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Re: [Skunkworks] Josiah weds Rael
by J. N. Kimani 25 May '09

25 May '09

I thought I should revive this thread because I realize Josiah has been contributing a lot lately (and therefore working). Deuteronomy 24:5 - When a man has taken a new wife, he shall not go out to war or be charged with any business; he shall be free at home one year, and bring happiness to his wife whom he has taken. -- J. N. Kimani 2009/4/8 Edwin Wambua <eddwak(a)gmail.com> > And may you be blessed with wonderful little Skunklets. > > _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Josiah Mugambi >> +254 738 504418 >> >> http://blog.josiahmugambi.com >> >> SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> > > > -- > We are all inventors, each sailing out on a voyage of discovery, guided > each by a private chart, of which there is no duplicate. The world is all > gates, all opportunities. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >

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Re: [Skunkworks] Software Story
by Oj G 25 May '09

25 May '09

Lawi good idea... My small idea, start us off with a little story board...and because it's a story everyone free to speak their language. I guess by the end of it there will be a new story and new language...say phC the optimist sees the doughnut; the pessimist the hole. --- On Sun, 5/24/09, Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Mr. Lawi <mail2lawi(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Software Story To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Date: Sunday, May 24, 2009, 11:38 PM Looks interesting. You could start us off... Though judging by the response (or lack of it) things dont look good. On 5/23/09, Tech List Kenya <techlistkenya(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, > > I have heard of 'story games' which are games in which a story is told > by the participants. Basically, one person begins the story, eg, 'I > was walking down Migingo when last week...' then the next in line tops > up the story, and so forth. > > Now, I was wondering, could we have a software story as well? The > first thread gives the initial code and successive threads build onto > it. Any lang - php, asp.net, java, etc. You never know what can be > built out of it! > > The difference between this and a collabo project is that this has no > defined end product. > Any one interested? > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

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Undersea Fiber Pricing
by David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd 25 May '09

25 May '09

I am attending a conference in Uganda where both Seacom and WOICC (EASSY) have made presentations and based on my new found understanding would like to shed light of pricing per MB which has generated both Heat and Light on this forum. One option available for operators is IRU (Irrefutable right of Use) which will run for 20 years. This means that an operator will purchase the right to use STM-1 (155mbps) which will be the lowest unit of sale for whatever purpose they want. Seacom will sell an STM-1 IRU for $3.5M WOICC (EASSY) will be selling the same IRU for $2.5M. This translates to per MB cost of US$ 94 per MB (SEACOM) and US$67 (EASSY). End-users pricing maybe higher and contention ratios will enable the same providers recover their investment. Should an operator purchase higher capacity say STM-4 the IRU unit price will lower. Hope this helps someone. Rgds Kiania D. -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon

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black = dumb?
by Christopher Kiagiri 25 May '09

25 May '09

The new kid on the block offers up an interesting list of synonyms for the word "dumb" http://www70.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=dumb

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HP Pavillion Dv 6000 Laptop for SALE
by Theus Owicho 25 May '09

25 May '09

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In defense of AFSAT
by David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd 25 May '09

25 May '09

According to Salim Suleman, CEO of AFSAT, submarine fiber will have no effect on their business and he doesn't expect the price per MB to go below US$2,000. Well I know you are supposed to defend your territory but it seems absurd when you are in blatunt disregard of reality. In an interview on CNBC, AFSAT will continue to see growth in their number of installations and will remain relevant to carry traffic in and out. I have heard this storyline from a number of VSAT operators, are they for real? Why would any customer opt for 900ms connection at US$ 2,000 when an alternative at 100ms is available at US$ 200 or less? Could they wake up and smell the bandwith. Kiania D. -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon

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Software Story
by Tech List Kenya 25 May '09

25 May '09

Hi guys, I have heard of 'story games' which are games in which a story is told by the participants. Basically, one person begins the story, eg, 'I was walking down Migingo when last week...' then the next in line tops up the story, and so forth. Now, I was wondering, could we have a software story as well? The first thread gives the initial code and successive threads build onto it. Any lang - php, asp.net, java, etc. You never know what can be built out of it! The difference between this and a collabo project is that this has no defined end product. Any one interested? -- Sent from my mobile device

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Re: [Skunkworks] Mpesa and online payments
by jnjogu＠gmail.com 25 May '09

25 May '09

Just read from slashdot that hackers use nokia 1100 to mimic ones phone number and recieve their calls, smses plus other security detail so people who use mpesa like a bank account be warned. Its not long before this technology gets here. _____________________________ Sent from my phone using Flurrymail - Get free mobile email and news at: http://www.flurrymail.com --- Original Message --- Date: Thu May 21 06:38:06 PDT 2009 From: Okechukwu <okechukwu(a)gmail.com> To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Mpesa and online payments --- I read it now and it is - am just not sure whether I should apologise or not, since its also so much in context, but I agree, should have put it better. ./Ok3ch On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Ok3ch, the last para of your mail... is an ouch! to David and the researcher. > > On 20/05/2009, Okechukwu <okechukwu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > My point is and always has been, it is blutant wrong to reverse a > > transaction without reference to both the initiator and the receiver, > whether the transaction was leggit ot not. The best the CS can do is simple > > call up the other party and have some > > authentication/authorization/informational. If I transact to 0720 yeat I > meant 0722, then let 0720 know that I am reversing, its not about asking > 0720 for permission to reverse, but just inform them, so that if am being > malicious in my referral, then it can come out. > > @david, for your research analyst, thank him for telling us what we know. > ./Ok3ch > > > > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:55 AM, David Mugo <raidarmax(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Hey... > >> > >> By the way guys, this is Kenya. You have to find your way on every little > >> thing. I have been failed so much that I cant ever rely on any customer >> service of the multinational companies in Kenya, beginning with Orange, >> whose internet service i use. Anyway, for anyone interested, I developed a > >> system that automatically does online transactions for MPESA payments, >> email > >> me for details. > >> > >> David. > >> > >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Solomon Mburu > >> <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> > >>> Quiet informative. How well will a rural or ignorant folk understand >>> all these? The reversal process, in my opinion, should be easy and >>> accomodative for even the illiterate to grasp with ease. I only see an >>> educated and quick witted person benefitting in the reversal > >>> transaction. > >>> > >>> On 20/05/2009, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > I forwarded him your issues and heres is the reply. He is a research >>> > analyst, and his work is to research on new products and to get >>> > feedback > >>> of > >>> > existing products and services. > >>> > > >>> > Dennis, > >>> > First, I must say that I am not official spokesman on this matter but I > >>> will > >>> > try to answer based on my experience/interaction with M-PESA (I am a >>> heavy > >>> > consumer of this product) > >>> > > >>> > If you send money to a wrong number (say 0710222222 when you were meant > >>> to > >>> > send it to 0720222222), the customer care will examine the transaction, > >>> ask > >>> > you a few questions and then reverse the transaction without having to > >>> talk > >>> > to 0710222222. In any case, the MSG displayed will show owner's name. >>> So, > >>> > they will compare your the two nos and determine if your claim is >>> actually > >>> > true. > >>> > > >>> > If you intended to withdraw but missed a certain digit in the agent ID, > >>> say > >>> > if you wanted to withdraw in outlet 08102 (assume Uchumi Ngong Rd) but > >>> get a > >>> > message telling you to collect your cash in Greenlight Meru, that is >>> > the > >>> > same information you will give Customer care representative. Chances >>> are, > >>> > Greenlight Meru will have number which bears a striking similarity to >>> that > >>> > of Uchumi Ngong Rd e.g. 08210, 08201 etc. Customer care representative > >>> will > >>> > get in touch with Greenlight Meru and if indeed they claim you took the > >>> > money, they will be expected to read out your ID NO (since you should >>> always > >>> > present original ID during any transaction). Mostly, they will not >>> > guess > >>> it > >>> > right and therefore the money will be reversed. If indeed you wanted to > >>> play > >>> > tricks, they will be able to say your number right and therefore you >>> wont > >>> > get the money > >>> > > >>> > The rule is, whoever requests for a reversal MUST demonstrate it was >>> truly > >>> > an erroneous transaction before customer care representative can either > >>> talk > >>> > to the other person or take any action. Mostly, CCR will ask many >>> question > >>> > but this is intended to ensure they get the right infor before taking >>> the > >>> > next course of action > >>> > > >>> > Any action taken, the system records the CCR who did that and therefore > >>> they > >>> > dont joke around with this. > >>> > > >>> > We have studied this product and I can assure you as at now, it is >>> extremely > >>> > secure - besides, there is a dedicated fraud team that is continously >>> > studying all the tricks crooks can use and thereby sealing them. >>> > > >>> > Please call me for more information. > >>> > > >>> > Regards- > >>> > > >>> > 2009/5/19 Solomon Mburu <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> > >>> > > >>> >> @ Dennis, H{Sh}e is employed to give good news to the consumers even >>> >> if it is a lie. How many times has one called customer care of any of > >>> >> our telcos, to be told the matter you are calling about will be >>> >> attended in a couple of minutes only to call again and be told it has > >>> >> not been addressed yet. Ask exhaustively before pointing an accussing > >>> >> finger. Alternatively, give us his email and we shall ask him a >>> >> million questions! > >>> >> > >>> >> On 19/05/2009, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> > I apologize. I thought that the fact came from a safaricom official > >>> was > >>> >> > evidence enough. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > On 19/05/2009, Okechukwu <okechukwu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> @Dennis, you should have enquired more before saying we make things > >>> up, > >>> >> >> coz > >>> >> >> its happened before. > >>> >> >> ./Ok3ch > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >>> Ok, I will inquire more on that. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> 2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax(a)gmail.com> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>>> Guys, > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> yes, someone sent me cash, it was in my balance and after a while > >>> we > >>> >> >>>> agreed he should reverse, he did, got his cash back but there was > >>> >> >>>> nothing on > >>> >> >>>> my side....no notification or any confirmation, just that my >>> balance > >>> >> was > >>> >> >>>> less. > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> David. > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> > >>> >> wrote: > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>>> so you saying that you received money and it was reversed >>> >> >>>>> without > >>> >> >>>>> you > >>> >> >>>>> been contacted? > >>> >> >>>>> 2009/5/19 David Mugo <raidarmax(a)gmail.com> > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> Hi, > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> Actually this is not true. I have had someone do a reversal >>> >> >>>>>> that > >>> i > >>> >> >>>>>> knew > >>> >> >>>>>> of but no safaricom contacted me. It was only that I was aware > >>> of > >>> >> it. > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> David. > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Dennis Kioko < dmbuvi(a)gmail.com > >>> >> >wrote: > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> I talked to a Safaricom Official about this issue, and he >>> assured > >>> >> me > >>> >> >>>>>>> that both parties are contacted before any reversal is made. >>> >> >>>>>>> so > >>> >> >>>>>>> you > >>> >> >>>>>>> guys > >>> >> >>>>>>> have just been making up stories and allibis! > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> 2009/5/18 Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>>> did you say Zain already got an API? > >>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>>> -- > >>> >> >>>>>>>> Bored? Stop been Bored. why are u still Bored? visit my blog > >>> >> >>>>>>>> http://gramware.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>>>>>>> Get your free issue of tekniaonline, a Kenyan ICT magazine at > >>> >> >>>>>>>> http://tekniaonline.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> -- > >>> >> >>>>>>> Bored? Stop been Bored. why are u still Bored? visit my blog >>> >> >>>>>>> http://gramware.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>>>>>> Get your free issue of tekniaonline, a Kenyan ICT magazine at > >>> >> >>>>>>> http://tekniaonline.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> >>>>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>>>>> Other lists > >>> >> >>>>>>> ------------- > >>> >> >>>>>>> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> >> >>>>>>> Science - > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>> >> >>>>>>> kazi - > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> -- > >>> >> >>>>>> Got any life problems? visit www.dearkenya.com > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> >>>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>>>> Other lists > >>> >> >>>>>> ------------- > >>> >> >>>>>> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> >> >>>>>> Science - > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>> >> >>>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>>> > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>>> -- > >>> >> >>>>> Bored? Stop been Bored. why are u still Bored? visit my blog >>> >> >>>>> http://gramware.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>>>> Get your free issue of tekniaonline, a Kenyan ICT magazine at >>> >> >>>>> http://tekniaonline.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> >>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>>> Other lists > >>> >> >>>>> ------------- > >>> >> >>>>> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> >> >>>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>> >> >>>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> -- > >>> >> >>>> Got any life problems? visit www.dearkenya.com > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> >>>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> >>>> Other lists > >>> >> >>>> ------------- > >>> >> >>>> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> >>>> > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> >> >>>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>> >> >>>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> -- > >>> >> >>> Bored? Stop been Bored. why are u still Bored? visit my blog >>> >> >>> http://gramware.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>> Get your free issue of tekniaonline, a Kenyan ICT magazine at >>> >> >>> http://tekniaonline.blogspot.com > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> >>> Other lists > >>> >> >>> ------------- > >>> >> >>> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >>> >> >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >>> >> >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> >> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> >> Other lists > >>> >> >> ------------- > >>> >> >> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > >>> >> >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> >> >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > -- > >>> >> > Bored? Stop been Bored. why are u still Bored? visit my blog >>> >> > http://gramware.blogspot.com > >>> >> > Get your free issue of tekniaonline, a Kenyan ICT magazine at >>> >> > http://tekniaonline.blogspot.com > >>> >> > > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -- > >>> >> Solomon Mburu > >>> >> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > >>> >> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > >>> >> > >>> >> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > >>> >> the same way to the side of a hill! > >>> >> > >>> >> AND > >>> >> > >>> >> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >>> >> generosity! > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > >>> >> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> >> Other lists > >>> >> ------------- > >>> >> Skunkworks announce: > >>> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > Have your view/take on the nightmare that is Nairobi traffic on my >>> > blog, > >>> > http://gramware.blogspot.com in a comical/satirical take! > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Solomon Mburu > >>> P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > >>> Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > >>> > >>> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all >>> the same way to the side of a hill! > >>> > >>> AND > >>> > >>> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous >>> generosity! > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> Other lists > >>> ------------- > >>> Skunkworks announce: > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >>> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >>> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Got any life problems? visit www.dearkenya.com > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> Other lists > >> ------------- > >> Skunkworks announce: > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > >> kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > >> > >> > > > > -- > Solomon Mburu > P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi > Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 > > Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! > > AND > > It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

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Re: [Skunkworks] Spring DI and OOP inheritance:
by wesley kiriinya 25 May '09

25 May '09

Another solution: You don't have to make the setters and getters private (i.e. setCustomerDao, getCustomer because the references they return are also private). Therefore the s/getters would be either protected or public allowing you to do the spring wiring as follows: <bean id="customerServiceImpl" class="ke.co.x.x.CustomerServiceImpl"> <property name="customerDao" ref="customerDao"/> </bean> --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Duggan Kim <mdkimani(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Duggan Kim <mdkimani(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Spring DI and OOP inheritance: To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 10:09 AM Found Solution: The problem with my code is that the subclasses did not have a constructor making a call to super(). Turns out this was necessary to init the superclass, although it is usually left out in spring applications: public subclass(){ super(); } On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Frankline Chitwa <frank.chitwa(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, did you test if setCustoHi gmerDAO() actually sets your customerDao first before trying to get it? On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Ashok Hariharan <ashok(a)parliaments.info> wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Duggan Kim <mdkimani(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Every other dependency is taken care of in Spring's > applicationContext.xml config file in a similar manner. > > When tested using JUnit or on the browser, a NullPointerException is > thrown at (2). The DAO > defined in the superclass is null in the subclass. This raises the > question whether Spring's DI supports normal Java class inheritance > and if it does, is there any special config required for this? I am not so familiar with spring as such... but dependency injection frameworks require interfaces for both implementing classes *and* properties .... is the customerDAO object based on an interface ? ashok _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Skunkworks announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi - http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

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Spring DI and OOP inheritance:
by Duggan Kim 25 May '09

25 May '09

Hi all, I have a problem with Spring dependency injection. The scenario is as follows: I have a number of Data Access Objects (DAOs), Service Classes, and Web Layer Controllers. Data exchange between the different layers takes place via Sping DI. Injecting a DAO directly to my Controllers works fine but this brings in design issues. So I have included the Service layer that undertakes additional business logic before sending the data to the DAOs. The implementation of the service layer includes a base service class inherited by other classes: i.e: public class ServiceImpl implements Service{ (1)protected Dao<Customer, String> customerDao private void setCustomerDao(Dao<Customer, String> customerDao){ this.customerDao = customerDao; } ............ ............. ...... } public class CustomerServiceImpl extends ServiceImpl implements CustomerService{ private void getCustomer(String customerId){ (2) customerDao.getCustomerById(customerId); } ......................... .......................... ........................ } The customerDao in ServiceImpl injected by Spring as follows <bean id="serviceImpl" class="ke.co.x.x.ServiceImpl"> <property name="customerDao" ref="customerDao"/> </bean> <bean id="customerServiceImpl" class="ke.co.x.x.CustomerServiceImpl"> </bean> Every other dependency is taken care of in Spring's applicationContext.xml config file in a similar manner. When tested using JUnit or on the browser, a NullPointerException is thrown at (2). The DAO defined in the superclass is null in the subclass. This raises the question whether Spring's DI supports normal Java class inheritance and if it does, is there any special config required for this?

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Personalising a News Site
by Theus Owicho 25 May '09

25 May '09

Skunkers I am looking to buy the interspire.com CMS or vivvo.net CMS and wants someone to make for me a news site which is more comprehensive. Can you guys give me the rates you would charge me offlist for the job. I need the news site ASAP T

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online customer sales and support centre operational
by aki 25 May '09

25 May '09

not marketing.... completed centre. check it out at www.chekelea.com , click on support centre and follow link. Live to be operational very soon. At the moment, only setup sales department but can setup support, engineering, watch, internal tracking etc. Site will provide any new annoncements and knowledgebase. Please feel free to test for next 2 days and some feedback would be appreciated. :-) Cheers. Rgds.

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What is the most important Linux security technology?
by Steve 25 May '09

25 May '09

when setting up your server with linux what would you deploy for security? iptables, SE linux or bastille.

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Home internet solution
by Simon Mbuthia 25 May '09

25 May '09

Hi guys, I have an iBurst wireless modem from Afol at home and would like to share my connection between a laptop and a desktop. I was thinking of acquiring an integrated router which would be my home AP, connect the iBurst terminal to it, and use a straight through cable to connect the PC to the ISR and let the laptop connect via Wi-Fi. Is this possible? If so, which ISR would be appropriate? Thanks in advance, Me. -- שִׁמְעוֹן

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Podcasting Skunkwork Meetings (and anything else)
by Josiah Mugambi 25 May '09

25 May '09

I was walking around downtown looking at music/sound equipment for other purposes and came across a podcasting kit that's going for 11k (USB interface) or 15k (Firewire interface). Perhaps this could be useful...? The actual systems are: http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/Packaged_Systems/Recording_Packages/ -- Josiah Mugambi +254 738 504418 http://blog.josiahmugambi.com SK Classifeds... Visit stockskenya.co.ke for more info.

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Used Toshiba Satellite Notebook 1300 series for sale
by Dennis Kioko 25 May '09

25 May '09

A friend is selling a used notebook, Toshiba Satellite 1300 series, with the following specs: - AMD turion 64 1.8 (dual core) - 250 GB HDD - 3 GB RAM - 14 inch TFT LCD - DVD RW lightscribe - illuminated keyboard - 2 X USB - Wifi/Bluetooth - line in/microphone/audio out - in built speakers - ATI Radeon Price is Kshs. 55,000/= contact him on 0725 743500/020 240 7390. -- Read about how other countries are outdoing Kenyans when it comes to milking the taxpayer. all this and more at my blog: http://gramware.blogspot.com

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Kenya to host first open source software awards
by Gakuru Alex 24 May '09

24 May '09

/FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wednesday, 27 May, 2009 Venue:Panafric Hotel, Nairobi Time: Media briefing 12:00 noon - 12:30 pm Nominees and invited guests arrive at 12:30 pm Registrations desk to open at 2:00 pm Guests should be seated by 2:20 pm Open Awards Ceremony 2:30 - 5:00 pm Entry: Free Seat Reservations: email opensourceawards(a)lpakenya.org ( cc' gakuru(a)gmail.com) You are most welcome. The event continues to draw increasing international attention... Alex Gakuru ICT Consumers Association of Kenya ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Tectonic » Kenya to host first open source software awards May 20, 2009 ... The Linux Professional Association of Kenya and ICT Consumers Association of Kenya will be hosting Kenya's first-ever open source awards at ... <http://www.tectonic.co.za/?p=4796> ________________________________ This as-it-happens Google Alert is brought to you by Google. _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers

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Window 7 RC!!
by James Wachira 24 May '09

24 May '09

Hi guys, anyone with a copy of the RC?Would love to try it out. James W -- I believe,

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A safaricom experience
by Mbugua Njihia 24 May '09

24 May '09

Today morning, I send a text only for the 3 notorious responses from Safaricom saying insufficient credit. A quick *144# reveals that the credit is sufficient to call 20 people sembuse text. How could this happen? Ps. I am looking for technical suggestions in as much as having the experience sucked

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laptop price
by Michael Omondi 23 May '09

23 May '09

Who knows where i can get a laptop with the specs below, How much can you get me this laptop dell latitude d630 or higher blue tooth serial port (very important ) 4 usb ports or more carry case dvs rw wifi 15.4" screen tru brite xp sp2 or sp3 intel core 2duo 1.8 ghz or higher 160gb hdd 1gb ram Thanks in advance

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Important:- Common Crimes in Urban Areas
by ndungu stephen 23 May '09

23 May '09

Hallo - please read the attached pdf carefully - it may save your money and your life. This has affected lots of people in your life - read carefully and spread. w/r Stephen N.

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Kenya Data Networks
by Odhiambo ワシントン 23 May '09

23 May '09

Hello Skunk*s Is there anyone on this forum who can say they are happy with KDN? >From my dealings with this company, I fear that something is not quite right. Actually, if KDN is surviving in the Kenyan market, then any company can! What with the absence of any semblance of Customer Service? Or is it just me who is not quite lucky with them? What is your general view of KDNs service delivery? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society." -- Mark Twain

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And while Orange announced its One million customer.....
by aki 23 May '09

23 May '09

their grps has been google only service for the 3rd day running. I wish they would make some announcement to say when services will be fully restored. Good Luck Orange.. :-) Which brings me to this question about GENERAL networks and operators : Is it the equipment or people running them? Is it shortcuts in implementation? Is it corporate sabotage by competitors or staff? Is it that we cannot sustain network reliability? what excatly is the problem? >From experience of setting up systems a few year back, we ran an intensive FreeBSD system on a network for almost 2 years without a single outage. I just dont get it. I think telecommuncation systems are the rot and most unreliable pathetic systems in the whole tech industry. Infact they are rubbish compared to systems much lower in the system chain. How is it that we can sustain networks for an uptime of 100% per year while the much much more expensive systems drop and collapse frequently. Amazing isn't it?

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Profiler
by Josphat 23 May '09

23 May '09

Morning Skunks? Anyone who has a better understanding of the sql server 2005 profiler (sql trace) can send me tutorials of the same or give me a site that can help. Please also include an excellent software downloading site. Thanks in advance -- Try not to become a man of success but a man of value. Albert Einstein +254726982020 or +254732982020

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Open Source Awrds
by Evans Ikua 22 May '09

22 May '09

This is an open invitation to members of this forum to the inaugural Kenya Open Source Awards to be held on 27th May at the Panafric Hotel, Nairobi. The event will kick off at 2.30. It will be preceded by a media briefing at 12.30 which will also be attended by the guest oh honour. As earlier communicated, details are on our website, www.lpakenya.org. The nominations are still ongoing. Its amazing the kind of project nominations that we have received so far. One of the biggest gains that we intend to make from these awards is to map the FOSS community on Kenya. We hope to get a clear picture of who is involved in what project in the FOSS community. Its a kind of an audit of our FOSS activity. We again appeal to you to nominate any individuals, projects or organizations that are actively involved in Open Source so that we can consider them along those that we already have. We know that there is quite a bit of FOSS activity going on out there but nobody knows what the other is doing. For instance, do you know of a hospital that has implemented an open source solution like Care2X? Or a Government Ministry that is running entirely on Linux (I have heard about the Ministry of Youth Affairs but am not sure, anyone with info?). Anyone who has helped an organization to fully migrate to FOSS? Or an Educational institution that uses/trains a lot of Open Source (Like Strath)? Or anyone who has a FOSS project at Freshmeat or Sourceforge etc? Any Individuals who have done some innovative solutions on Open Source? This information will be highly appreciated and we urge you all to come out and support this initiative by giving this information. Please dont forget that you cn also nominate yourself or your organization. Pass the word around. The full list of the award recipients will be availed before the event once we complete the nomination process. Thank you in advance and see you all there. Evans Ikua, LPA-Kenya

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