Significant financial resources have also been earmarked by government for security and cyber security in particular. There are also partnerships between government and private sector in deploying cybersecurity centres. The private sector has employed practical measures to protect their businesses. However, businesses such as mobile money providers and banks have been shy to divulge their cyber security concerns to protect their interests. Civil society on the other hand has raised concern about the line between protecting the cyber space and creating a facilitative environment for innovators as well as protecting the rights of users. Are our efforts at deterring cyber-crime the correct way to assure cyber security? Are fears about a partnership between government and private sector and the general fears about stifling innovation and human rights in the name of cybersecurity legitimate? Are there other practical approaches that different stakeholders can take to enhance cyber security? Over to you. -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu <http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu>

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Business Development Managers -Opening at iWayAfrica
by Joe Njogu 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

Hi Guys, My client iWayAfrica is looking for BDMs, in case you know somebody whom might be interested, kindly ask them to send his/her CV to jnjogu(a)iwayafrica.net Preferred Qualifications and Skills Set 1. 5 Years experience in business development within ICT/ISP industry 2. Passion in selling 3. Bachelors degree in ICT/Marketing/Business Administration 4. A creative and innovative mind Best Regards, Joe Njogu

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Vacancy- Network Engineer- Mogadishu
by Melville Wekesa 21 Jul '15

21 Jul '15

Hello Skunks, An acquaintance of mine is looking for a skilled Network engineer to fill this role. Position: Network Engineer Location: Mogadishu Industry: Banking Pay: Competitive Housing and Security provided. If interested, forward me your CV and I will do the rest. Regards, -- "If the disciple is the same as the master, the value of the master decreases by half. The disciple shows his gratitude to the master by transcending him." - Hekiganroku

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