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unsubscribe please
by Gladys Maina 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Our lives are like clay on a potter’s wheel. Each day, the wheel turns anew, and with our decisions, we shape our lives; we are sculptures formed by choices, vessels crafted by free will. Your life: your masterpiece, your unique creation.

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Paypal in Kenya!
by David Mugo 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Guys, Am sure you have been following this, I just received money on my Kenyan registered paypal account, verified using my equity bank card. Is this great or what???? David. -- ------------- David Mugo, ICT & E-Commerce Consultant, http://majibu.com Twitter: @raidarmax

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OT: Job Offer
by mash lists 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi guys, We are looking for an *IT officer* in our organisation. If you have prior banking experience or know someone who has, kindly forward me the resumes ASAP. Mash

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IT Precision Toolkit
by Philip Musyoki 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi All, Anyone who know where I can get a complete set of a precision IT toolkit. I am basically looking with a toolkit with everything from precision screw-drivers to crimps and soldering guns.

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receiving online payments
by Gichingiri Kuria 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi all, I'm setting up a website that needs to receive online payments in Rwanda. The first option that comes to mind is Moneybookers<http://www.moneybookers.com>. Has anyone on the list used them? Any other options to receive online payments in (East) Africa? I'd really appreciate an option. -- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke

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Re: [Skunkworks] ANYONE ELSE EXPERIENCED SLEEP PARALYSIS.
by sheeroh＠gmail.com 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

I have to agree with Brian on this one, the spirit world is very real. I'm sorry I don't believe it's scientific, from the way Dave described it it sounds much more than just muscles paralysed during sleep. Go to a pastor :-)

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Revisiting Julius Mwale
by Daudi Were 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Remember Julius Mwale" Kenyan born American billionaire with a $700 million IPO for his company which has USD 3 billion in revenues" Original Skunkworks thread here: http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/skunkworks/2010-January/018838.html <http://lists.my.co.ke/pipermail/skunkworks/2010-January/018838.html> Allegedly the guy has just hepaed the Norfolk without paying his KSH 3.4 million bill http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Company%20Industry/-/539550/996840/-/ite… KSH 3.4 million - how much porridge is that? Ama people who stay at The Norfolk don't "take" just porridge? Was anything else ever uncovered about his tech company? -- Pamoja e:daudi.were@gmail.com <e%3Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com> skype: d.were

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python kenya tour
by Peter Muchemi 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

would the kenyan python hackers organize something like this http://coactivate.org/projects/python-african-tour/blog/ they are already inviting us "We want more countries, and in different regions… Let’s look for opportunities in the university world, and let’s do it ! Kenya, Uganda… please speak up !"

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Fwd: Safaricom sux!!
by Odhiambo Washington 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Here is Safaricom's response, and this guy tells me, without batting an eyelid, that "*As you seem to be fully aware of the terms and conditions and further were properly advised on the problem*". I wonder what terms and conditions these are - that Safaricom has some fine print somewhere which gives it the right to steal from me, perhaps? Well, anyone else who has suffered the same, just lick your wounds and walk away, for this is Queen Bee!!! You cannot take them anywhere, I guess. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: mobile office <mobileoffice(a)safaricom.co.ke> Date: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [Skunkworks] Safaricom sux!! To: odhiambo(a)gmail.com Good Evening Washington, Thank you for your email and continued use of Safaricom data products and services. We acknowledge your complaint and appreciate the frustration that you may have suffered due to the bundle allocation delay. Yes it is true we were experiencing bundle allocation delays which was promptly communicated to the call centre once this was confirmed at about 1:30PM. Like any other system, it is prone to down times as in this case which was communicated. Thus any customer would have been properly advised had they gotten in contact with customer care, which you stated that you did. To that effect you went ahead and connected to the internet access service being fully aware of the potential risk of using the service out of bundle. Which we have confirmed as per the transaction history record below. The bundle was there after allocated at 1:13:13 AM as per the transaction history record below. With regards to the other 1GB bundle request, it is not logged on our system and thus we cannot confirm the top up or request for the same. However much we empathize with your situation we cannot offer any remedial recourse to your plight. As you seem to be fully aware of the terms and conditions and further were properly advised on the problem. *Transaction History* Top up Aug 24, 2010 7:15:34 PM 2300.0000 Bundle request Aug 24, 2010 10:35:31 PM 254446 999.0000 Out of bundle usage time and duration Aug 25, 2010 12:48:20 AM 1:48:18 708.2031 Bundle allocation Timestamp Aug 25, 2010 1:13:13 AM Current balance: Ksh. 592.7986 Should you require further assistance, do not hesitate to contact us via mobileoffice(a)safaricom.co.ke for any data related queries or customercare(a)safaricom.co.ke for any other queries. Regards, Steve Barasa Data Products and Services Safaricom Limited ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:45:40 +0300 Subject: [Skunkworks] Safaricom sux!! To: skunkworks <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke> Last evening I loaded KES 2,300 worth of credit on a Safaricom data line (0720 332211) and sent an sms to 446 to purchase a 300MB bundle. With their br0ken systems (the whole of yesterday) they could not allocate me the bundle, even though they promptly deducted the KES 999. Because I could not get the confirmation of bundle allocation (CS kept telling me to wait for 20, 30, N minutes for the confirmation to come) I decided to just plugin the SIM card and use it, hoping the bundle had been allocated but only the confirmation sms was delayed. I ended up using KES 800 of my airtime, instead of the bundle!! The whole of yesterday their system was broken down. I suffered the same during the day. I loaded 2500 and sent "activate" to 448 for a 1GB Bundle. Stupid me. I had to buy 500 and top up and just use it like that. Is there a way for redress with Safaricom? They've stolen from me, buy deducting my KES 999 and not allocating me the bundle, making me to use my reserved airtime instead! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube -- Sent from my mobile device *Note:* All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom’s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/Emailtermsandconditions>to read the policy. ------------------------------ * * -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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Is this Julius Mwale chap for real? http://bit.ly/bSPH3E
by Mbugua Njihia 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

When I read today's Business Daily and came across the "Patron leaves city hotel with Sh3m unpaid bill" I laughed for a good minute at how easy it is to dupe local hospitality chaps with a "weng" and a good suit before the name Julius Mwale clicked.isn't this the guy who came into town earlier in the year in Jan, guns blazing talking big about his firm SBA technologies and dropping revenue figures in the billions of dollars? http://bit.ly/bSPH3E

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here comes the Google Tarriff!
by Michuki Mwangi 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

http://www.google.com/chat/voice/ The song in my head now is Paul Simon's "The boy in the bubble" (Graceland Album)... "This are the days of miracles and wonders .... this is a long distance call ...." Cheers, Mich.

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MikroTik Outdoor Hotspot Gateway
by david a 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi Guys, I want to implement a hotspot using the equipment below and would like to know what Distance it can cover from anyone who has used it before.Am looking at covering 500m. *MikroTik Outdoor Hotspot Gateway* *RB 433AH routerboard (miniPCI card, PoE, Pigtail, LMR cable) with a 12dbi Omni directional antenna.* Thanks!

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Google's Gmail offers free calls
by mwei gideon 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Here is another thingy to start enjoying ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Snaptu <noreply(a)snaptu.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 07:31:59 +0100 (BST) Subject: Snaptu: Google's Gmail offers free calls To: mweigideon(a)gmail.com "Google takes on Skype by offering free and cheap calls from its free web-based email service, Gmail." Click here to read the full story -- This email was sent to you from Snaptu mobile application. -- Sent from my mobile device

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Miti ni Dawa, Shiko wins @Google scholarship, hope to return to .ke and ride the mobile wave, with M-ganga platform - http://bit.ly/a9OLZP
by Mbugua Njihia 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Lady techie wins google scholarship, interesting take on traditional medicines and bringing that knowledge to the fore - http://bit.ly/a9OLZP

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The road less traveled by mobile network operators - http://bit.ly/9x2Zr3
by Mbugua Njihia 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Me thinks the only way is to open up their infrastructure - your thoughts invited - http://bit.ly/9x2Zr3

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Internet Problem
by Musya mike 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Skunks, What would make an internet connection to have speeds of over 2mbps download and approx. 0kbps upload.A speed test returns an error for the upload speed.Cannot upload(read attach in an email) even a 50kb file. The link is a 512 kbps with only one machine in use.

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Cant receive emails
by Brian Munyao Longwe 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

You have probably selected the "digest" form of the list to be sent to you. What that does is combine all the discussions into a single email at the end of the day and send to you. If you disable that feature via the web address at the bottom of any skunkworks email you've received you should be good to go. Mblayo -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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CAN SEND BUT NOT RECIEVING
by grace kui 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hey guy, I didn't get any of your welcomes.. bt i've learned from sm1 that on my email am not recieving responses on threads i make.. wat can i do... is it some sort of filter on local mails.. let me know if u eva hv a similar problem...

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OT : Looking for an IBM T42
by Ndungi Kyalo 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi Skunkers, Am looking for an Lenovo T42. The one with a 1400x1050 screen resolution. New or refurb. How much ? -- Ndungi Kyalo

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a serial GSM modem
by James Muendo 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Am looking for one of those.Any ideas? -- James M. Muendo Timsoft Technologies & Solutions Ltd. P.O Box 28016 - 00200, Nairobi. Mobile: +254725567508 skype:tim.rick http://muendoshead.blogspot.com/

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Re: [Skunkworks] Fwd: Safaricom sux!!
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

I really have a hard time believing that you got this reply from an official mailing safcom mailing list......... -----Original Message----- From: Odhiambo Washington Sent: 25/08/2010, 7:01 pm To: Skunkworks forum Subject: [Skunkworks] Fwd: Safaricom sux!! Here is Safaricom's response, and this guy tells me, without batting an eyelid, that "*As you seem to be fully aware of the terms and conditions and further were properly advised on the problem*". I wonder what terms and conditions these are - that Safaricom has some fine print somewhere which gives it the right to steal from me, perhaps? Well, anyone else who has suffered the same, just lick your wounds and walk away, for this is Queen Bee!!! You cannot take them anywhere, I guess. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: mobile office <mobileoffice(a)safaricom.co.ke> Date: Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [Skunkworks] Safaricom sux!! To: odhiambo(a)gmail.com Good Evening Washington, Thank you for your email and continued use of Safaricom data products and services. We acknowledge your complaint and appreciate the frustration that you may have suffered due to the bundle allocation delay. Yes it is true we were experiencing bundle allocation delays which was promptly communicated to the call centre once this was confirmed at about 1:30PM. Like any other system, it is prone to down times as in this case which was communicated. Thus any customer would have been properly advised had they gotten in contact with customer care, which you stated that you did. To that effect you went ahead and connected to the internet access service being fully aware of the potential risk of using the service out of bundle. Which we have confirmed as per the transaction history record below. The bundle was there after allocated at 1:13:13 AM as per the transaction history record below. With regards to the other 1GB bundle request, it is not logged on our system and thus we cannot confirm the top up or request for the same. However much we empathize with your situation we cannot offer any remedial recourse to your plight. As you seem to be fully aware of the terms and conditions and further were properly advised on the problem. *Transaction History* Top up Aug 24, 2010 7:15:34 PM 2300.0000 Bundle request Aug 24, 2010 10:35:31 PM 254446 999.0000 Out of bundle usage time and duration Aug 25, 2010 12:48:20 AM 1:48:18 708.2031 Bundle allocation Timestamp Aug 25, 2010 1:13:13 AM Current balance: Ksh. 592.7986 Should you require further assistance, do not hesitate to contact us via mobileoffice(a)safaricom.co.ke for any data related queries or customercare(a)safaricom.co.ke for any other queries. Regards, Steve Barasa Data Products and Services Safaricom Limited ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:45:40 +0300 Subject: [Skunkworks] Safaricom sux!! To: skunkworks <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke> Last evening I loaded KES 2,300 worth of credit on a Safaricom data line (0720 332211) and sent an sms to 446 to purchase a 300MB bundle. With their br0ken systems (the whole of yesterday) they could not allocate me the bundle, even though they promptly deducted the KES 999. Because I could not get the confirmation of bundle allocation (CS kept telling me to wait for 20, 30, N minutes for the confirmation to come) I decided to just plugin the SIM card and use it, hoping the bundle had been allocated but only the confirmation sms was delayed. I ended up using KES 800 of my airtime, instead of the bundle!! The whole of yesterday their system was broken down. I suffered the same during the day. I loaded 2500 and sent "activate" to 448 for a 1GB Bundle. Stupid me. I had to buy 500 and top up and just use it like that. Is there a way for redress with Safaricom? They've stolen from me, buy deducting my KES 999 and not allocating me the bundle, making me to use my reserved airtime instead! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube -- Sent from my mobile device *Note:* All emails sent from Safaricom Limited are subject to Safaricom’s Email Terms & Conditions. Please click here<http://www.safaricom.co.ke/Emailtermsandconditions>to read the policy. ------------------------------ * * -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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OT: For sale - SPA-3000 ATA
by Odhiambo Washington 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Helloz, I have 4 pieces of Linksys SPA-3000 to dispose of. Two are new (in the box with everything) while 2 are used. Expressions of Interest welcome - OFFLIST!! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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vb6 winsock with SSL
by Samson Bungei 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Hi skunks, A friend urgently needs a techie to configure an app with SSL using winsock. Payment on delivery Contact me offlist. -- Samson Bungei

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Safaricom sux!!
by Odhiambo Washington 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Last evening I loaded KES 2,300 worth of credit on a Safaricom data line (0720 332211) and sent an sms to 446 to purchase a 300MB bundle. With their br0ken systems (the whole of yesterday) they could not allocate me the bundle, even though they promptly deducted the KES 999. Because I could not get the confirmation of bundle allocation (CS kept telling me to wait for 20, 30, N minutes for the confirmation to come) I decided to just plugin the SIM card and use it, hoping the bundle had been allocated but only the confirmation sms was delayed. I ended up using KES 800 of my airtime, instead of the bundle!! The whole of yesterday their system was broken down. I suffered the same during the day. I loaded 2500 and sent "activate" to 448 for a 1GB Bundle. Stupid me. I had to buy 500 and top up and just use it like that. Is there a way for redress with Safaricom? They've stolen from me, buy deducting my KES 999 and not allocating me the bundle, making me to use my reserved airtime instead! -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins
by Steve Obbayi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

The problem is here employers don't value the work techies do. Simple and clear. That's not the worst part. The wost is that we techies have been infected too and have lost value and pride in ourselves and in our work. Steve Obbayi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ngure" <brian(a)pixie.co.ke> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:56:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins There will always be people desperate enough to take those jobs. That is what many employers count on. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Okechukwu < okechukwu(a)gmail.com > wrote: I still maintain - that skill set Linux + Programming and you want to pay 25k - you better drop dead coz you will not get. Its high time techies in this industry realize there worth, and @Imelda if you want to do the job at that pay, please go ahead and apply. ../Ok3ch On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: > Programming C++? for that amount? Are these guys going to be witting "Hello > World!" applications all day? C++ is a VERY BIG and VERY COMPLICATED > language. There's a lot that goes into developing a decent C++ program and > it can take years of active development to master C++. Yeah theory can be > learned in a couple of weeks and a simple app that asks your name and > displays it can be built on your first day. That means nothing as far C++ is > concerned, so don't start calling yourself a C++ programer just yet. > > So sking for a C++ programmer in that age bracket and that amount in this > day an age is crazy as this generation has practically no production code > experience in C++. If it were PHP, JAVA, C# thats another story but not with > C++. > > my 2cents > > Steve Obbayi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Njuki" < njukey(a)gmail.com > > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:59:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins > > IMO if it is serious work just hire one experienced Linux admin and pay > him/her the total sum paid to all the three "rookies" being sought after coz > frankly I think with such job adverts that will lead people to eventually > undermine Linux admins and what they are actually worth, Look at web design > nowadays, you got every quack of tom, dick and harry doing it and charging > meagre fees. > > > -- > ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ > 'spɹɐƃǝɹ > ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp > > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic..php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- Regards Brian Ngure _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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NEED LAPTOP KEYBOARDS -Inspiron 1545 and Latitude E5400
by Maingi Chege 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

hii all any i idea where i can get this laptop kybds for Inspiron 1545.Latitude and E5400 thank you.. regards Chege

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Re: [Skunkworks] Zap's Day Conspiracy - Mpesa is now working.
by ndungu stephen 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

*Quote:* "The M-PESA system issues have now been successfully resolved and normal services have resumed at 4:10pm today. Both handset and web services are now available; please proceed with transactions as normal."

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Safaricom Trucks Respond to Zain's "Bendover" tunes
by Theus Owicho 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Check them below http://img840.yfrog.com/gal.php?g=m4o.jpg SOURCE: Twitter

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ethernet lockup problem
by skunkworkslist 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

hello guys , need help/ideas on a certain scenario that is proving a hard nut to crack . have a remote site that co-exists with fm and tv stations . it consists of a wireless p2p link a switch and several access points . now what happens is that the wireless link does not go down but its ethernet equivalent that connects to the switch goes down on occasion only to come up without any intervention . some googling hinted at firmware issues - upgraded downgraded no diff . cabling issues - laid fresh cables shielded earthed - no diff . interference - that fm stations and ethernet share the same freq but could not get anything concrete here . contacted the vendor of the devices in use and they have gone quiet . is there anybody who has experienced such and is there any workaround apart from the obvious - moving the site to an alternate location thank you - maitha

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Techies.. Its about time - our own governing body is over due
by Oliver Ndegwa 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Dear Skunks, I believe its about time that the techies came together to form an association like any other group of professionals. The doctors, Lawyers, Architects, Engineers, finance. They have a body that governs their businesses and that sets forth certain standards that even employers have to adhere to. This way we can take all the talent available and we can nature over time graduating professions from one stage to another and eventually they can become e.g. senior partners as auditors and lawyers would refer them. In this case probably it would be Senior Technical Partner I am talking of a body consisting of duly elected or designated representatives and IT professionals from all walks joining and forming a very strong team that even the Government its self would recognize and will be coming to us for consultation let alone advice on matters of technology and its innovation/ investments. For example with the ICT city coming up soon, we should be at the fore front coming up with plans of what we envision the next techie power house will entail. Setting up standards that investors will come to adhere to so that they dont come thinking that Kenya is a cheap labor country where they can misuse our painfully earned expertise. More so, this can be used to protect its members from possible exploitation in the market place, I mean the possibilities are endless. We need to set the pace for the rest of Africa to emulate and who knows you might find them requesting for membership having gained recognitions world wide... My thoughts, Lets deliberate on this, lets look at the possibilities, keeping an open mind.. This could be it.... Warm Regards Oliver

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Recruitment Website For Sale
by Theus Owicho 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Guys A Friend who runs a recruitment website which is in top 30 most visited websites in Kenya is selling it. If you are interested, get in touch off list Owicho

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Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls
by [db] 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Personally, I think this price wars are a good thing for the consumer who still have to look really closely to make a choice. Some seem better and there's one more. Check this out: http://orangetkl.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=118:ora…

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Orange joins Mobile War and unleashes Tariff salvo
by Brian Munyao Longwe 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Its official call unlimited for FREE from 10.00 am- 5.00 pm daily Orange to Orange and to a fixed line for only 100 each month. Further, Orange customers can also enjoy calls Orange -Orange/landline at the lowest on net tariff of Kshs 2 per min and SMS at Kshs 1, while rates to other networks are slashed ...to Kshs 4 ...per min and Kshs 2 for SMS. This new tariff is permanent and goes live today at midnight. -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Mandriva >> projector problem
by Kevin Gichuhi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Hi gurus! Am having a problem trying to configure mandriva 2010 for a powerpoint presentation any Ideas? -- *Waigwa Gichuhi # +254-722 977 563 / +254-750 252 012 Blog:http://waigwagichuhi.blogspot.com/*

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Free video/voice calls on Gmail chat from browser
by Andrew Wachira 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Guys, in case you haven't seen this: http://www.google.com/chat/video The voice/video plugin is now available for linux as well and with amazing quality! Cheers! -- http://www.chromeexperiments.com

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Queen Bee's move exposes its soft underbelly.
by [ Brainiac ] 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

After a long day analyzing and re analyzing decisions made by safaricom, and after looking at the provisional product presented to "cool off" the market, I am of the opinion that in so doing safaricom may have unwittingly exposed what clients give them most revenue. -> those that spend Ksh 100 and above. hear me out. 1: They have changed nothing on the sms front, meaning they know once youre hooked on the correct calling rates, it will not matter how much you are charged. (and the converse is true--> no tarrif is likely to perform well if the incentive is only cheap (or even free) text messages). 2. The cost of supporting the clients on the 5bob to 20 bob airtime range must be abnormally high or not worth it in the long run. I suspect safaricom may actually be deliberatily easing the decision by these clients to move to zain and competition so that they are left only with the "right" kind of clientelle, where the average support cost per client is lower and probably ARPU higher. 3: Postpaid clients are .. an unnecessary evil, or a well kept secret that they hope to grow in the long term. I suspect this has something to do with holding up cash flow for the company. Conclusion: Competitors might want to look at their reactionary move and strike where it hurts most, otherwise they stand to remain with clients at the absolute lower end of the market where volumes are high but value is low. Me thoughts. -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 404
by Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Dear all, Just to make a clarification on the new Orange Tariff Regardless of the amount you top up the new calling rates are Kshs 2 from Orange on -net (mobile+ wireless and fixed line) and Kshs 1 for SMS while calls to other networks will be charged at Kshs 4 per minute and Kshs 2 for SMS. Additionally for Kshs 100 per month you can make on net calls for free every day from 10.00 a.m. - 5 p.m. I hope this clarifies the new tariff. regards, Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo Head of Corporate Communications Telkom Kenya On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM, <skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to > skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > skunkworks-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls > ([ Brainiac ]) > 2. Recruitment Website For Sale (Theus Owicho) > 3. Re: Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls > ([db]) > 4. Re: Recruitment Website For Sale (Alvin Jason Ochieng) > 5. Re: Recruitment Website For Sale (Theus Owicho) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:11 +0300 > From: "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> > To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Orange launches lowest on-net calls and > first free calls > Message-ID: > <AANLkTim0gqbw3VX1Y63hVM7yk56aswT3uz+afmeVBpnK(a)mail.gmail.com<AANLkTim0gqbw3VX1Y63hVM7yk56aswT3uz%2BafmeVBpnK(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > just how is Ksh 2 a minute for Ksh 100 top time and Ksh 4 across networks > the lowest in the market? these guys need to call a spade a spade. > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > A majority of Safaricom shareholders are its own customers too. And most > > shareholders have figured out that they are spending more on airtime than > > what they get back as dividends (since the share price is pretty much > > stagnant), hence they are happy with the price reductions. Its good for > > consumers, good for most shareholders and maybe not so good for a _few_ > > shareholders. > > > > > > On 25 August 2010 07:53, Musya mike <mmycool(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Qt good for the consumer,bt bad for the safcom shareholder! > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, [db] <dimbega(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Personally, I think this price wars are a good thing for the consumer > who > >>> still have to look really closely to make a choice. > >>> Some seem better and there's one more. > >>> > >>> Check this out: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://orangetkl.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=118:ora… > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> ------------ > >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >>> > >>> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >>> ------------ > >>> Skunkworks Rules > >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> ------------ > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> > >> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > > > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > Posted on 100% recycled electrons >

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Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins
by Steve Obbayi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Programming C++? for that amount? Are these guys going to be witting "Hello World!" applications all day? C++ is a VERY BIG and VERY COMPLICATED language. There's a lot that goes into developing a decent C++ program and it can take years of active development to master C++. Yeah theory can be learned in a couple of weeks and a simple app that asks your name and displays it can be built on your first day. That means nothing as far C++ is concerned, so don't start calling yourself a C++ programer just yet. So sking for a C++ programmer in that age bracket and that amount in this day an age is crazy as this generation has practically no production code experience in C++. If it were PHP, JAVA, C# thats another story but not with C++. my 2cents Steve Obbayi ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Njuki" <njukey(a)gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:59:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins IMO if it is serious work just hire one experienced Linux admin and pay him/her the total sum paid to all the three "rookies" being sought after coz frankly I think with such job adverts that will lead people to eventually undermine Linux admins and what they are actually worth, Look at web design nowadays, you got every quack of tom, dick and harry doing it and charging meagre fees. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ 'spɹɐƃǝɹ ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx
by King'ori Gitahi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

I thought this was a joke until someone from Safaricom called to confirm.� Lol hehehe things are truly elephant.� If you won't go to the fight, they will take the fight to you!�� For the first time Safaricom has a real competitor in Bharti Airtel.� The rest of the guys were just joking.� May the best man win!. Kingz For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela� > ----- Original message ----- > From: "Alvin Jason Ochieng‎" <ajochola(a)gmail.com> > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List‎" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:03:49 +0300 > > >LOL !!! Margaret !! > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:39 PM, margaret wanjiru > <mwanjiru07(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This is going too far now.....a Zain promotional truck is moving slowly > > outside the safaricom HQ with the loudest music off the main high way.... > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> As this post will never end what do we as Subscribers care about?? > >> > >> Isn't it just cheaper rates with good quality ?? > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Let me ask guys on this page. If your competitor slashed prices for the > >> > sake > >> > of it, do you slash yours immediately? In my opinion the folly therein > >> > lies > >> > in believing that your services are of equal value and your economics > >> > are > >> > the same. Which I think is not the case here > >> > There has been euphoria as is the usual kenyan behaviour (elections, > >> > IPOs , > >> > Pyramid schemes) without considering the bigger picture. To date few of > >> > my > >> > friends who did not already have a Zain line bought one. Which means > >> > that > >> > they probably just call more from Zain but still carry out their > >> > surfing, > >> > money transfer and mobile banking from their safcom line. And when they > >> > run > >> > out of Zain airtime in an area without a dealer, still call from > >> > safaricom > >> > Also I dont believe Safaricom are dropping prices this week purely on > >> > zains > >> > assault, they are probably just doing it faster, because price reduction > >> > after CCKs move would only have been hampered if the big 4 telecoms > >> > colluded > >> > not to reduce prices. After which CCK would have still cracked the whip. > >> > Lets understand the business behind safaricom. Not just wish doom on > >> > them > >> > because they are succesful > >> > Joram > >> > > >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau > >> > <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 23 August 2010 09:47, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Its like having a disloyal wife, there's nothing you can do as long as > >> >>> you love her and her waywardness. > >> >>> > >> >>> My simple take. > >> >> > >> >> As long as a woman is beautiful, she'll never lack suitors!!! > >> >>> > >> >>> /.0721586109// > >> >>> /.0733911199// > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, marto <martow(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The CCK consultants study�put the�cost of setting up a call at > >> >>>> Ksh0.88, > >> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/3xyqg8g > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Oliver Ndegwa > >> >>>> <olie.ndegwa(a)gmail.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> For safaricom to put their foot down and say that they are not moved > >> >>>>> by > >> >>>>> Zain's move, its completely infamous. Either these guys were not > >> >>>>> prepared > >> >>>>> for such or I would call their stance� the last kicks of a dying > >> >>>>> horse. > >> >>>>> Very� very powerful and resistant. They need to swarrow their pride > >> >>>>> and come > >> >>>>> back to their senses and start to understand that the long queues in > >> >>>>> Zain > >> >>>>> shops are not people registering as voters. These are safaricom > >> >>>>> customers > >> >>>>> making a big switch. > >> >>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >> >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> >>> ------------ > >> >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> >>> ------------ > >> >>> Skunkworks Rules > >> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> >>> ------------ > >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau > >> >> > >> >> ***************************************************** > >> >> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > >> >> the > >> >> same way to the side of a hill! > >> >> > >> >> AND > >> >> > >> >> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous > >> >> generosity! > >> >> > >> >> http://smiley2.wordpress.com > >> >> http://mburu.sikika.co.ke > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Skunkworks Rules > >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > God is not an excuse for lack of discipline > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful > >> > beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens > >> > us.There is > >> > nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel > >> > insecure > >> > around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other > >> > people > >> > permission to do the same. > >> > As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates > >> > others. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Skunkworks mailing list > >> > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> > ------------ > >> > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> > > >> > > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> > ------------ > >> > Skunkworks Rules > >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> > ------------ > >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Margaret. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -------------------------------------------------------------- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com

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Safaricom PostPaid Rates
by Philip Musyoki 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Seems Safaricom has reduced PostPaid rates to KES 3 to any network from tomorrow. Not sure whether this is permanent or an offer. Sent from my iPhone

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ORIGINAL APC UPS BATTERIES
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Anyone on the list know the genuine dealers for YUASA or CSB Batteries locally? My contacts are below: Alvin Ochola CELL PERSONAL - 0722-313923 - 0733 -313923

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Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls
by [db] 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

http://orangetkl.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=118:ora…

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Quality of content on the forum.
by [ Brainiac ] 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

hi guys, have you noticed a deterioration of the quality of content on this forum, not just relevance to the initial aspirations of the list but even contributions to everyday questions are the very least shallow. Anyone notice this? have all the purists left? :-) -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Where can i get this.
by Job Muriuki 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

A usb high powered wifi card. https://www.xconcepts-me.com/product_details.asp?CatId=3&SubCatId=&ProdId=2… -- Regards, Job Njogu Muriuki, Phone: (+254) - 772333075 | 736333075 Skype: heviejob | Yahoo: heviejob Address: 42665 00100 Nrb

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3com Switches
by gachuhi anthony 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Dear All i am looking for this switches especially the managed ones pls advise where i can get them , checked with most dealers with no luck regards Anto

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Need a Kenyan Techie/Web Guru to build me a personal photo site.
by N. Kenyatta Gray 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Opportunity for a Skunk/ettes/ to build me a personal photo site. I've had my current classic site for a minute going back to when it was ofoto but unfortunately the classics are being shut down next month. What i want for my new site is to not only host it but include voice/music to the slideshows -> example. Please contact me offlist @ nkenyattagray(a)gmail.com. Regards, N. Kenyatta Gray +1 (415) 754 ~ 3179 ________________________________ http://google.com/profiles/nkenyattagray

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20 Kenyan Web & Tech Innovations Worth Watching - Thoughts?
by Mark Kaigwa 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Mark Kaigwa Creative Director | Digital Media Strategist Kenya: +254-722-905553 South Africa: +27 76 884 9931 Schedule: http://tungle.me/MarkK Twitter: http://twitter.com/MKaigwa LinkedIn: http://linkedin.com/in/MKaigwa Skype: Mark.Kaigwa ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Mark Kaigwa <mkaigwa(a)googlemail.com> Date: 6 August 2010 08:14 Subject: 20 Kenyan Web & Tech Innovations Worth Watching - Thoughts? To: Skunkworks mailing List <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> By no means an exhaustive <http://bit.ly/dhWLNx>list, Here's the list as appeared on Memeburn.Com It includes: - Whive - Wazua - KenyanLyrics - Mocality - Eat Out Kenya - PataUza Link - memeburn.com/2010/08/20/20-kenyan-start-ups-worth-watching<http://bit.ly/dhWLNx> Thoughts? Mark Kaigwa Creative Director | Digital Media Strategist Kenya: +254-722-905-553 | +254-714-278-846 South Africa: +27-76- 884-9931 Twitter: http://twitter.com/MKaigwa Schedule: http://tungle.me/MarkK Blogs: http://africandigitalart.com | http://afrinnovator.com | http://gotissuez.com

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Wanted: MPLS Guru for short assignment
by Brian Munyao Longwe 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi there, If you're an MPLS guru, please get in touch with me off-list. Thanks, Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Zap's Day Conspiracy [24th/Aug] - Anybody experiencing Mpesa problems ?
by ndungu stephen 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Anyone experiencing Mpesa problems ? w/regards Stephen N.

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Foster school's global social entrepreneurship competition (GSEC)
by Brian Munyao Longwe 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

UW's foster business school is accepting applications for the GSEC, the deadline is Nov 4th. http://www.foster.washington.edu/centers/gbc/globalsocialentrepreneurshipco… -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins
by Steve Obbayi 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Actually @Imelda, you are right, it depends on where you work... everything in this world depends on another thing, doesn't it? A grad will see this as an opportunity to gain experience (it could be a good experience or a bad experience). No argument there. We all need to live, eat n play. Yeah the salary covers that... these are young minds, the brains behind the future innovation of Kenya. This is not just a Kenya problem... Imelda I get lots of college students emailing me to pay me to do their C++ and Assembly assignments for them. Seriously!!! These are simple problems. What happens when these guys hit reality claiming they know C++ or assembly and they charged to build critical systems. Then what? Yet their papers show they got al A's. It happens here a lots where programmers are hired to do a job and are let go coz they just cant hack it. Based on this Ad there is no experience that will be gained here unless the applicant takes up side projects. Here's why... Doing C++ project on linux, the guy needs to be competent with stuff like Make configurations, Linkers, compiler optimizations, Data structures, threading, memory, probably CPU optimizations 32/64bit, address spaces, The list goes on and on... someone with all that already has the experience and would not make sense doing this job to gain experience. In short i can guarantee you that the applicants will never write a single line of code in C++. they sould have asked for python or some other script. Steve Obbayi @Steve depends where you work at the end of the day , well for all the fresh graduates please apply and ignore the arrongance , trust me half of them are earning just slightly more than that (sorry i had to go there ) On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: The problem is here employers don't value the work techies do. Simple and clear. That's not the worst part. The wost is that we techies have been infected too and have lost value and pride in ourselves and in our work. Steve Obbayi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Ngure" < brian(a)pixie.co.ke > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:56:09 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins There will always be people desperate enough to take those jobs. That is what many employers count on. On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Okechukwu < okechukwu(a)gmail.com > wrote: I still maintain - that skill set Linux + Programming and you want to pay 25k - you better drop dead coz you will not get. Its high time techies in this industry realize there worth, and @Imelda if you want to do the job at that pay, please go ahead and apply. .../Ok3ch On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: > Programming C++? for that amount? Are these guys going to be witting "Hello > World!" applications all day? C++ is a VERY BIG and VERY COMPLICATED > language. There's a lot that goes into developing a decent C++ program and > it can take years of active development to master C++. Yeah theory can be > learned in a couple of weeks and a simple app that asks your name and > displays it can be built on your first day. That means nothing as far C++ is > concerned, so don't start calling yourself a C++ programer just yet. > > So sking for a C++ programmer in that age bracket and that amount in this > day an age is crazy as this generation has practically no production code > experience in C++. If it were PHP, JAVA, C# thats another story but not with > C++. > > my 2cents > > Steve Obbayi > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Njuki" < njukey(a)gmail.com > > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:59:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins > > IMO if it is serious work just hire one experienced Linux admin and pay > him/her the total sum paid to all the three "rookies" being sought after coz > frankly I think with such job adverts that will lead people to eventually > undermine Linux admins and what they are actually worth, Look at web design > nowadays, you got every quack of tom, dick and harry doing it and charging > meagre fees. > > > -- > ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ > 'spɹɐƃǝɹ > ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp > > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic...php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co...ke -- Regards Brian Ngure _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Limited Options | What do the other telco players do
by [ Brainiac ] 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

I would like, for a purely business management perspective to hear what you guys would do if you were in the feet of Orange Kenya and Yu Essar in view of rough waters. This should be a good discussion on strategy and adaptation in IT business., -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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<ADVERT> Dell Inspiron N5010---Top shelf Notebook.Plenty of processing prowess for Business & Pleasure @ $771. Now with Powerful Intel Core i3 Processor & 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon Graphics Card
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

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BROKEN DOWN HARD DRIVE.
by Dave Kirirah 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Any one who has a FUJITSU 500GB 2.5" | TYPE G2 (TOSHIBA COOPORATION) Model MJA2500BH | SATA. with a working board i can borrow to extract data from a mulfunctioned drive of a similar kind. Please share if you do or know someone who deals with this drives all the time. Thanks.

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OpenFlashCharts + Codeigniter
by Isaak Mogetutu 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi Gurus, I need some help fixing labels on a pie chart generated by openflashcharts I have managed to get the segments populated but the labels are not working. Ideas are welcomed public function get_data_pie() { $this->load->plugin('ofc2'); $title = new title( $title ); $pie = new pie(); $pie->set_alpha(0.6); $pie->set_start_angle( 35 ); $pie->add_animation( new pie_fade() ); $pie->set_tooltip( '#val# of #total#<br>#percent# of 100%' ); $pie->set_colours( array('#1C9E05','#FF368D') ); $sql = mysql_query("SELECT gender, count(gender) AS number FROM students GROUP BY gender"); $max = 0; while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql)) { $data[] = (intval($row['number'])); $label[] = (intval($row['gender'])); to show "Male","Female" Labels on the respective segments } $pie->set_values( array(new pie_value($data,$label) ); this segment is what needs a patch $chart = new open_flash_chart(); $chart->set_title( $title ); $chart->add_element( $pie ); * * * * $chart->x_axis = null; echo $chart->toPrettyString(); } -- Isaak Mogetutu

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20 Kenyan Web & Tech Innovations Worth Watching - Thoughts?
by Mark Kaigwa 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

By no means an exhaustive <http://bit.ly/dhWLNx>list, Here's the list as appeared on Memeburn.Com It includes: - Whive - Wazua - KenyanLyrics - Mocality - Eat Out Kenya - PataUza Link - memeburn.com/2010/08/20/20-kenyan-start-ups-worth-watching<http://bit.ly/dhWLNx> Thoughts? Mark Kaigwa Creative Director | Digital Media Strategist Kenya: +254-722-905-553 | +254-714-278-846 South Africa: +27-76- 884-9931 Twitter: http://twitter.com/MKaigwa Schedule: http://tungle.me/MarkK Blogs: http://africandigitalart.com | http://afrinnovator.com | http://gotissuez.com

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KDN
by michael wambua 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

KDN support what's happening The net is down since morning On 8/13/10, Samuel Wachira <wachirasam(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Blonde walks into a doctor's office. > "Doctor, my whole body hurts" > She touches her leg, "Ouch!" yells. > She touches her earlobe, "ouch!" she cries > She touches her hair, "Ouch!" she screams. > > > The doctor tells her, > "Madam, yo've got a broken finger" > > > Made my day.. > > Sam > -- Sent from my mobile device Michael Wambua +254 712710697 info(a)michaelwambua.com www.michaelwambua.com

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Vacancies : Network Engineers
by Nick Muttai 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

To all interested Skunks, A company is looking for the the above. The requirements are below: The Network Engineer position oversees the installation, configuration and maintenance of networked information systems. *Responsibilities:* 1. Install all new hardware, systems, and software for networks. 2. Install, configure, and maintain network services, equipment and devices. 3. Supports administration of servers and server clusters. 4. Manages all system back-up and restore protocol. 5. Plans and supports network and computing infrastructure. 6. Perform troubleshooting analysis of routers, servers, workstations and associated systems. 7. Documents network problems and resolution for future reference. 8. Monitors system performance and implements performance tuning. 9. Requires a thorough knowledge of networking essentials. 10. Oversee software and network security. 11. Strong analytical abilities and professional office experience needed. *Technical Skills and Requirements:* 1. Certifications: MCSE and/or CCNA, CCNP 2. Education: Bachelor’s Degree in Computer Science, Information Technology or similar from a recognized institution 3. Systems: Windows, Cisco Systems, UNIX, Linux 4. Experience in networking including cisco switches, routers and firewalls, 5. Setup, implementation and maintenance of mail servers, DNS servers, web servers, anti-virus, anti-spam 6. Experience and knowledge of WANs, TCP/IP, DNS, VoIP, QoS, EIGRP, BGP, OSPF Only shortlisted candidates will be contacted. Send your résumé <r%C3%A9sum%C3%A9> and application letter to *jobs(a)commcarrier.com* <jobs(a)commcarrier.com> -- Mwafrika

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HOW COMES NO ONE IS
by Dave Kirirah 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

How comes no one is answering my HARD DRIVE post. I really need ur assistance techies....

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Career Opportunities
by Brian Munyao Longwe 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi people, There is a telecoms operator looking for: - Broadband Services Sales Engineer - a techno-commercial role focusing on strategies to increase data revenues via broadband services - Value Added Services Sales Engineer - a techno-commercial role focusing on strategies to increase sms/messaging revenues via VAS If you think you've got what it takes in terms of experience and competence, send me your CV so I can put you in touch with them. Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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sofa bed
by Ericko 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Izhaw am seliing a sofa bed for a quick sale 0721 311 790 hola for more info Eric

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Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins
by maina 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Of-late people ave been posting jobs here not realizing tht this forum/maillist is full of seasoned ICT pros,,to be serious where can u find an 18 old linux sysadmin? when did he/she finish basic edu leave alone linux sysadmin's experience! Does the poster know how many yrs of hands-on experience does one need before you qualify to be a linux sysadmin? I guess not, do research pls and u will know where am coming from. --- On Tue, 8/24/10, m mugo <mugo2of3(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: m mugo <mugo2of3(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 2:28 AM Well put Maina, the strategy here seems to be to get 3 for the price of one. Also note you need to have programming knowledge to fit the profile On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:03 PM, maina <mamwake(a)yahoo.com> wrote: I SECOND THAT.! But i think he want to get 3 linux sysadmins for a salary of 1, as in divide a salary for 1 sysadmin and give it to 3,,kill 3 birds with 1 stone.Plus check the age bracket too, does it say something? --- On Tue, 8/24/10, Okechukwu <okechukwu(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Okechukwu <okechukwu(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 1:53 AM Maybe am off, but paying that to a linux administrator is a mockery of linux skills ./Ok3ch On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 11:11 AM, JEREMIAH CHUNGE <jayrehmc(a)gmail.com> wrote: Skunk/ettes/ A colleague wants 3 linux sys admins for his company: Basic summary: Terms: - 25-35 k per mnth, - technical experience preferred in linux administration / programming (C++) / SQL - 18-25yrs age bracket desired Send CV, cover letter+plus contact tel. number to ezekiel.macharia(a)gmail.com Best of luck.. Cheers _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Sales Foftware
by Isaac Macharia 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi All, Hope you been well, am looking for a sales forecasting software to help compliment my ERP on Budgeting and forecasting. Who have an idea of the best software, currently am using SQL Server DB. ISAAC K. MACHARIA P.O BOX 00200-56787 NAIROBI

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vacancies - 3 linux sys admins
by JEREMIAH CHUNGE 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Skunk/ettes/ A colleague wants 3 linux sys admins for his company: Basic summary: Terms: - 25-35 k per mnth, - technical experience preferred in linux administration / programming (C++) / SQL - 18-25yrs age bracket desired Send CV, cover letter+plus contact tel. number to ezekiel.macharia(a)gmail.com Best of luck.. Cheers

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Optical SFP
by ibtisam jamal 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi , Where can i get Ge optical SFP in nairobi. Regards,

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not receiving post
by grace kui 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi, i recently subscribed to the mailing list but am not receiving the daily post. i also need to stop receiving daily digest that appear like this Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 362Thanks

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OT:Caterpillar 951B Serial no. 69h1 and above Traxcavator service manual
by Mark Mwangi 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hey guys, Much as this may not be very computery / geeky Am looking for the above manual and it is proving to be rather rare. The places I can get are selling it exorbitantly upwards of $160 and am like that's a bit too hefty. So am looking for anyone that Works/have worked with Caterpillar to hook me up with the manual.Am willing to pay a reasonable fee. Am told it is accessible from the SIS web platform but alas its a private network for Caterpillar suppliers and dealers. -- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.posterous.com Skype : mark.mwangy

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Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx
by Luke Kuvheya 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Ok so safcom is giving a month only... antway enugoh time for us to acquire addtional handsets... coz as long as zain will be keeping that price might as well use that when the month is up :-D

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Club websites
by Derrick Wesonga 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

I know we are currently getting thumped on the league but as a techie am proud of the AFC leopards site (as compared to the rest). AFC - http://www.afcleopards.co.ke The rest: Gor: www.gormahia.net or www.gormahia.co.ke (not sure which one is genuine) Mathare: http://www.mysakenya.org/ sofapaka: http://www.sofapaka.com/ the rest don't have or are not worth quoting

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Mssql trigger
by Calvin Omari 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi Techies, I am used to Mysql triggers but right now am needed to create a MSSQl trigger that does the following I have a table my_items that has a column/field called sent_items and received_items such that if the recieved item is yes the trigger will update the sent items as yes where the id is maintained to allow only required updates Regards -- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us. Calvin Omari Systems Developer/Designer http://www.facebook.com/barongo

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TEST EMAIL
by grace kui 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

please welcome me

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Joozi - African open source dev community
by Erik Hersman 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

A new site for you to post (and find) open source projects in the African tech scene. Post yours: http://www.joozi.com Erik Hersman www.ushahidi.com www.afrigadget.com | www.whiteafrican.com | @whiteafrican

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80 metres CAT5 cable
by Daudi Were 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Good morning, I need 80 metres CAT5 or CAT6 cable (2 x 40 metres) Anyone know a reliable place where I can get this today in Nairobi? Please share if you do. Thanks D -- Pamoja e:daudi.were@gmail.com <e%3Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com> skype: d.were

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laptop
by Festus Ngina 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi guys, Am looking for a second hand laptop preferrably a hp in the range of 20-25k... specifications....Ram > 512,processor dual core,hard disk >80gb....A 'cool' celeron might also do. If you are a techie dealing with such pls email me. -- Kind regards, Festus

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Fastest Cyber cafe
by Timothy Kyalo 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi guys, I'm looking for the fastest cyber cafe in town. I need to download an iso pretty urgently. Any recommendations? Kind regards, Kyalo

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Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx
by King'ori Gitahi 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

One thing to note in publicity stunts.� All publicity wether childish or otherwise is good publicity.� It make you or your brand more visible.� The hype on twitter and facebook and this list created by that silly stunt is well worth it.� kingz For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela� ----- Original message ----- From: "Bernard Mwagiru‎" <bmwagiru(a)gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List‎" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:25:22 +0300 The idea of having the truck blasting "bend over" outside Safcom....I see it actually parked outside the building...what for? Was that to woo safcom employees into buying zain SIM cards ???I dont think so...Those trucks are used for promoting products to consumers....it would not make sense if citizen/royal media parked outside KBC offices, blaring music at KBC staff....now that would be childish! �./bernard On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> wrote: On 23 August 2010 15:07, Bernard Mwagiru <bmwagiru(a)gmail.com> wrote: That's childish.... ./bernard Who or what? On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Jacob Odada <jacob.odada(a)gmail.com> wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8hpVLIFZo thats the youtube link. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:51 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: thanks @watson. On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:10 PM, King'ori Gitahi <kingorigitahi(a)ovi.com> wrote: > I thought this was a joke until someone from Safaricom called to confirm. > Lol hehehe things are truly elephant.� If you won't go to the fight, they > will take the fight to you!�� For the first time Safaricom has a real > competitor in Bharti Airtel.� The rest of the guys were just joking.� May > the best man win!. > > Kingz > > > > For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way > that respects and enhances the freedom of others. > > Nelson Mandela > > > > > >> ----- Original message ----- >> From: "Alvin Jason Ochieng‎" <ajochola(a)gmail.com> >> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List‎" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable >> pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx >> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:03:49 +0300 >> >> >>LOL !!! Margaret !! >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:39 PM, margaret wanjiru >> <mwanjiru07(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > This is going too far now.....a Zain promotional truck is moving slowly >> > outside the safaricom HQ with the loudest music off the main high >> > way.... >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng >> > <ajochola(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> As this post will never end what do we as Subscribers care about?? >> >> >> >> Isn't it just cheaper rates with good quality ?? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Joram Mwinamo >> >> <joram.mwinamo(a)gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> > Let me ask guys on this page. If your competitor slashed prices for >> >> > the >> >> > sake >> >> > of it, do you slash yours immediately? In my opinion the folly >> >> > therein >> >> > lies >> >> > in believing that your services are of equal value and your economics >> >> > are >> >> > the same. Which I think is not the case here >> >> > There has been euphoria as is the usual kenyan behaviour (elections, >> >> > IPOs , >> >> > Pyramid schemes) without considering the bigger picture. To date few >> >> > of >> >> > my >> >> > friends who did not already have a Zain line bought one. Which means >> >> > that >> >> > they probably just call more from Zain but still carry out their >> >> > surfing, >> >> > money transfer and mobile banking from their safcom line. And when >> >> > they >> >> > run >> >> > out of Zain airtime in an area without a dealer, still call from >> >> > safaricom >> >> > Also I dont believe Safaricom are dropping prices this week purely on >> >> > zains >> >> > assault, they are probably just doing it faster, because price >> >> > reduction >> >> > after CCKs move would only have been hampered if the big 4 telecoms >> >> > colluded >> >> > not to reduce prices. After which CCK would have still cracked the >> >> > whip. >> >> > Lets understand the business behind safaricom. Not just wish doom on >> >> > them >> >> > because they are succesful >> >> > Joram >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau >> >> > <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 August 2010 09:47, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi(a)gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Its like having a disloyal wife, there's nothing you can do as long >> >> >>> as >> >> >>> you love her and her waywardness. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> My simple take. >> >> >> >> >> >> As long as a woman is beautiful, she'll never lack suitors!!! >> >> >>> >> >> >>> /.0721586109// >> >> >>> /.0733911199// >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, marto <martow(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> The CCK consultants study�put the�cost of setting up a call at >> >> >>>> Ksh0.88, >> >> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/3xyqg8g >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Oliver Ndegwa >> >> >>>> <olie.ndegwa(a)gmail.com> >> >> >>>> wrote: >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> For safaricom to put their foot down and say that they are not >> >> >>>>> moved >> >> >>>>> by >> >> >>>>> Zain's move, its completely infamous. Either these guys were not >> >> >>>>> prepared >> >> >>>>> for such or I would call their stance� the last kicks of a dying >> >> >>>>> horse. >> >> >>>>> Very� very powerful and resistant. They need to swarrow their >> >> >>>>> pride >> >> >>>>> and come >> >> >>>>> back to their senses and start to understand that the long queues >> >> >>>>> in >> >> >>>>> Zain >> >> >>>>> shops are not people registering as voters. 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Fwd: Zain says "Bendover" to Safaricom ... LoL!
by Brian Munyao Longwe 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

You thought mobile wars are nasty wait until you see this http://youtu.be/lW8hpVLIFZo - Zain promotional van infront of Safcom house, playing "Bendover!" - apparently Safaricom called the cops .... hehehehe Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe | Chief Technology Officer | Workable Solutions Limited Cell: +254722518744 http://www.workable.it We Make IT Work for You!

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Cyber cafe
by Timothy Kyalo 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi guys, I'm looking for the fastest cyber cafe in town. I need to download an iso pretty urgently. Any recommendations? Kind regards, Kyalo

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Asia Future Internet Forum
by Michuki Mwangi 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi Skunks, Happening this week is the Asia Future Internet Forum - Summer School meeting for 2010. Where Students from various universities in Asia (China, Japan, Korea, etc) meet up and present on research work into the future of internet. Looking at the topic presentations (see the bottom of url) am quite impressed at the fact that more of the folks are doing their masters program and not phd's. And this is just a part of the coursework!... Am curious to know - What can one expect to find in a masters coursework at a local University in the Region? http://asiafi.net/meeting/2010/summerschool/ Regards, Michuki.

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Re: [Skunkworks] HTML5 Experiments
by John Ndambuki 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Interesting stuff: *HTML5 Experiments* http://hakim.se/experiments/ Kind Regards John Ndambuki

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CONTACTS FOR GOOGLE SUPPORT.
by Sammy Njoroge 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi, Dave ust drop me an email or reach me via the numbers below. We are a Google Apps Reseller so in-case you need to reach Google we might be of some assistance and in the meantime we can help you figure out the issue at hand. regards Sammy Njoroge Systems Consultant DataLogic Technologies 254720804108 / 254202483833 snjoroge(a)datalogic.co.ke www.datalogic.co.ke On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:50 PM, <skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke You can reach the person managing the list at skunkworks-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: CONTACTS FOR GOOGLE SUPPORT. (Watson Kambo) 2. Re: Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx ([ Brainiac ]) 3. Re: CONTACTS FOR GOOGLE SUPPORT. (Odhiambo Washington) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:46:16 +0300 From: Watson Kambo <wkwats(a)gmail.com> To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] CONTACTS FOR GOOGLE SUPPORT. Message-ID: <AANLkTi=orV_VV0i8HrKWEKRJAz9EPEFFEsq9qSp1Hg3h(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Oh its wananchi .... good to know ... tell us about the support ;-) On 23 August 2010 11:10, Dave Kirirah <dave.kirirah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > sawa Brian.. > > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com >wrote: > >> Dave, >> >> Have sent you a Gtalk request - let's chat on this issue - will try to >> assist.... >> >> Brian >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Dave Kirirah <dave.kirirah(a)gmail.com >wrote: >> >>> Guyz I've tried everything with this support people at wananchi.. they >>> claim they have done everything correct but i do not have results i want. >>> Thats why i need to coordinate with some one at google. >>> >>> Oh and DAUDI WERE... I have looked up my Mx records they exist but cname >>> record doesnt seem to be found... the HOST says i speak to Google ... bt i >>> need a contact to do this.. i will fire them later on....after my mail is >>> up. >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Daudi Were <daudi.were(a)gmail.com >wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 August 2010 10:15, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dave: >>>>> >>>>> 1: Before you talk to google, call your hosts and threaten to fire >>>>> them. if they cant change your domain name records, they have no >>>>> business doing business. >>>>> 2: Records dont propagate at 5 oclock, they take Minutes. >>>>> >>>> >>>> In addition to what Brainiac suggests please go here to check your cname >>>> records: >>>> http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=116393 >>>> >>>> I have a client where the cname records are set up correctly but they >>>> can not access their custom url from their office. After going back and >>>> forth with them on the phone I finally went over and discovered that indeed >>>> you could not reach the custom url or even their website from their office. >>>> AfricaOnline DNS had not yet picked up the new servers more than a week >>>> later. A quick check by switching to OpenDNS confirmed this. >>>> >>>> So check the cname records just in case >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pamoja >>>> >>>> e:daudi.were@gmail.com <e%3Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com> < e%3Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com <e%253Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com>> >>>> skype: d.were >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>> >>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Brian Munyao Longwe >> e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com >> cell: + 254 722 518 744 >> blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com >> meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -- Watson Kambo

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Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx
by Mbugua Njihia 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx

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(no subject)
by muite nicholas 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi everybody, I'm having a problem with a Windows 2003 server where by Im able to connect to the server using remote desktop and I can even login. But after login all I get is a bluescreen. no desktop is appearing. Anyone with a solution to this issue? Any help will be highly appreciated. -- Muite Nicholas G mobile:+267 72900342 email:nmuite@googlemail.com,

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Cisco 877W
by Odhiambo Washington 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Supposing there are organizations still using ADSL from Telkom, are there folks using the Cisco 877W or even the 857W? Is there any vendor having the 877W in stock locally? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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Android Phones
by Amarjit Labhuram 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hellow all, Would anyone know where I can get either of these android phones and at a low price: Motorola Milestone XT720 Samsung I9000 Galaxy S Need to upgrade to a smart phone soon. Have a great day! Warm regards, Amarjit Singh Labhuram.

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[SELLING] Used network products for sale
by Jonas | Lamu Software 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

3 Linksys WRT54GL, 3 D-Link DWL-2700AP and more http://lamusoftware.com/used-network-products-sale

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Nokia N900 office mail
by kimondo Duncan 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi skunks, I have a guy using nokia N900 and a PC to receive his office mail. When the phone is connected to internet the Pc cannot receive mail. The Pc is using outlook 2003. I have tried some googling without success. Any body with suggestions?

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Re: [Skunkworks] OT: WD TV Mini
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Ive no idea what this is... maybe u can let me know?? On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:16 PM, William Warero <wwarero(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Alvin. > > > > Kindly asking how you came into possession of the attached document, what > your thoughts are about it and its viability. > > > > I happen to be the creator of the document. > > > > Thanks. > > > > William Warero > > > > From: skunkworks-bounces(a)lists.my.co.ke > [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of Alvin Jason Ochieng > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:42 AM > To: Skunkworks Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] OT: WD TV Mini > > > > angalia mwenyewe

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Urgent-Lenovo Service Centre
by tech newbie 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi All, Does anyone know where i can find an authorised Lenovo service centre in Nairobi urgently? Thanks

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Apple applies for patent to kill Jailbroken devices
by Brian Munyao Longwe 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Interesting read - but would a patent granted in the USA apply across /into other jurisdictions? I foresee a slew of lawsuits against Apple including the possibility of class action if they pursue this matter.... http://bit.ly/bM4Nft Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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NetBackup
by henry kamabi 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

hi. Anyone who done Symantic backup solution for a network capacity of 49 users? Could any one advice of a better opensource solution. I need to backup Word,pdf docs for windows Xp users daily. Its talkable. Regards, henry 0738193081 On 8/21/10, martin chege <mcnjoroge(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > Hope you are keeping well. Is there anyone who has attempted this exam > *RHS333 > Red Hat Enterprise Security: Network Services. would like to know how to go > about it. thanks.* > * > * > *Regards,* > * > * > *Martin Chege* > *Network Engineer* > *Stanchart Bank* >

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Hon. Kikwete's Official Campaign Website
by David Mugo 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Guys, The official Hon. President Jakaya Kikwete's official campaign website just went live on http://www.kikwete2010.co.tz - Let me hear comments from skunks! -- ------------- David Mugo, ICT & E-Commerce Consultant, http://majibu.com Twitter: @raidarmax

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Content thread on http://blog.my.co.ke : Learning Windows 7- Introduction
by aki 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Posted over the weekend. http://blog.my.co.ke

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Remove me from the mailing list
by Okech 23 Aug '10

23 Aug '10

Hi, Please remove me from the skunkworks mailing list Regards, Okech JMMy blog

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CCK New Rates, Zain Late Night Calls and Safaricom's Long Arm
by Theus Owicho 22 Aug '10

22 Aug '10

Guys I think we have more Late night calls http://bit.ly/dx16ci On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I'm told by several people that Zain sim cards are getting scarce...e.g. in > Eldoret it was hard to get one as of Friday. I also heard reports of other > vendors hiking the sim card price up to 200 bob due to scarcity. Could > anyone corroborate this? > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Good Joomla Experienced Developer Needed
by Jac 21 Aug '10

21 Aug '10

Hi There I am looking for an experienced Joomla Developer who can develop a Directory Website. He must have done such projects in the past. Please contact me via email on jack.gathoni(a)gmail.com Regards -- Jackson Gathoni

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Linux Exam
by martin chege 21 Aug '10

21 Aug '10

Hi all, Hope you are keeping well. Is there anyone who has attempted this exam *RHS333 Red Hat Enterprise Security: Network Services. would like to know how to go about it. thanks.* * * *Regards,* * * *Martin Chege* *Network Engineer* *Stanchart Bank*

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Kipokezi, another Safaricom service in partnership with ForgetMeNot - http://bit.ly/bbEoKT
by Mbugua Njihia 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

I am curious to know what you guys think of this service J Kipokezi, another Safaricom service in partnership with ForgetMeNot - http://bit.ly/bbEoKT

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offtopic : theft of fuel @ donholm petrol station
by Peter Muchemi 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

The fuel attendants at caltex donholm have been stealing customers fuel for some time but now they have become very bold. After a car or a motor bike fuels a low amount (<500), they don't hook the pump properly and so it does not initialize to zero. When the next car parks for fueling and the driver is not attentive, they will start fueling from 300 or so and after the customer leave, they share the difference. One guy will be asking how much to fuel while another will be holding the pump to distract the victim. It has now become a normal occurrence. Today I had to tell them off. "To look for another job if the current one is not able to enable them do honest work". I suspect that the same may be happening to many other stations. Ladies are especially vulnerable as they are not keen to look at the pump readings from start to finish! -- Regards http://www.software.co.ke

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Telkom Wars | The latest updates.
by [ Brainiac ] 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Essar has lowered its rates to Ksh 3 too, sms at 50ct across the board. http://bit.ly/98JC34 -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Redington & Dell & Alienware
by Peter Karunyu 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Today's Nation, page 11, "...Dell, has appointed Redington as a distributor for East Africa..." Then hapo chini, in small print, "Alienware Laptops" Does this mean I can walk into a shop in town and walk out with the M11x? Anyone know more?

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Robocon 2010
by David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

I have just watched on KBC clips of RoboCon 2010, a robotics conference that took place at the Bomas of Kenya sponsored by the Ministry of Higher Eduction alongside the Japanese government. How did we miss the heads up of that event on skunks? >From the looks for it there were amazing solutions on display, that was one impressive show .. Concerned Kiania -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon

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Freelance designer needed-jquery, css fixes on a template
by Martin Njuguna 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

I need a designer who can do some changes to an existing template, today Get in touch on email Thanks in advance

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DL320 Processor
by Nicholas Wambugu 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

I am looking for a server processor specs DL320, core 2 duo zion 2.13GHZ Will appreciate if someone can assist Thanks

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IBM T43 Motherboard
by amugambi＠jambo.co.ke 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Skunks, I am looking for a working IBM T43 Mother Board. Contact me off-list. ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"

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Laptop repair
by Brian Ngure 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Anyone know a (cheap) place in westlands where a laptop could repaired? A baby threw up on the keyboard [?] -- Regards Brian Ngure

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HP DL320 Processor
by Nicholas Wambugu 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Sorry forgot to indicate it's a HP make and mistyped error xion corrected I am looking for a server processor specs HP DL320, core 2 duo xion 2.13GHZ Will appreciate if someone can assist Thanks

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OT: WD TV Mini
by Brian Ngure 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Anyone know where I might get this locally? http://www.wdc.com/en/products/Products.asp?DriveID=681 -- Regards Brian Ngure

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How to differentiate your telco.lessons for Zain, Orange, Yu and any other chap trying to play catch up - http://bit.ly/ctVJNH
by Mbugua Njihia 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

How to differentiate your telco.lessons for Zain, Orange,Yu and any other chap trying to play catch up - http://bit.ly/ctVJNH

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Re: [Skunkworks] Drupal job module
by George m 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Thanks Mugo

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Exciting innovation opportunity in Uganda with the UN
by Daudi Were 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

Exciting opportunity with the UN in Uganda for a techie: http://www.unops.org/_layouts/scripts/GetVAFile.aspx?id=4781 -- Pamoja e:daudi.were@gmail.com <e%3Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com> skype: d.were

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Increased growth
by Steve Obbayi 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

@Joyce let me put it like this. I am not in Kenya, here we kinda do a lot online from paying utility bills, to banking, to shopping. Personally I read a lot (tech books)and at times my first instinct when I hear of a good book i go online maybe amazon, barns n noble etc, place an order and wait for it to be delivered to my door. If I am throwing out wild cards and not sure which "next book to buy" then I most probably dash over to Barnes n Noble and brush through and see what I like. N'way bout facebook, i cannot see the Ads you guys see in Kenya, My Facebook serves me local Ads (basically Florida), I love scuba diving so most of my ads are all about diving in the florida keys, cozumel etc, So for me there's no telling what ads pop up on your end. About fashion, actually My two current web based projects this year are e-commerce fashion websites which as a matter of fact are being built from scratch based on an Engine I have developed.. of course they basically accept paypal and credit card payments... no M-pesa, Zap mambo jambo coz those are irrelevant on this end. Am not authorized to distribute the link yet but here is one older project www.dillonave.com I did late last year with early versions of the Engine. Fashion is not the next big online product here. Fashion has been online here since for ever. So again I dont know what the Kenya scene is like now. My point is this, if I had something in mind to know what trends are out there, this list gives me an idea of what is on the ground... so say if I have this big idea I wanna share and partner with kalahari, or say a venture capitalist from here (and they are many), you would need to give straight informtion and that means proper projections, correct numbers, credible data and so on and all. Coz surprisingly you say you move millions of products a month? I know my maths... (funny thing is my bain enjoys processing numbers) thats definitely Bull. Here's why... To successfully sell a product am guesing minimumim 4 page views. assuming every user purchases two items (this is being generous) (1,000,000/4)/2 that is... 125,000 unique visitors a month. remember a good chunk of this will be one time visitors lets look at page views. if 10% of page views generate sales then 1,000,000*10 millon page views or closer to 100,000,000 hits a month. to get that kind of genuine traffic, you will attract a bit of mischief from east block counties and hacking attempts so lets double the traffic to cater for all that... Wow 20 million page views... or 200 million hits...... So now I am thinking.... Dedicated Servers, Database scaling, Security, Performance etc on the technology side Distribting millions of products door to door... thats a serious logistic problem there... how many packages can a delivery guy distribute in a day, consider traffic jams, packaging blah blah. hmmm I wonder. DO YOU NOW SEE WHY MY BRAIN IS ITCHING? So for me its not about how many e-commerce sites there are in kenya, frankly we need as much as we can get but all I want is to know a true figure of the volumes of products moved and how the technology to process high volumes and the logistics including human resources... stuff like that. Its not the revenue I am interested in. Coz when you guarantee 5 days shipping and you sell millions a month, you had better be knowing what you are doing. Steve Obbayi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Lukwiya" <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 3:20:49 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Increased growth @steve obbayi The e-commerce space in kenya is expanding a lot of business are opting to sell their products online. Just a look at some of the ads in facebook you realize that fashion is next big online product. The competition is good, more players, more choice for the consumer and of course the different payment options (mpesa, zap, pesa pal, credit cards). Other new sites in the e-commerce space www.nimepata.com , http://aceimagestrategies.com . On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, [ Brainiac ] < arebacollins(a)gmail.com > wrote: kalahari gets about 5,724 pageviews a day. thats like 150k pageviews a month. I doubt they can move a million cause that would imply selling about five items on each pageview. It is an impressive figure though. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Willie Ong'uti < williexm(a)gmail.com > wrote: @Albert, I have tried mzoori.com and actually u need to register to access. The upside is that the registration doesn't require much details (about 3 things). Plus there is no delay with confirmation of stuff like emails. I accessed the registration through this link http://www.mzoori.com/iam Or better still i have sent you a 'mzoori Invite' :-) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: As @Willie has put it, @Joyce where do you think you fare with your competition and how do you compare with other global e-commerce websites in terms of volume of product and NOT pricing of products? Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Ong'uti" < williexm(a)gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Kalahari.co.ke Hi Joyce, Thats commendable, i just wanted to know how you are fairing on with the competition from ecommerce portals like www.mzoori.com . I got this link from facebook www.mzoori.com/iam On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Joyce Lukwiya < lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com > wrote: @steve yes we actually move these products, books are the biggest movers on Kalahari at the moment. As I said you check out our prices. Joyce On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: @Joyce, You've said all this about kalahari.co.ke including offering millions of books, music DVD's etc.... really???? In short you havent answered the question on whether you have the critical mass from Kenya or East Africa for that matter.... Just want clarification. So! Do you actually move these "millions of products a Quarter, let alone a month"? Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Lukwiya" < lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:48:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Kalahari.co.ke Hi John, I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke . Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA , door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. Joyce Lukwiya Online Shop Manager Kalahari On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina < mwasjunior(a)gmail.com > wrote: I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? 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OT: Midnight conversations
by [ Brainiac ] 20 Aug '10

20 Aug '10

To get us started, an ice breaker.. well, two actually. Then onto real business. shortly aftr this break. -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Internet Acess quotes
by maina 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

My client who has a small cyber cafe(less than 10 comps) in Banana, Kiambu want to migrate to a new service provider for the said service, if you have solutions or know someone who is able to supply kindly send quote ASAP. Thanks. Maina.

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CCNP
by Dennis Kioko 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

thanks. but was more interested in examination centres

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Re: [Skunkworks] Drupal job module
by George m 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Thanks Dennis

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inZain tarrif
by Gichingiri Kuria 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Good morning all, just got this text from Zain: NEW TARIFF! Call for only Kshs 3 and SMS for only Ksh 1 to any network in Kenya 24 hours a day. No terms & conditions. Only from the strongest network in Kenya! -- Gichingiri Kuria _________________________________________ www.website.co.ke / www.sokoletu.co.ke

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New topic - HORDE web mail
by Marwan Najm 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Morning People, Is any one using horde as webmail? Need advice and configuration hints for outlook client Asante. MN

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Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Come on man. Its only a day after the offer. This had not been planned. I really dont believe that. Or even if its true it has been blown out of propotion (by a great deal!) -----Original Message----- From: ndungu stephen Sent: 19/08/2010, 4:02 pm To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes Ok, Lets look at the scenario more critically.... Lets us say there are some billionaires who wants to build a huge complex, they come to your architectural firm for you guys to design for them the complex. Your architectural firm conducts the estimates and says the plans will cost 14million KES. Meanwhile, another group of Riveroad architectures ('riveroad is used as a pun) - gets wind of the news that the billionaires want some designs done - and make an offer to draw the designs at "Ksh. 200,000". The first architectural firm has about 50 employees, and most of them graduates of diplomas or degrees earning a regular high salary. The Riveroad firm will pull some old design and hire a guy on about 50k contract. (am not comparing Zain to this firm, am just citing the way prices are driven down) == Safcom is pissed because they probably believe in the above anectodal. Again " http://cio.co.ke/view-all-main-stories/1615-zain-accuses-safaricom-of-unfai… "

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Mythbusters! Safaricom had blocked zain calls...
by [ Brainiac ] 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

given that the rumour is making rounds everywhere,and that today is my off day, and im desperately in need of something intelligent to do, and since am moving to zain permanently, i am donating my number for this experiment. Call me from a Zain number, if it goes through, Ill log it, if it does not, you log it. Valid for the next thirty minutes: 3:45 -> 4:45 0720516758 all the best. -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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NTT Makes An Offer to Acquire Dimension Data
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

NTT Makes An Offer to Acquire Dimension Data July 15 2010 – Nippon Telegraph and Telephone Corporation (“NTT”), one of the largest global telecommunications service providers and Dimension Data Holdings Plc (“Dimension Data”), a global specialist IT services and solutions provider, today announced that they have reached agreement on the terms of a cash offer to be made by NTT http://www.dimensiondata.com/rgn/ke/Pages/Home.aspx

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Intel Acquires McAfee
by Philip Musyoki 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Some interesting news. http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/19/intel-acquires-mcafee-for-7-68-billion/.

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Re: [Skunkworks] Mythbusters! Safaricom had blocked zain calls... CLOSED!
by [ Brainiac ] 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Thanks guys, this thread is now closed. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:27 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think this myth is Totally busted, > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:26 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> 0734......36 >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:10 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Busted 0738...67 >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 4:02 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Very busted 0734.....47 >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:59 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Busted, >>>>> >>>>> received you sir/madam 0737...66 >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 3:54 PM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> given that the rumour is making rounds everywhere,and that today is my >>>>>> off day, and im desperately in need of something intelligent to do, >>>>>> and since am moving to zain permanently, i am donating my number for >>>>>> this experiment. Call me from a Zain number, if it goes through, Ill >>>>>> log it, if it does not, you log it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Valid for the next thirty minutes: 3:45 -> 4:45 >>>>>> >>>>>> 0720516758 >>>>>> >>>>>> all the best. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Posted on 100% recycled electrons >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Posted on 100% recycled electrons >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Posted on 100% recycled electrons >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Posted on 100% recycled electrons >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Posted on 100% recycled electrons >> > > > > -- > Posted on 100% recycled electrons > -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Drupal job module
by George m 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Hi, Anyone out there who knows about job module for drupal George

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SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by ndungu stephen 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

If this is actually true .... This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant make no calls across.. And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them if they are not affecting the overall network performance ??? Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by themselves... Can anyone confirm this ??

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Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

If I get you right: resources can become almost suddenly utilized. Using your example: 6 E1s those are (6 x 32 = 192 timeslots available for voice minus a few that are used up by signalling) this was dimentioned by planning by both zain and safcom according to the need of the time. Now if calls suddenly increase from about 100 per min to 1000 due to lower tarrifs of course calls will start dropping almost immediately. Then again it wouldnt have made any businness sence for zain to call up safcom to upgrade the interconnect links before the offer launch since the info would have leaked out. -----Original Message----- From: pithon kamau Sent: 19/08/2010, 3:48 pm To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes Hi, The network has not been blocked, i can call across to any network Regards On 8/19/10, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If this is actually true .... > > > This is the most unfair and anti competitive underhanded tactic - i cant > make no calls across.. > > > And in truth - there really is no harm to safcom cos if they have e.g 6 E1s > dedicated to calls from Zain , and these E1s are not full - why block them > if they are not affecting the overall network performance ??? > > Its not like more calls are suddenly going to hog extra E1s or resources by > themselves... > > > Can anyone confirm this ?? > -- Pithon K. Kamau Mobile: 0723 588705 / 0733 686562 Tel: +254 20 8083989 Website: www.heartbitsolutions.com Blog: www.pithonkamau.com Website Design, Domain Registration, Website Hosting, Corporate Email Solutions, Website Maintainance, Website Marketing, Logo Design and Branding, Bulk SMS Solutions, Computer Hardware and Maintainance, Network Design and Set Up............. "Love Your Neighbour as You Love Yourself" _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Am not stopping anyone from posting a problem. (In this case network related.) all am advocating for is that any analysis of the problem or subsequent discussions let it remain tech like, no need to bring in a social aspect to it.... So that even if a new user comes to it he/she can learn something and be able to relate to that problem in a technical perspective. -----Original Message----- From: aki Sent: 19/08/2010, 3:09 pm To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes @cheez.mode, it is nice to finally hear from you and it is even better that you know telcos that well to know the trunks will be sorted in a day or two. You and some others were complaining about Content on this list, including labelling it as S***t. Upon my return from SA, I decided to try and help change the content to better the community needs. Since I had strong passion for skunks ke getting somewhere, I took this task quite seriously and put in a lot of personal time and effort, including the risk of mis-understandings that cropped up with fellow skunk buddies whom I've never had any issues with and have deep respect for. There is much that took place but now all in the past. I could have so easily walked away from this list and the community but I still have the hope that skunks ke will go somewhere someday. Time and money does not grow on trees. There are many lists and tech communities I can join out there but ke has been on my priority list. I have repeatedly written that we are responsible for killing content. Why are you stopping fellow skunkers from talking about network problems or issues they are facing? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Data recovery
by Jacob Odada 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Need to do data recovery for Windows server that has crashed. Which company can anyone propose? Proven track record please

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Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Really guys? Safcom blocking zain calls? Even if you hate safcom, this is taking it too far . Its a simple matter of expanding interconnection trunks on BOTH sides since both sides are ovewhelmed by the sudden increase in MO and MT traffic -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng Sent: 19/08/2010, 1:12 pm To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes Calls to Telkom too?? On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Perhaps for once Zain was congested? > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, ndungu stephen <ndungustephen(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> I called the zain customer care immediately upon failing on several >> attempts - and the person on the other end said that "safcom" had blocked >> their calls.. and they reported the matter to CCK.. >> >> I am not sure I was supposed to know this :-) . >> >> Anyway, i think it should be fixed now - hoping it was congestion and not >> a block... >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > -- > With Regards, > > Phares Kariuki > > | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: > kariukiphares | > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

@ Alvin, call 200 and ask what? '' have you blocked calls to zain?'' what o you think the answere will be? Probably ''thank you for calling safaricom sir, but actually its Zain who have blocked our outbound calls to their network and we have asked cck to investigate'' -----Original Message----- From: Alvin Jason Ochieng Sent: 19/08/2010, 2:10 pm To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes Timothy call 200 on safcom On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Timothy Kyalo <this.gizmo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > @Cheez.mode > I really think No operator can intentionally block a POI.... > > @Alvin > Url please.. > > On 19 August 2010 14:00, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I hear that suffericon have reduced their prices on Superongea tarrif >> to 3bob..but we still want it across networks......the power of >> zain...may the battles continue... >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:58 PM, cheez.mode(a)gmail.com >> <cheez.mode(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > Really guys? Safcom blocking zain calls? Even if you hate safcom, this >> > is taking it too far . >> > Its a simple matter of expanding interconnection trunks on BOTH sides >> > since both sides are ovewhelmed by the sudden increase in MO and MT traffic >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Alvin Jason Ochieng >> > Sent: 19/08/2010, 1:12 pm >> > To: Skunkworks Mailing List >> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so >> > the saying goes >> > >> > >> > Calls to Telkom too?? >> > >> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Phares Kariuki <pkariuki(a)gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> Perhaps for once Zain was congested? >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 1:10 PM, ndungu stephen >> >> <ndungustephen(a)gmail.com> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I called the zain customer care immediately upon failing on several >> >>> attempts - and the person on the other end said that "safcom" had >> >>> blocked >> >>> their calls.. and they reported the matter to CCK.. >> >>> >> >>> I am not sure I was supposed to know this :-) . >> >>> >> >>> Anyway, i think it should be fixed now - hoping it was congestion and >> >>> not >> >>> a block... >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Skunkworks mailing list >> >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >>> ------------ >> >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> >>> ------------ >> >>> Skunkworks Rules >> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >>> ------------ >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> With Regards, >> >> >> >> Phares Kariuki >> >> >> >> | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | >> >> Skype: >> >> kariukiphares | >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Skunkworks mailing list >> >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> >> ------------ >> >> Skunkworks Rules >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> >> ------------ >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> > >> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Skunkworks mailing list >> > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> > >> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> > ------------ >> > Skunkworks Rules >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> > ------------ >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes
by cheez.mode＠gmail.com 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

@ Davis: yeah you do that.. Great idea! And tell them what? I suggest you do some research on how the system is set up and how it works before you do. Otherwise you will look like an idiot! So you really believe the trunks are blocked by safaricom intentionaly? Am sorry but that is being too gulliable and not tekie like thinking. I would not blame my grand me for thinking so, but here I would expect much more. This will take a day or so to sort out. New trunks need to be added and configured on both ends to accomodate extra capacity needed to handle all the traffic. -----Original Message----- From: Davis Waithaka Sent: 19/08/2010, 2:02 pm To: Skunkworks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] SAFARI COM HAS BLOCKED CALLS FROM ZAIN - so the saying goes The calls are still blocked!! wat is the email address to ktn, ntv, citizen, k24? This should be on all the business news tonight!! -- Davis Waithaka <daviswaithaka(a)gmail.com> Systems Kenya Solutions

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Naivas.net
by Joyce Lukwiya 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

@dennis kioko That is interest for a new venture like Naivas, by the way there prices on food commodities are lowest in comparison to the other supermarket chains. Will definitely check it out. On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > interesting Development > > Naivas Supermarket here: http://www.naivas.net/index.php?route=common/home though > i think they could do some improvement on that to increase goods visibilty. > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - The Brgger Picture - Competition
by Joyce Lukwiya 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

@Theus Owicho This is a conversation about E-commerce, instead of being critical look the bigger picture and appreciate the growth of E-commerce. www.mamamikes.com www.uzanunua.com www.nimepata.com http://aceimagestrategies.com For a young industry, I am confident that in the runner up to the Christmass period you will hear of other exciting e-commerce initiatives creating more competition and more choice for consumer. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Theus Owicho <owichot(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I once talked to a guy who used to deal with kalahari.co.ke. First they > took the failure who is Cobus Heyl to head it. Cobus did run down EAM and he > has that arrogance and know it all attitude of people from down south. The > sell now an average of only 30 products in a month. They arent moving even > thousands. > > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> kalahari gets about 5,724 pageviews a day. thats like 150k pageviews a >> month. I doubt they can move a million cause that would imply selling about >> five items on each pageview. >> >> It is an impressive figure though. >> >> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Willie Ong'uti <williexm(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> @Albert, >>> >>> I have tried mzoori.com and actually u need to register to access. The >>> upside is that the registration doesn't require much details (about 3 >>> things). Plus there is no delay with confirmation of stuff like emails. >>> I accessed the registration through this link http://www.mzoori.com/iam >>> Or better still i have sent you a 'mzoori Invite' :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve(a)sobbayi.com> wrote: >>> >>>> As @Willie has put it, @Joyce where do you think you fare with your >>>> competition and how do you compare with other global e-commerce websites in >>>> terms of volume of product and NOT pricing of products? >>>> >>>> >>>> Steve Obbayi >>>> >>>> SKYPE: sobbayi >>>> http://sobbayi.com >>>> http://blog.sobbayi.com >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Willie Ong'uti" <williexm(a)gmail.com> >>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke >>>> >>>> Hi Joyce, >>>> Thats commendable, i just wanted to know how you are fairing on with the >>>> competition from ecommerce portals like www.mzoori.com. I got this link >>>> from facebook www.mzoori.com/iam >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Joyce Lukwiya <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> @steve yes we actually move these products, books are the biggest >>>>> movers on Kalahari at the moment. As I said you check out our prices. >>>>> >>>>> Joyce >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve(a)sobbayi.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> @Joyce, You've said all this about kalahari.co.ke including offering >>>>>> millions of books, music DVD's etc.... really???? In short you havent >>>>>> answered the question on whether you have the critical mass from Kenya or >>>>>> East Africa for that matter.... Just want clarification. So! Do you actually >>>>>> move these "millions of products a Quarter, let alone a month"? >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Obbayi >>>>>> >>>>>> SKYPE: sobbayi >>>>>> http://sobbayi.com >>>>>> http://blog.sobbayi.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Joyce Lukwiya" <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com> >>>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:48:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke<http://Kalahari.co..ke> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi John, >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of >>>>>> books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. >>>>>> >>>>>> With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA >>>>>> , door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free >>>>>> gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! >>>>>> >>>>>> We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. >>>>>> >>>>>> Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joyce Lukwiya >>>>>> >>>>>> Online Shop Manager >>>>>> >>>>>> Kalahari >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina <mwasjunior(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant >>>>>>> e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and >>>>>>> lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been >>>>>>> solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all >>>>>>> experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>>> ------------ >>>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co...ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing >>>>>> list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other >>>>>> services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>>> >>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>> >>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other >>>> services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>> >>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Posted on 100% recycled electrons >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Increased growth
by Joyce Lukwiya 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

@steve obbayi The e-commerce space in kenya is expanding a lot of business are opting to sell their products online. Just a look at some of the ads in facebook you realize that fashion is next big online product. The competition is good, more players, more choice for the consumer and of course the different payment options (mpesa, zap, pesa pal, credit cards). Other new sites in the e-commerce space www.nimepata.com, http://aceimagestrategies.com. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com>wrote: > kalahari gets about 5,724 pageviews a day. thats like 150k pageviews a > month. I doubt they can move a million cause that would imply selling about > five items on each pageview. > > It is an impressive figure though. > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Willie Ong'uti <williexm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> @Albert, >> >> I have tried mzoori.com and actually u need to register to access. The >> upside is that the registration doesn't require much details (about 3 >> things). Plus there is no delay with confirmation of stuff like emails. >> I accessed the registration through this link http://www.mzoori.com/iam >> Or better still i have sent you a 'mzoori Invite' :-) >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve(a)sobbayi.com> wrote: >> >>> As @Willie has put it, @Joyce where do you think you fare with your >>> competition and how do you compare with other global e-commerce websites in >>> terms of volume of product and NOT pricing of products? >>> >>> >>> Steve Obbayi >>> >>> SKYPE: sobbayi >>> http://sobbayi.com >>> http://blog.sobbayi.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Willie Ong'uti" <williexm(a)gmail.com> >>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke >>> >>> Hi Joyce, >>> Thats commendable, i just wanted to know how you are fairing on with the >>> competition from ecommerce portals like www.mzoori.com. I got this link >>> from facebook www.mzoori.com/iam >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Joyce Lukwiya <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> @steve yes we actually move these products, books are the biggest movers >>>> on Kalahari at the moment. As I said you check out our prices. >>>> >>>> Joyce >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve(a)sobbayi.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Joyce, You've said all this about kalahari.co.ke including offering >>>>> millions of books, music DVD's etc.... really???? In short you havent >>>>> answered the question on whether you have the critical mass from Kenya or >>>>> East Africa for that matter.... Just want clarification. So! Do you actually >>>>> move these "millions of products a Quarter, let alone a month"? >>>>> >>>>> Steve Obbayi >>>>> >>>>> SKYPE: sobbayi >>>>> http://sobbayi.com >>>>> http://blog.sobbayi.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Joyce Lukwiya" <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:48:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke<http://Kalahari.co..ke> >>>>> >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> >>>>> I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke. >>>>> >>>>> Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of >>>>> books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. >>>>> >>>>> With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA , >>>>> door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free >>>>> gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! >>>>> >>>>> We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. >>>>> >>>>> Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. >>>>> >>>>> Joyce Lukwiya >>>>> >>>>> Online Shop Manager >>>>> >>>>> Kalahari >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina <mwasjunior(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant >>>>>> e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and >>>>>> lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been >>>>>> solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all >>>>>> experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>>> >>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co...ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other >>>>> services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>> >>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>> >>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other >>> services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Posted on 100% recycled electrons > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Expansion of "M-Pesa" Wikipedia Article -Small Cash Incentive
by Dennis Kioko 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

In an effort to boost academic references and material in the country, I will be offering a Kenya Shillings 500 cash incentive to any one who researches and expands the M-Pesa article on wikipedia at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-Pesa. The initiative targets mostly university students. As such to qualify for the money, you have to log in and do the edits under your username so that we are able to verify you as the author. The recipient should bring the article to the standard of normal Wikipedia articles. As such, a majority of skunks must reasonably agree that the effort deserves the cash award. Recipients must not work for Safaricom or be related to Safaricom (or their competitors) in any way (doesn't apply to subscribers) either currently or in the past. In short, there must be reasonable degree of unbiasedness. If a guarantee of payment is required, I can deposit the money with Phares Kariuki as an Escrow. Hope the Terms are not ambigous since we can have them running for pages. -- with Regards: Ken Kasina, a renowned Kenya Developer and contributer to PC-BSD Kernel gives his views on Linux, Open Source & Developers http://www.cio.co.ke/index.php/view-all-analysis-items/1417-local-software-…

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Android encrypted mail for snoopy governments
by Dennis Kioko 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

For governments that are becoming too snoopy on your blackberry , you can use this app on your Android: http://bit.ly/bDRqp5 -- with Regards: sitting next to engineers can have some positive feedback: http://gramware.blogspot.com/2010/08/positive-feedback.html

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Mail Server opinions
by George Njoroge 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Hey guys, I would like to set up a mail server that should be quite easy to scale. I initially had Sendmail in mind but upon some digging guys out there opt for Postfix or even better QMail. I need to know which is the best MTA application to use for factors like security management, spam handling, capacity handling, server resource utilization, management etc and can you incoorperate multiple accounts on different domains? Regards TheMburu -- Conservatism is the adherence to the old tried against the new untried.

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For the Telecomms Experts
by Odhiambo Washington 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

I have encountered a situation while configuring a PBX. The client has analog (prepaid) phone lines from TKL and for them to dial out they have to dial 0845 then wait to be prompted to dial the desired number. My problem stems from the fact that when this is done with digital phones, the number dialed after the 0845 does not show at all on the phone display and as such, the users at the extns have no way to redial! I have tried to configure a feature code/short code in the PBX (Avaya IP Office) to circumvent this, by, say, dial 9 with some few secs wait, but I simply can't get around it. Anyone dealt with a similar scenario before and can share how they solved the problem? -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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What is money grew on trees - http://bit.ly/ce7wWF
by Mbugua Njihia 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

I wonder what wud happen in Nairobi http://bit.ly/ce7wWF

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Largest outdoor multimedia screen network
by Mbugua Njihia 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

Whose got this the largest outdoor multimedia screen network in Nairobi? Looking to try out some concept

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke
by Steve Obbayi 19 Aug '10

19 Aug '10

@Theus just a question, so why would they claim to be moving millions of products a month... of course i knew that was no right.... but makes you wonder... Steve Obbayi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theus Owicho" <owichot(a)gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:48:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke I once talked to a guy who used to deal with kalahari.co.ke . First they took the failure who is Cobus Heyl to head it. Cobus did run down EAM and he has that arrogance and know it all attitude of people from down south. The sell now an average of only 30 products in a month. They arent moving even thousands. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, [ Brainiac ] < arebacollins(a)gmail.com > wrote: kalahari gets about 5,724 pageviews a day. thats like 150k pageviews a month. I doubt they can move a million cause that would imply selling about five items on each pageview. It is an impressive figure though. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Willie Ong'uti < williexm(a)gmail.com > wrote: @Albert, I have tried mzoori.com and actually u need to register to access. The upside is that the registration doesn't require much details (about 3 things). Plus there is no delay with confirmation of stuff like emails. I accessed the registration through this link http://www.mzoori.com/iam Or better still i have sent you a 'mzoori Invite' :-) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: As @Willie has put it, @Joyce where do you think you fare with your competition and how do you compare with other global e-commerce websites in terms of volume of product and NOT pricing of products? Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie Ong'uti" < williexm(a)gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Kalahari.co.ke Hi Joyce, Thats commendable, i just wanted to know how you are fairing on with the competition from ecommerce portals like www.mzoori.com . I got this link from facebook www.mzoori.com/iam On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Joyce Lukwiya < lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com > wrote: @steve yes we actually move these products, books are the biggest movers on Kalahari at the moment. As I said you check out our prices. Joyce On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Steve Obbayi < steve(a)sobbayi.com > wrote: @Joyce, You've said all this about kalahari.co.ke including offering millions of books, music DVD's etc.... really???? In short you havent answered the question on whether you have the critical mass from Kenya or East Africa for that matter.... Just want clarification. So! Do you actually move these "millions of products a Quarter, let alone a month"? Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Lukwiya" < lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" < skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:48:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya - Kalahari.co.ke Hi John, I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke . Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA , door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. Joyce Lukwiya Online Shop Manager Kalahari On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina < mwasjunior(a)gmail.com > wrote: I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? John _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co....ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co...ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co...ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co...ke -- http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Microsoft to release IE9 public beta on Sept. 15
by michael wambua 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Only a minority of Windows users will be able to try the beta because of Microsoft's *no-IE9-for-XP policy * *weeeee!* gates....si 68% of windows users use *xp*...kwenda, theres chrome and Firefox.... shindwe -- Michael Wambua +254 712710697 info(a)michaelwambua.com www.michaelwambua.com

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job opening
by michael wambua 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

*Enterprise espionage engineer (black ops)* Seeking slippery individuals comfortable with lying, cheating, stealing, breaking, and entering for penetration testing of enterprise networks. Requirements include familiarity with hacking, malware, and forgery; must be able to plausibly impersonate a pest control specialist or a fire marshal. Please submit rap sheet along with resume.

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke
by Steve Obbayi 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

@Joyce, You've said all this about kalahari.co.ke including offering millions of books, music DVD's etc.... really???? In short you havent answered the question on whether you have the critical mass from Kenya or East Africa for that matter.... Just want clarification. So! Do you actually move these "millions of products a Quarter, let alone a month" ? Steve Obbayi SKYPE: sobbayi http://sobbayi.com http://blog.sobbayi.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joyce Lukwiya" <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:48:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke Hi John, I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke . Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA , door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. Joyce Lukwiya Online Shop Manager Kalahari On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina < mwasjunior(a)gmail.com > wrote: I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? John _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co..ke _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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SilverLight journey begins....
by The Ice Man 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Hey people on SilverLight in KE About 2-3 weeks ago, the game dev journey led me to SilverLight4 as a platform so I bought some ebooks to read on while with no impact on changing course. Anyway, while looking at the pre-requisites of SilverLight4, it seems to fully understand it, I'll be going through asp.net, ajax, xml, sql, java, atom etc. which takes me away from possible game dev and into possible web dev. A big positive is that I can finally consider implementing my content, portal ideas and sites which have been lying idle for a while. Its a long road ahead and if anyone has some exposure on SilverLight platform your adv would be appreciated. I've googled ( and msdn too ) everyting I needed to get started so am pretty comfortable there but it'd be nice to hear from those on the platform already. Else, catchup soon. :-) Rgds.

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Looking for KnowledgeGuy(Resource-Person): Mobile Commerce in Kenya
by Jared Koyier 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

A high value associate of mine is looking for industry info on M-Commerce in Kenya, ranging from legislative & regulatory requirements, current players and their high level business models,role of telcos & banks, CCK & CBK roles etc. If you play in this league and wouldn't mind networking and potential consultancy contract, let me know. Also if you can point me to the right direction, much appreciated Cheers

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[skunkworkslist] test
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

test -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:17:00 AM

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Bookworm.co.ke
by Axe Labs 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

www.bookworm.co.ke Only the best selling books in Nairobi and the World Yap yap...All true but Kenyans wont pay before they see the good. Best Payment option for kenyans is *COD* and after they have seen and touched and verified the good otherwise they are very careful about MPESA/ZAP prior to delivery. www.bookworm.co.ke Only the best selling books in Nairobi and the World On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:15 AM, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com>wrote: > kalahari gets about 5,724 pageviews a day. thats like 150k pageviews a > month. I doubt they can move a million cause that would imply selling about > five items on each pageview. > > It is an impressive figure though. > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Willie Ong'uti <williexm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> @Albert, >> >> I have tried mzoori.com and actually u need to register to access. The >> upside is that the registration doesn't require much details (about 3 >> things). Plus there is no delay with confirmation of stuff like emails. >> I accessed the registration through this link http://www.mzoori.com/iam >> Or better still i have sent you a 'mzoori Invite' :-) >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve(a)sobbayi.com> wrote: >> >>> As @Willie has put it, @Joyce where do you think you fare with your >>> competition and how do you compare with other global e-commerce websites in >>> terms of volume of product and NOT pricing of products? >>> >>> >>> Steve Obbayi >>> >>> SKYPE: sobbayi >>> http://sobbayi.com >>> http://blog.sobbayi.com >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Willie Ong'uti" <williexm(a)gmail.com> >>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:15:03 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke >>> >>> Hi Joyce, >>> Thats commendable, i just wanted to know how you are fairing on with the >>> competition from ecommerce portals like www.mzoori.com. I got this link >>> from facebook www.mzoori.com/iam >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Joyce Lukwiya <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> @steve yes we actually move these products, books are the biggest movers >>>> on Kalahari at the moment. As I said you check out our prices. >>>> >>>> Joyce >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Steve Obbayi <steve(a)sobbayi.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> @Joyce, You've said all this about kalahari.co.ke including offering >>>>> millions of books, music DVD's etc.... really???? In short you havent >>>>> answered the question on whether you have the critical mass from Kenya or >>>>> East Africa for that matter.... Just want clarification. So! Do you actually >>>>> move these "millions of products a Quarter, let alone a month"? >>>>> >>>>> Steve Obbayi >>>>> >>>>> SKYPE: sobbayi >>>>> http://sobbayi.com >>>>> http://blog.sobbayi.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Joyce Lukwiya" <lukwiyajoyce(a)gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:48:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>>> Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke<http://Kalahari.co..ke> >>>>> >>>>> Hi John, >>>>> >>>>> I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke. >>>>> >>>>> Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of >>>>> books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. >>>>> >>>>> With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA , >>>>> door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free >>>>> gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! >>>>> >>>>> We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. >>>>> >>>>> Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. >>>>> >>>>> Joyce Lukwiya >>>>> >>>>> Online Shop Manager >>>>> >>>>> Kalahari >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina <mwasjunior(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant >>>>>> e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and >>>>>> lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been >>>>>> solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all >>>>>> experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>>> >>>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>>> ------------ >>>>>> Other services @ http://my.co...ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other >>>>> services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>>> >>>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>>> ------------ >>>>> Other services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Skunkworks mailing list >>>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>>> >>>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>>> ------------ >>>> Skunkworks Rules >>>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>>> ------------ >>>> Other services @ http://my.co..ke <http://my.co.ke> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other >>> services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Skunkworks mailing list >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >>> >>> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >>> ------------ >>> Skunkworks Rules >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >>> ------------ >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.mzoori.com - Are you? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet >> >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> > > > > -- > Posted on 100% recycled electrons > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Re: [Skunkworks] Midnight express: The Mombasa Exchange.....
by Michuki Mwangi 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Hi [ Brainiac ] wrote: > please find attached, > top is ikenya, bottom is kenic, and right is google. I cant seem to be > able to mtr to kra.go.ke > > So again, what do these results mean? > It means that you are going through KDN to all networks. Traffic to Ikenya comes to Nairobi (switched at KIXP) and sent down via Safaricom's Business network to Mombasa The same happens for KENIC. It looks like there's a problem reaching KRA via KDN/KIXP so thats going via London :( What does this mean to you if you are an ISP. It means that you are paying International costs for both local and International packets. Thats often not a good business model for sustainability. IXPs lets you connect at peering costs for local packets and you can continue to pay for your International traffic via your upstream provider in this case KDN. I have to say your packet loss is just too high. Regards, Michuki.

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Fwd: BSD vs Linux Appreciate the differences
by Odhiambo Washington 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

I'm glad to share this (BUT NOT AS A FLAME WAR IGNITER< PLEASE), thanks to Paul M. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Paul M <CENSORED(a)gmail.com> Date: Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:28 PM Subject: BSD vs Linux Appreciate the differences To: odhiambo(a)gmail.com Hello Odhiambo! I hope you are not turning this into a flame war for there are zealots on both sides of the OS wars and as this BSDer will tell you there is no end or peace treaty in sight :-) I personally have an affinity for FreeBSD and use it ALWAYS. I am also adept in the OpenBSD security arcana and deploy in hardened security boxes and paranoid settings for ambitious security measures. That's not to say I don't use Linux which I will highly recommend to anyone coming from a Windows environment (UBUNTU for newbies offcourse!). Linux is way ahead in hardware and driver support and not to mention its advances in the X windows and GUI environments make PC or DesktopBSD look quite timid. Speaking of the tech republic article you posted here are my comments: *1. Licences *The article is spot on in identifying the licenses. However GPL a copyleft license while the BSD license a copyfree license differ fundamentally in their utilization.The GPL license is restrictive and in order to ensure the copyleft philosophy is not violated requires that any changes are transmitted to the greatest possible audience whenever shipping or distributing your source code. It also forbids the shipping of binary only code. This can be problematic especially if one wants to ship source code that could be used in confidential or sensitive systems that require a high degree of discretion. The BSD license affords the use of privacy/confidentiality in sensitive systems and in shipping code even using your source code in proprietary application. MacOSX a proprietary operating system uses a BSD license when shipped with Darwin. *2. Control * Linus Torvalds is the benevolent master of the Linux Kernel, he works with a small team of developers to initiate changes in the Linux Kernel. What the article fails to mention is the diversity of the BSD projects; FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD,PCBSD, DragonFlyBSD, Darwin. These projects have different goals; usability, stability,security,portability etc. These projects are decentralized without having any one leader (perhaps with the exception of Theo De Raadt of OpenBSD) calling the shots, they each have a core team of developers and committers who are geographically distributed and share the objectives and vision of the project. Committers usually have read and write access to the source code tree of the respective BSD project and release changes to the tree periodically mostly biannually. As to whether having a benevolent dictator or an autonomous team to lead a project remains debatable. What matters is the quality of the code and objectives each project accomplishes. *3. Kernel Vs Operating System* It is correct that Linux is a kernel and it is shipped in one of several distros. BSDs are complete operating systems and contain many more utilities than a core kernel. What the article fails to explain is the design of the Linux/ BSD kernel; microkernel vs monolithic kernel. I would recommend you read the design and implementation of FreeBSD <http://books.google.co.ke/books?id=RbRQAAAAMAAJ&q=design+and+implementation…>by Marshall Kirk Mackusik and Understanding the Linux Kernel <http://books.google.co.ke/books?id=h0lltXyJ8aIC&printsec=frontcover&dq=linu…>by Daniel Pierre Bovet and Marco Cesati. *4. UNIX-Like * Besides the *NIX platitude "BSD is what you get when a bunch of UNIX hackers sit down to try to port a UNIX system to the PC. Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers sit down and try to write a UNIX system for the PC." The BSDs are direct descendants of the original research UNIX version 6 from AT&T Bell laboratories. The hackers at the University of California at Berkeley heavily modified UNIX6 to include virtual memory management, TCP/IP (Yes! the first implementation of the protocol that changed the way Internet runs was done in Berkeley back 1983),BIND implementation of DNS (Another achievement from Berkeley that transformed the mapping of IP addresses into domain names and vice versa). By the late 80s BSD was such a mature operating system it differed markedly from the UNIX of AT&T. Maybe you may wonder then how come it didn't make waves like Linux? This is because of a lawsuit AT&T brought against Berkeley in 1992 where the former sued the university for IPR infringements do note however the hypocrisy of AT&T in this matter (it had an incestuous relationship with Berkeley as they used a lot of code from the BSD hackers to ship into their products) this suit dragged on for 2 years and was eventually settled out of court in 1994. Linux at this time was making inroads, unlike BSD, Linux is not a direct descendant of UNIX but a clone of UNIX known as MINIX version 3 designed by Andrew Tanenbaum. A lot of work was done to integrate the GNU compiler into MINIX and incorporate MINIX to run on the X86 platform. Because of the openness and wider contribution from hobbyists, users, academics and the open source movement Linux launched into hyperspace and became by far the most successful open source project to-date. BSD did go open source (it never was a closed system as Berkeley distributed the code for free) after the lawsuit (around 1994) but by then IMHO it was too late to make waves like Linux did. The UNIX trademark is owned by the OpenGroup<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Open_Group>. *5. Base System* Here I concur with the tech republic article Linux is an amalgamation of parts: A kernel, userland utilities, packages etc. A kernel by itself is meaningless unless it provides the interfaces and tools needed to interact with it. BSD on the other hand because of its 'source tree' centralized model of development incorporates a kernel with utilities and libraries to make it a complete operating system. Read more on this<http://www.over-yonder.net/%7Efullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux3.php> *6. More On Source* Packages and even the kernel on both BSD and Linux can be compiled from source. However they both fundamentally differ on package management where Linuxes greatly utilise prepackaged binaries and although BSD also uses prepackages, a great deal of third party applications are installed from the ports which allow compilation of packages from the sources. However some distros of Linux e.g Debian-kFreebsd and Slackware do use ports for installation of third party packages. *7. Upgrades *I personally have not upgraded a Linux installation from the source tree. This is not the case with BSD variants as upgrading from the source is sometimes the only option you have available. Still a vast majority of the Linux upgrades I have done is through optic media and FTP upgrades. *8. Bleeding Edge *I disagree with the tech republic author's observation on this one. Like Linux, BSD particularly FreeBSD does involve some bleeding edge version. Usually FreeBSD has a stable and current release. The stable release is either a major or minor upgrade on the source tree. A current release is the latest changes on the source tree which in most cases is done for testing and debugging purposes. Usually it not recommended to use a currrent release. The FreeBSD current release in my opinion in equivalent to a bleeding edge version. *9. Hardware Support *Hands down to Linux. Hardware support and drivers written for Linux is quite impressive. Its true the latest hardware drivers are unlikely to be available for many BSD variants. *10. User Base* I don't agree at all with this observation MAC->Win->Linux->BSD->UNIX. MacOSX runs a modified version of FreeBSD known as Darwin. What is UNIX anyway? BSD is UNIX so is Solaris or HP-UX. Each operating system serves a specific purpose (I luv Windows for games!!!) and such a transition implied by the author is naive at best. Feel free to share my comments on SkunkWorks. All the Best! -- :-) Paul M -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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stuff for sale
by Ericko 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Tellie sony wega - 20k Edifier 2.1 channel - 4k Sofa Bed - 8k Hooola if you need anything

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Pro formas for the supply of Internet services
by Crystal Watley Kigoni 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

The Kibabii Teacher Training College outside of the city of Bungoma is in need of a Internet solution to serve its students. There are approximately 50 computers to be connected. Please send estiates with various internet service speeds. Please address the proforma to the Principal of the school. Asante sana. Crystal -- Crystal "Naliaka" Watley Kigoni Executive Director Voices of Africa for Sustainable Development crystal(a)voicesofafrica.org http://www.voicesofafrica.org/ Twitter: VOA_Crystal Skype: crystal.naliaka Facebook group: Voices of Africa "You must be the change you wish to see" - Gandhi

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Awesome App!!
by Andrew Wachira 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Dear skunks, Check out this Awesome app on app engine: http://numtotext.appspot.com/ -- http://www.chromeexperiments.com

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P2P Wireless Network
by James Maina 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Dear Skunks I'm setting up a p2p link within two sites 20km from each other. I already have masts in place with existing links and so i have line of site and im good to go. How to proceed is the question....do i just get two Wimax routers and radios, point them, and i'm set? Are there CCK issues to consider? I'm not looking at GSM due to data charges. ThanksJames James K. Maina Cell: +254-0721-490933 Email: jameskmaina(a)hotmail.com

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Unlocking N97
by mash lists 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Anyone knows a cheap way of unlocking a Nokia N97? Was bought in UK n T mobile is sort reluctant to assist.

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Monitoring the Performance of ISPs in Kenya
by Nick Wambugu 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Dear ALL, My organisation would like to constantly have data on the performance of ISPs in Kenya. Is there anyone/company that monitors this performance? Can they share this data with us? Regards, Nick Wambugu

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Midnight express: The Mombasa Exchange.....
by [ Brainiac ] 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

something that hit the news unnoticed was the announcement that seacom in conjunction with TESPOK have launched another exchange in the coastal town of Mombasa. I am in kilifi, and most of my traffic goes out, does this mean my packets will not be going through nairobi? i would be very happy if that were the case. someone explain how this works like you would to someone who is still doing comm 101. -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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[skunkworkslist] Re: [skunkworkslist] Re: inZain tarrif
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

@collins do record it and upload while you're at it! :D I believe right now safcom has taken a wait-and-see approach...they must be watching their daily graphs keenly for any unexpected dips. If it's anything substantial, zain will get a reply. This could be in form of their usual time-limited promos to test the waters, though that is still hanging in the air given zain's offer which they say has no T&C applied. I read somewhere (Nation I think) MJ boasting that they could unleash their own EMP i.e. price it at 1 bob per min and kill everyone else. I doubt that would really happen, since voice still commands the biggest chunk of their revenues - even though it has had the most sluggish growth compared to their other revenue segments. They wouldn't want to get their shareholders irritated... All I can say for now is this: Safcom's bullish streak is becoming increasingly difficult to maintain and they had better come up with something radical to keep those numbers up. I strongly doubt their current menu of goodies will provide the same results in the long run. Airtel has just fired the first salvo...who knows how many nukes they have yet to rain... -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:37:00 AM

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[skunkworkslist] Re: Midnight express: The Mombasa Exchange.....
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

On 18 August 2010 01:35, [ Brainiac ] <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> wrote: something that hit the news unnoticed was the announcement that seacom in conjunction with TESPOK have launched another exchange in the coastal town of Mombasa. I am in kilifi, and most of my traffic goes out, does this mean my packets will not be going through nairobi? i would be very happy if that were the case. someone explain how this works like you would to someone who is still doing comm 101. A local internet exchange is only viable and worthwhile based on the number of service providers that connect to it. If your providers connects to the exchange but no other ISP is there, your traffic will never hit the exchange. If your traffic always goes to Nairobi before going international etc, then it appears your provider doesnt aggregate their IP traffic in Mombasa, they are simply sending everything back to Nairobi and then letting the routers in Nairobi decide the path to take to their destination. It would also appear that the international circuits your provider has are layer 2 links mapped all the way to Nairobi. The appropriate design your provider should employ in Mombasa is to setup a complete layer 3 PoP that has a link to the Mombasa exchange, another link directly to their international provider outside Kenya and their link to Nairobi. The link that serves you in Kilifi should also be connected to that layer 3 PoP. This way, when your packets arrive at that PoP, the routers will decide if they are destined for international, local exchange or Nairobi and forward them directly without going to Nairobi and then finding the best route to their destination. -- #TJ -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:46:00 AM

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[skunkworkslist] Re: inZain tarrif
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Maybe they are relying on the anticipated fall of internetwork charges Either way this could be the rise or fall of Zain(nothing in between). But am personally going for a zain line RIGHT NOW -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:22:00 AM

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[skunkworkslist] Re: PRICE WARS: EPISODE II - The Empire strikes...
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

yeah, and the twist is that the strike is timed at around the time there is an impending change of guard. time to see the new, young king's reaction to this outrage. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM, David Njuki <njukey(a)gmail.com> wrote: I think its time to revive this thread, the Galaxy has had peace for a while now but the Reds just had to strike and draw blood. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ 'spɹɐƃǝɹ ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:35:00 AM

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Re: [Skunkworks] PRICE WARS: EPISODE II - The Empire strikes Back
by David Njuki 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

I think its time to revive this thread, the Galaxy has had peace for a while now but the Reds just had to strike and draw blood. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ 'spɹɐƃǝɹ ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp

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[skunkworkslist] Re: PRICE WARS: EPISODE II - The Empire strikes...
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:13 AM, David Njuki <njukey(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think its time to revive this thread, the Galaxy has had peace for a while > now but the Reds just had to strike and draw blood. @Yoda would say " Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? " :-))) _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:33:00 AM

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[skunkworkslist] Re: inZain tarrif
by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

well if its any help @haggai, im planning to make a bonfire of my million safaricom lines. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Haggai Nyang <haggai.nyang(a)gmail.com> wrote: The pundits have spoken! I'll just make myself a pot of coffee, sit back and watch the drama unfold... _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons -- Posted By Open Job List to skunkworkslist at 8/18/2010 10:20:00 AM

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by Open Job List 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

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IT Sales Position.
by Josy Ngatia 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Looking for an IT products sales person. Should have passion for IT sales Should be self motivated Should be able to work without supervision Should be able to also work from home ( hence someone with a laptop is preferable ) Should have a 1year and above in IT sales. Contact off list.

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Joomla Reservation Module
by Calvin Omari 18 Aug '10

18 Aug '10

Hi I am shopping for a good Cheap or open source Hotel Reservation module am looking for suggestions to implement on this website http://www.westcoastvillage.co.ke/ Regards -- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us. Calvin Omari Systems Developer/Designer http://www.facebook.com/barongo

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E-commerce in Kenya
by John Maina 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant e-commerce infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and lack of "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been solved yet we still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all experts is what is hindering e-commerce in Kenya? John

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Email for the truly geeky!! :)
by Andrew Wachira 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

For those who spend considerable time on the command line, here's some good news for you: Read GMail from Mutt<http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=1737&tag=nl.e011> This means you can keep in touch with your favourite mailing list - Skunkworks of course!! :) -- http://www.chromeexperiments.com

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Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 206
by Chris | Ronell Africa 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Does it have to be dell? HP? Around 300k for 8gb 2 HDD's no mouse or monitor Chris: +257 76 91 83 83 -----Original Message----- From: skunkworks-bounces(a)lists.my.co.ke [mailto:skunkworks-bounces@lists.my.co.ke] On Behalf Of skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke Sent: 17 August 2010 3:51 p To: skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke Subject: Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 206 Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke You can reach the person managing the list at skunkworks-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..."

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Re: [Skunkworks] E-commerce in Kenya -Kalahari.co.ke
by Joyce Lukwiya 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Hi John, I believe you have not heard of Kalahari.co.ke. Kalahari.co.ke is a leading online retailer, offering millions of books, music, DVDs, games and more at the click of a mouse. With top-selling products, local payment options which include M-PESA , door-to-door delivery, wish list facilities, vouchers, and free gift-wrapping, kalahari.co.ke offers convenient shopping! We are giving irresistable discount on all our shop categories. Log on to www.kalahari.co.ke and check it out for yourself. Joyce Lukwiya Online Shop Manager Kalahari On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:30 PM, John Maina <mwasjunior(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I used to hypothesis that the reason we don't have a vibrant e-commerce > infrastructure in Kenya was the lack of payment solutions and lack of > "critical mass" of people online..These two problems have been solved yet we > still have nothing on the ground. So my question to y'all experts is what is > hindering e-commerce in Kenya? > > John > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke >

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Dell PowerEgde Rack Server
by Philip Musyoki 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

I am looking for an ideal Dell PowerEdge Rack Server that is easy to setup with an internal RD1000 disk-backup drive and an additional of a minimum of 4 drive bays. I also need something slim (a max of 2U) and environment friendly (in terms of power consumption) but also because where I want to deploy it power is a luxury. 1 or 2 processors would be fine, must be Intel Xeon though. Any ideas. Regards.

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Re: [Skunkworks] Online Masters in Kenya
by Felakut 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

hello Guys, anyone who knows where in kenya i can get an institution offering online masters in MBA and Masters in Information Systems management. thx On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 09:06, Felakut <egmasp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > hello Guys, > > anyone who knows where in kenya i can get an institution offering online > masters in MBA and Masters in Information Systems management. > > thx >

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Cutting Plotter Hands on Trainer
by Eric Mugo 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Hi All, I'm looking for an individual who knows and understands in depth how to operate a cutting plotter. I'm using the Graphtec series of plotter. The individual needs to be a graphic designer as well. This will be a small side job to train my team on how to fully utilize a cutting plotter for a day or two. Kindly contact me offlist if interested or forward to someone who can do it. Regards, Eric Mugo.

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Dear Kenya Data Networks.
by [ Brainiac ] 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Business must be brisk, (judging from the number of active connections on your network)*,* security too must be high in your agenda given the paranoid nature of enforcement on our gateway 10.199.0.1 which has basically blocked all the "bad" ports. Just a reminder to open the "somehow good" ports that allow us to send small packets out there to tell us where websites are since you (10.199.0.1) seem overwhelmed. You have only left port 443 and 80 open, which is fine but since most "bad" users of the net can program their softwares to use the "good" ports, we are now having congestion and WE the good users are locked out of accessing the interweb because our machines are not powerful enough to compete on that small port. Since every time i call they ask me the same questions over and over again, the answers are as follows. 1: yes 2: yes 3: since yesterday 4: it is not responding 5: No 6: No, but i can restart now. 7: Nope, still not working. 8: No IP address, just the fallback IP. 9: Ok, here goes. 00:15:6D:FA:4C:5F for the nanostation and 00:0B:CD:95:61:B1 for my machine. (i usually try telling them the nanostation is bridge mode but responses are varied. ) 10: Ok ill wait. 11: ok, 0720516758 * It really sucks having to call tech support and being told youll be called back and then they dont (and hope you will not be pissed off or that the problem will be sorted out miraculously), but anyway, i use kdn to backup my Orange link (Which is fantastic, never goes down and in the few instances i have had issues has been addressed in real time). * ps: I know some really skilled techies in msa and kilifi who would happily help out supporting your network if you just gave them something geeky, like a 10Mbps fiber termination to their houses. this could easily improve the service levels :-) me thoughts. -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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open source opportunities
by Evans Ikua 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Wanted: LPI training manuals development consultants and Trainers of Trainers for the FOSS Certification pillar of the ict@innovation project Application Deadline is 27th August, 2010. - Are you interested in developing training materials for the Linux Professional institute Certification? - Do you have a solid background in Linux administration and development of user manuals and documentation? - Do you have experience in training others on the LPI, and/or are you part of a training institution? Then respond by 27th August 2010 to become part of an exciting training materials development programme on FOSS Certification, and/or to become one of our trainers of trainers. Background - ict@innovation The ict@innovation programme aims at building capacities for African small and medium ICT enterprises to build a business with Free and Open Source Software (FOSS). The project encourages the growth of African ICT industries, particularly in Southern and East Africa, through three main action lines: spreading FOSS business models for enterprises in Africa, fostering FOSS certification and supporting innovative local FOSS applications for social and economic development. ict@innovation is a partnership between Free Software and Open Source Foundation for Africa (FOSSFA) and InWEnt - Capacity Building International (Germany). Pillar B – Fostering FOSS Certification This pillar of the ict@innovation programme aims to help African SMEs involved in Open source Solutions development, implementation and training to improve the quality of their solutions offering through certification of their FOSS skills. The project partners have appreciated the importance and urgency of increasing the number of certified Linux systems administrators on the African continent so as to have a bigger impact on the uptake of FOSS on the continent. To achieve this, the program will implement the following interventions: - Support the development of open content Linux Professional Institute Certification (LPI) training material. - Offer Training of Trainers to individuals in the participating countries, leading to the LPI exams for certification. - Support the trainers to deliver the LPI training and certification in their countries and institutions as a business model. *LPI* The ict@innovation programme, is looking for African (and global) experts wanting to participate in the development of end user training manuals for the Linux Professional Institute Certification (LPIC-1). We are looking for individuals with experience in the use of the Linux Operating system, as well as with experience in the development of end user training manuals. Our aim is to make use of already existing open licensed materials and modify them to bring them up to date. Once this is done the material will be distributed under the same open content license (GFDL), and put online for our trainers to download and use in their trainings. We will also be offering a series of regional training of trainer workshops, with the first one set for later in the year for the EAST African region. In line with this, we are looking to recruit experienced LPI training consultants who will deliver this training to our training participants. The participants will be selected from individuals who already have some experience using Linux and offering training. ict@innovation may also choose to select one consultant/consulting firm/consortium to work on the two contracts. The application documents including the terms of reference and the formal invitation can be found on this link: http://www.ict-innovation.fossfa.net/node/3323/files/Calls+for+Consultants If interested, please send your application by email to the following addresses indicating availability, to reach them not later than 27th August 2010: george(a)inwent.co.za and copy the following addresses: ikua(a)fossfa.net

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Zeus3 Trojan quietly steals $1m from bank accounts
by Haggai Nyang 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

I'd better look for a box to put my money in at this rate! http://www.techspot.com/news/39949-zeus3-trojan-quietly-steals-1m-from-bank…

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Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 198
by Oluwaseun Ojedeji 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Dear Dennis, I could help with some CCNP jeremy videos(cbt nuggets) and train signal. Though the curriculum has changed but i am pretty sure that the basics still applys, especially for route and switch which is equivalent to bsci and bcmsn respectively. Regards On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:23 AM, <skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to > skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > skunkworks-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. CCNP (Dennis Kioko) > 2. For the Telecomms Experts (Odhiambo Washington) > 3. Re: CCNP (Theus Owicho) > 4. Zeus3 Trojan quietly steals $1m from bank accounts (Haggai Nyang) > 5. Cutting Plotter Hands on Trainer (Eric Mugo) > 6. Re: Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 194 (Oluwaseun Ojedeji) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:51:34 +0300 > From: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi(a)gmail.com> > To: Skunkworks forum <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: [Skunkworks] CCNP > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikzAhhVLFgg5eRbfFGQedf7LfBJfNPFOvxVCJ6N(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does any one know the modality of getting a Cisco CCNP Certification > locally? > > -- > with Regards: > > sitting next to engineers can have some positive feedback: > http://gramware.blogspot.com/2010/08/positive-feedback.html >

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Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 194
by Oluwaseun Ojedeji 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 7:01 AM, <skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to > skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > skunkworks-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: minimum cost for setting a cyber (Solomon Mburu Kamau) > 2. Re: minimum cost for setting a cyber (Solomon Mburu Kamau) > 3. MSSQL - getting time different excluding weekends (Calvin Omari) > 4. Re: Can One Pick a phone Number directly from a wap browser? > (Chris Mwirigi) > 5. Re: MSSQL - getting time different excluding weekends > (Edwin Kaduki) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Dear Solomon, Setting a cybe cafe with your specification, is a good small scale start up. Are you looking at getting branded systems? well i think you can always figure out the cost of computers of your choice. The aspect which we could deliberate on is the networking devices and billing systems. For Networking devices, i will suggest you go for Mikrotik router and Dlink switches but if you can raise a little more funds, go for hp procurve switches, for 10 pcs you could just get a 24port switch. Are you looking at providing wireless services too? for the router you could also consider Vyatta(if cost is major) Billing System: If you will be using mikrotik router, then you have no problem with billing system as mikrotik has quite a good hotspot services with the user manager package installed, you will be printing tickets in no time! Smile.... NB If cost is then a major major issue then go for a link sys router which also has wireless and use any of the widely available billing softwares, chilisoft is ok.... Regards Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:31:33 +0300 > From: Solomon Mburu Kamau <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> > To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Cc: skunkworks(a)my.co.ke > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] minimum cost for setting a cyber > Message-ID: > <AANLkTikRzy7Scz_UGwFJxT7tt4y9VRqQQsUsq11nXQET(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 16 August 2010 13:21, kiiru polly <wairimukiiru(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > hello, > > > > morning good people, i have a question which i would like honest answers > in > > regard to a cyber come mpesa setup budget. > > > > i hereby hope to set up a cyber and an Mpesa place in the near future and > i > > justed wanted to work with actual or somewhat close up figures. > > > > i have a plan of setting up a cyber of about 10 comps, with broadband > > internet, and wi-fi services to charge. at the same time im thinking of > > combining it with M-pesa/mkesho, yu n zain transfer money services. > > > > who would assist me carry out a feasibility study and come up with the > > numbers of setting up shop?? > > > > also from all young at heart out there what do young people really wish > > they would find in a cyber/lounge ?? > > > > thanks. > > > > I'm also interested in this too. > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > > > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > *Solomon Mb?r? Kamau* > > ***************************************************** > *Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the > same way to the side of a hill!* > > AND > > *It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous > generosity! * > > http://smiley2.wordpress.com > http://mburu.sikika.co.ke >

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Off-Topic:Looking for an Export Company
by waihiga mwaura 17 Aug '10

17 Aug '10

Greetings I am looking for an export company to transport goods within Africa.Must have a license and proven experience and must be ready to get into a mutually beneficial partnership. Regards Waihiga Mwaura

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CCNP
by Dennis Kioko 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Does any one know the modality of getting a Cisco CCNP Certification locally? -- with Regards: sitting next to engineers can have some positive feedback: http://gramware.blogspot.com/2010/08/positive-feedback.html

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Looking for Telkom Orange Wireless CDMA network engineer
by Brian Munyao Longwe 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hi all, Anyone with a name/contact for an engineer who handles Telkom/Orange's CDMA network? I need to talk to someone urgently and I've lost the contacts I had a few years ago. Best regards, Brian -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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MSSQL - getting time different excluding weekends
by Calvin Omari 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hi, I am doing an ms sql select but i want to exclude week ends as i want am doing a different bewteen when a product was sold and when payment was done I need the diffrent between the sold date and paid date excluding weekends Any idea is highly appreciated Regards -- Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate, but that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens us. Calvin Omari Systems Developer/Designer http://www.facebook.com/barongo

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Re: [Skunkworks] Select data from JBASE to an excel
by wambugu esther 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hey guys, Kindly is ther eanyone who can help me in transporting data from JBASE to flat files. WILL appreaciate -- Best regards Esther Wambugu

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wake up and smell the coffee....lol!
by isaac kinyanjui 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

http://gizmodo.com/5612145/how-a-16+yo-kid-made-his-first-million-dollars-f…

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Can One Pick a phone Number directly from a wap browser?
by joe mwirigi 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Just wondering. Is it possible to pick a devices number (phone) from a browser(wap). A friend said he had clicked on a banner from a site using his phone and voila! an sms was sent to his phone. Well I cant get this :( how possible is it? Regards --------------------------------------------- #! /usr/bin/hope -w #$file: angel.mine script use strict; #Keep Going # become s good child my $pid = fork(); print $pid,"\n"; while(1) { sleep(never); /* more bad scripts */ }

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minimum cost for setting a cyber
by kiiru polly 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

hello, morning good people, i have a question which i would like honest answers in regard to a cyber come mpesa setup budget. i hereby hope to set up a cyber and an Mpesa place in the near future and i justed wanted to work with actual or somewhat close up figures. i have a plan of setting up a cyber of about 10 comps, with broadband internet, and wi-fi services to charge. at the same time im thinking of combining it with M-pesa/mkesho, yu n zain transfer money services. who would assist me carry out a feasibility study and come up with the numbers of setting up shop?? also from all young at heart out there what do young people really wish they would find in a cyber/lounge ?? thanks.

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PCBSD free BSD question
by [ Brainiac ] 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

hi guys , in an attempt to venture out there onto a non-linux environment, i would love to try out one of the other BSD's. however i have no clue why there is free, desktop and open bsd/s and additionally someone is ranting all good about solaris. Anyone know how different my experience will be moving from debian/ubuntu to freebsd / solaris? note: i still need my desktop to be up to task and not have to start looking for graphics adapters... etc etc -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by nick wambugu 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

LinkedIn ------------nick wambugu requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Josiah, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - nick Accept invitation from nick wambugu http://www.linkedin.com/e/-v5gv9x-gcx4yxv6-58/T4Pevh2Eh7RcyFJhPqi__ymPVOifi… View invitation from nick wambugu http://www.linkedin.com/e/-v5gv9x-gcx4yxv6-58/T4Pevh2Eh7RcyFJhPqi__ymPVOifi… ------------------------------------------ DID YOU KNOW you can showcase your professional knowledge on LinkedIn to receive job/consulting offers and enhance your professional reputation? Posting replies to questions on LinkedIn Answers puts you in front of the world's professional community. http://www.linkedin.com/e/-v5gv9x-gcx4yxv6-58/abq/inv-24/ ------ (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation

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Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
by nick wambugu 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

LinkedIn ------------nick wambugu requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn: ------------------------------------------ Mulutu, I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - nick Accept invitation from nick wambugu http://www.linkedin.com/e/nlu5iq-gcx4yx4b-4z/XqwhZ3Ffzi6Tax09giG2G5ucHu2sPa… View invitation from nick wambugu http://www.linkedin.com/e/nlu5iq-gcx4yx4b-4z/XqwhZ3Ffzi6Tax09giG2G5ucHu2sPa… ------------------------------------------ Why might connecting with nick wambugu be a good idea? nick wambugu's connections could be useful to you: After accepting nick wambugu's invitation, check nick wambugu's connections to see who else you may know and who you might want an introduction to. Building these connections can create opportunities in the future. ------ (c) 2010, LinkedIn Corporation

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Introducing PC Tech Magazine (East Africa)
by Albert Mucunguzi 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Dear members, I would like to introduce to you PC Tech, a monthly technology magazine, that is published in Uganda, but now circulated in Rwanda and Kenya. The magazine focuses on features of personal and enterprise technology initiatives, product and software reviews and research on information and communication technologies in Africa. The magazine seeks to tell the African ICT story by documenting and presenting the use of information technologies (ICTs) by private and public institutions/companies in Africa. It also details consumer interests and perspectives on technology in the East African region, and the continent as a whole. Beyond technology adoption and usage, the magazine discusses how private and public businesses/institutions address contemporary business challenges and remain innovative and competitive. In practice, the discussions are aimed at enabling other African business to learn from best practices and creating avenues for collaboration between these businesses. In research the discussions are aimed at offering educators and students sound case studies for learning. On our website (www.pctechmagazine.com) we have downloads of previous issues available, as well as any more information about the magazine and its initiatives. Comments and contributions can be sent through the address, ed(a)pctechmagazine.com. See downloads here: http://pctechmagazine.com/magazine/download-archives _______________________ Kind Regards, Albert Mucunguzi Executive Director PC Tech Magazine P.O. Box 32180, Tel: +256 712619812 Kampala, Uganda. Email: ed(a)pctechmagazine.com Website: www.pctechmagazine.com

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Moderation of this list
by David Mugo 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Skunks, Am writing this am not even sure it will get published but am really pissed off at how this list is moderated. Today i posted a thread that was OT and stated so on the subject, it was not published. It had a link to a site, but its not the first thread i have seen with links. Am seeing too much personalization of this list and to be honest, getting a little tired of the route its taking. There is need to save this list from personalization and benefiting specific individuals. I happen to think we are even entertaining corruption. David. -- ------------- http://blog.majibu.com

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yahoo spams
by Thomas Odol 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Hi guys i keep getting yahoo spam messages in your account and i wanted to know how to get rid of them any ideas? the come in like this: is this you? http://msnhot.net/photos.php Is this you on pic? http://elfarah.net/photos.php Kind regards, Odol

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PHP and Zend Framework; Thread #1
by Peter Karunyu 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

*Objectives* My objectives at this time is to get a rough idea of how to get started using the framework, after which I will create an application which uses most of the features a PHP developer uses on a day to day basis, i.e. a login form, a HTML table showing data from a database table, editing that data on a form and maybe uploading some files or photos. *Pre-requisites* 1. Download Zend Framework (ZF), at the time of writing, this is 1.10.7. (http://framework.zend.com/download/current/) I choose the zip version of *Zend Framework 1.10.7 Full*. 2. I already have a working setup of XAMPP 1.7.2 set up and working. Apache has been set up with mod_rewrite You can get a working copy of XAMPP here (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html) 3. Download the tutorial Getting started with Zend Framework from http://akrabat.com/zend-framework-tutorial/, revision 1.7.4. 4. IDE; I am using Eclipse 3.6.0 "HELIOS" with a number of additional plugins, most notably PHP *Configurations* I modified the System Path environment variable to point to the bin folder of ZF, while at it I also added the path to the XAMPP PHP folder. I also modified the include_path directive in php.ini to point to the library folder of ZF. To make future upgrades easier on me, I created a folder in c:\xampp\php and called it zendframework1-10-7 and in this folder, i copied the folders bin and library from the files i had downloaded. The changes to php.ini and the environment path both pointed to this one folder. Then i restarted my pc for the system path to take effect. Funny thing happens when I run the command *zf show version*, its showing its version 1.9.0, I am not sure whether this is the version of Zend Framework or Zend Tool. I will ignore it for now. *Getting started* I fired up my Eclipse, set up a new PHP project and pointed it to the zf-directory created by the Zend_tool as detailed in the tutorial (page 2 and 3). On running the command: *zf create action add Index*, I kept getting this error: *An Error Has Occurred A project profile was not found. Zend Framework Command Line Console Tool v1.9.0 Details for action "Create" and provider "Action" Action zf create action name controller-name[=index] view-included[=1] module* Searched the net and came across this http://akrabat.com/zend-framework-tutorial-18/ which suggests two solutions: 1. Use at least ZF 1.9.1 (I am using 1.10? Not sure) 2. Change the current directory to the project where you want the action to be created, in this case c:\xampp\htdocs\zf-tutorial. This didn't work, so i switched to c:\xampp\htdocs\zf-tutorial\application\controllers and still it didn't work. More searching revealed this is a Windows only setup and many more pips are having the same issue http://framework.zend.com/issues/browse/ZF-7465. Will take a break now. Just thought of a possible solution, instead of using the command *zf create project zf-tutorial* I will instead use the command *zf create project zf-tutorial zf-tutorial-profile zf-tutorial-profile*" as the zend tool manual says the command has the syntax *zf create project path name-of-profile file-of-profile* I will also try the recommendation given at http://forums.zend.com/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=2020 (the last post at the bottom) which says "*...My solution: type in cd <project name> and then the context of Zend_Tool will switch to your project.*" though i am not sure what cd <project name> means. If none of these work, I guess I will have to create the view scripts by hand. Or someone who has done this before could point me in the right direction...

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EMS Kenya website not working
by Brian Munyao Longwe 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

http://www.emskenya.co.ke/ is totally unreachable and seems to be down. Strange that such a vital site would be allowed downtime....seems our friends at Posta still have some of the old government tendencies of not maintaining their infrastructure, tsk, tsk. -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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OpenSolaris en mort!
by Odhiambo Washington 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html <http://sstallion.blogspot.com/2010/08/opensolaris-is-dead.html> -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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Eac Domain
by Derrick Wesonga 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Eac partner states rooting for a regional domain http://allafrica.com/stories/201008130649.html

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Kenya IGF 2010, Discussions :Day 7 of 8 Theme:E-Crime, Online Privacy & Data Security- Continuation
by Judy Okite 16 Aug '10

16 Aug '10

Good Morning, As we near, closing these discussions we, feel free to contribute to the former threads by clicking on the correct subject/title. Today we continue with , - a) E-crime- situation in Kenya - b) E- Voting- where Kenya is @ And today we add c) c) Online privacy and data security i) Sim card registration- on the 21st June 2010 the government through CCK(Communication Commission of Kenya) declared it mandatory for all mobile users to register their Sim cards More info: http://www.cck.go.ke/news/2010/news_21june2010.html “The exercise is aimed at safeguarding the public against acts of insecurity, including the wide spread threats posed by terrorism, drug trafficking, money laundering, extortion, fraud, hate messages, and incitement that are now wide spread throughout the world, “said the Minister for Information and Communication. Currently we have 18million (I stand to be corrected ) mobile users in Kenya, In these forms, one has to give their residential area , their identity card number, their birth information etc… That is a whole lot of data on Kenyans… in short , a grand database! From yesterday’s discussions we saw that currently we have no LAW to guard this database. Q. What will stop the Authority from using my details wrongly? Q. What happens if I don’t register by 31st of July? I will be disconnected? Under what LAW? ii) When I send a SMS to 3007 with an ID card number, it returns with voter details, full names, place of voting and voter card number of the ID card holder, however, 1, the system put in place, does not verify in any way that it’s the real owner of the ID card, that has sent this query? a) Can this data be manipulated? Then what? A question, on top of my head, with all these ongoing, what creates demand for LAW?(if there is anything, like that) Your queries, comments, inputs, corrections are welcome! Kind Regards, -- “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan

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OT - Some humor, best of Kenya's mchongoano!
by David Mugo 15 Aug '10

15 Aug '10

Guys, Take a light moment off work, visit http://cheka.niaje.com/ David. -- ------------- http://blog.majibu.com

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