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Techies.. Its about time - our own governing body is over due
by Oliver Ndegwa 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Dear Skunks, I believe its about time that the techies came together to form an association like any other group of professionals. The doctors, Lawyers, Architects, Engineers, finance. They have a body that governs their businesses and that sets forth certain standards that even employers have to adhere to. This way we can take all the talent available and we can nature over time graduating professions from one stage to another and eventually they can become e.g. senior partners as auditors and lawyers would refer them. In this case probably it would be Senior Technical Partner I am talking of a body consisting of duly elected or designated representatives and IT professionals from all walks joining and forming a very strong team that even the Government its self would recognize and will be coming to us for consultation let alone advice on matters of technology and its innovation/ investments. For example with the ICT city coming up soon, we should be at the fore front coming up with plans of what we envision the next techie power house will entail. Setting up standards that investors will come to adhere to so that they dont come thinking that Kenya is a cheap labor country where they can misuse our painfully earned expertise. More so, this can be used to protect its members from possible exploitation in the market place, I mean the possibilities are endless. We need to set the pace for the rest of Africa to emulate and who knows you might find them requesting for membership having gained recognitions world wide... My thoughts, Lets deliberate on this, lets look at the possibilities, keeping an open mind.. This could be it.... Warm Regards Oliver

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Recruitment Website For Sale
by Theus Owicho 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Guys A Friend who runs a recruitment website which is in top 30 most visited websites in Kenya is selling it. If you are interested, get in touch off list Owicho

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Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls
by [db] 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Personally, I think this price wars are a good thing for the consumer who still have to look really closely to make a choice. Some seem better and there's one more. Check this out: http://orangetkl.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=118:ora…

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Orange joins Mobile War and unleashes Tariff salvo
by Brian Munyao Longwe 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Its official call unlimited for FREE from 10.00 am- 5.00 pm daily Orange to Orange and to a fixed line for only 100 each month. Further, Orange customers can also enjoy calls Orange -Orange/landline at the lowest on net tariff of Kshs 2 per min and SMS at Kshs 1, while rates to other networks are slashed ...to Kshs 4 ...per min and Kshs 2 for SMS. This new tariff is permanent and goes live today at midnight. -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Mandriva >> projector problem
by Kevin Gichuhi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Hi gurus! Am having a problem trying to configure mandriva 2010 for a powerpoint presentation any Ideas? -- *Waigwa Gichuhi # +254-722 977 563 / +254-750 252 012 Blog:http://waigwagichuhi.blogspot.com/*

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Free video/voice calls on Gmail chat from browser
by Andrew Wachira 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Guys, in case you haven't seen this: http://www.google.com/chat/video The voice/video plugin is now available for linux as well and with amazing quality! Cheers! -- http://www.chromeexperiments.com

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Queen Bee's move exposes its soft underbelly.
by [ Brainiac ] 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

After a long day analyzing and re analyzing decisions made by safaricom, and after looking at the provisional product presented to "cool off" the market, I am of the opinion that in so doing safaricom may have unwittingly exposed what clients give them most revenue. -> those that spend Ksh 100 and above. hear me out. 1: They have changed nothing on the sms front, meaning they know once youre hooked on the correct calling rates, it will not matter how much you are charged. (and the converse is true--> no tarrif is likely to perform well if the incentive is only cheap (or even free) text messages). 2. The cost of supporting the clients on the 5bob to 20 bob airtime range must be abnormally high or not worth it in the long run. I suspect safaricom may actually be deliberatily easing the decision by these clients to move to zain and competition so that they are left only with the "right" kind of clientelle, where the average support cost per client is lower and probably ARPU higher. 3: Postpaid clients are .. an unnecessary evil, or a well kept secret that they hope to grow in the long term. I suspect this has something to do with holding up cash flow for the company. Conclusion: Competitors might want to look at their reactionary move and strike where it hurts most, otherwise they stand to remain with clients at the absolute lower end of the market where volumes are high but value is low. Me thoughts. -- Posted on 100% recycled electrons

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Re: [Skunkworks] Skunkworks Digest, Vol 6, Issue 404
by Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Dear all, Just to make a clarification on the new Orange Tariff Regardless of the amount you top up the new calling rates are Kshs 2 from Orange on -net (mobile+ wireless and fixed line) and Kshs 1 for SMS while calls to other networks will be charged at Kshs 4 per minute and Kshs 2 for SMS. Additionally for Kshs 100 per month you can make on net calls for free every day from 10.00 a.m. - 5 p.m. I hope this clarifies the new tariff. regards, Angela Ng'ang'a - Mumo Head of Corporate Communications Telkom Kenya On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:50 AM, <skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send Skunkworks mailing list submissions to > skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > skunkworks-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > skunkworks-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Skunkworks digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls > ([ Brainiac ]) > 2. Recruitment Website For Sale (Theus Owicho) > 3. Re: Orange launches lowest on-net calls and first free calls > ([db]) > 4. Re: Recruitment Website For Sale (Alvin Jason Ochieng) > 5. Re: Recruitment Website For Sale (Theus Owicho) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 11:38:11 +0300 > From: "[ Brainiac ]" <arebacollins(a)gmail.com> > To: Skunkworks Mailing List <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Orange launches lowest on-net calls and > first free calls > Message-ID: > <AANLkTim0gqbw3VX1Y63hVM7yk56aswT3uz+afmeVBpnK(a)mail.gmail.com<AANLkTim0gqbw3VX1Y63hVM7yk56aswT3uz%2BafmeVBpnK(a)mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > just how is Ksh 2 a minute for Ksh 100 top time and Ksh 4 across networks > the lowest in the market? these guys need to call a spade a spade. > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ndungi Kyalo <ndungi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > A majority of Safaricom shareholders are its own customers too. And most > > shareholders have figured out that they are spending more on airtime than > > what they get back as dividends (since the share price is pretty much > > stagnant), hence they are happy with the price reductions. Its good for > > consumers, good for most shareholders and maybe not so good for a _few_ > > shareholders. > > > > > > On 25 August 2010 07:53, Musya mike <mmycool(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Qt good for the consumer,bt bad for the safcom shareholder! > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:46 AM, [db] <dimbega(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Personally, I think this price wars are a good thing for the consumer > who > >>> still have to look really closely to make a choice. > >>> Some seem better and there's one more. > >>> > >>> Check this out: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > http://orangetkl.co.ke/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=118:ora… > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >>> ------------ > >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >>> > >>> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >>> ------------ > >>> Skunkworks Rules > >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >>> ------------ > >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> > >> > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > > > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > Posted on 100% recycled electrons >

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Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins
by Steve Obbayi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Programming C++? for that amount? Are these guys going to be witting "Hello World!" applications all day? C++ is a VERY BIG and VERY COMPLICATED language. There's a lot that goes into developing a decent C++ program and it can take years of active development to master C++. Yeah theory can be learned in a couple of weeks and a simple app that asks your name and displays it can be built on your first day. That means nothing as far C++ is concerned, so don't start calling yourself a C++ programer just yet. So sking for a C++ programmer in that age bracket and that amount in this day an age is crazy as this generation has practically no production code experience in C++. If it were PHP, JAVA, C# thats another story but not with C++. my 2cents Steve Obbayi ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Njuki" <njukey(a)gmail.com> To: "Skunkworks Mailing List" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:59:26 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] vacancies - 3 linux sys admins IMO if it is serious work just hire one experienced Linux admin and pay him/her the total sum paid to all the three "rookies" being sought after coz frankly I think with such job adverts that will lead people to eventually undermine Linux admins and what they are actually worth, Look at web design nowadays, you got every quack of tom, dick and harry doing it and charging meagre fees. -- ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙ 'spɹɐƃǝɹ ıʞnɾu pıʌɐp _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke

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Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx
by King'ori Gitahi 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

I thought this was a joke until someone from Safaricom called to confirm.� Lol hehehe things are truly elephant.� If you won't go to the fight, they will take the fight to you!�� For the first time Safaricom has a real competitor in Bharti Airtel.� The rest of the guys were just joking.� May the best man win!. Kingz For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela� > ----- Original message ----- > From: "Alvin Jason Ochieng‎" <ajochola(a)gmail.com> > To: "Skunkworks Mailing List‎" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Safaricom wont stoop down to unsustainable pricing, MJ and his have their heads screwed on right - http://bit.ly/db6MYx > Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:03:49 +0300 > > >LOL !!! Margaret !! > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:39 PM, margaret wanjiru > <mwanjiru07(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > This is going too far now.....a Zain promotional truck is moving slowly > > outside the safaricom HQ with the loudest music off the main high way.... > > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> As this post will never end what do we as Subscribers care about?? > >> > >> Isn't it just cheaper rates with good quality ?? > >> > >> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Joram Mwinamo <joram.mwinamo(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Let me ask guys on this page. If your competitor slashed prices for the > >> > sake > >> > of it, do you slash yours immediately? In my opinion the folly therein > >> > lies > >> > in believing that your services are of equal value and your economics > >> > are > >> > the same. Which I think is not the case here > >> > There has been euphoria as is the usual kenyan behaviour (elections, > >> > IPOs , > >> > Pyramid schemes) without considering the bigger picture. To date few of > >> > my > >> > friends who did not already have a Zain line bought one. Which means > >> > that > >> > they probably just call more from Zain but still carry out their > >> > surfing, > >> > money transfer and mobile banking from their safcom line. And when they > >> > run > >> > out of Zain airtime in an area without a dealer, still call from > >> > safaricom > >> > Also I dont believe Safaricom are dropping prices this week purely on > >> > zains > >> > assault, they are probably just doing it faster, because price reduction > >> > after CCKs move would only have been hampered if the big 4 telecoms > >> > colluded > >> > not to reduce prices. After which CCK would have still cracked the whip. > >> > Lets understand the business behind safaricom. Not just wish doom on > >> > them > >> > because they are succesful > >> > Joram > >> > > >> > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Solomon Mburu Kamau > >> > <solo.mburu(a)gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 23 August 2010 09:47, Peter Osotsi <peter.osotsi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Its like having a disloyal wife, there's nothing you can do as long as > >> >>> you love her and her waywardness. > >> >>> > >> >>> My simple take. > >> >> > >> >> As long as a woman is beautiful, she'll never lack suitors!!! > >> >>> > >> >>> /.0721586109// > >> >>> /.0733911199// > >> >>> > >> >>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:29 AM, marto <martow(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> The CCK consultants study�put the�cost of setting up a call at > >> >>>> Ksh0.88, > >> >>>> http://tinyurl.com/3xyqg8g > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Oliver Ndegwa > >> >>>> <olie.ndegwa(a)gmail.com> > >> >>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> For safaricom to put their foot down and say that they are not moved > >> >>>>> by > >> >>>>> Zain's move, its completely infamous. Either these guys were not > >> >>>>> prepared > >> >>>>> for such or I would call their stance� the last kicks of a dying > >> >>>>> horse. > >> >>>>> Very� very powerful and resistant. They need to swarrow their pride > >> >>>>> and come > >> >>>>> back to their senses and start to understand that the long queues in > >> >>>>> Zain > >> >>>>> shops are not people registering as voters. These are safaricom > >> >>>>> customers > >> >>>>> making a big switch. > >> >>>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> Skunkworks mailing list > >> >>> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> >>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> >>> ------------ > >> >>> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> >>> ------------ > >> >>> Skunkworks Rules > >> >>> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> >>> ------------ > >> >>> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau > >> >> > >> >> ***************************************************** > >> >> Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all > >> >> the > >> >> same way to the side of a hill! > >> >> > >> >> AND > >> >> > >> >> It is better to die in dignity than in the ignominy of ambiguous > >> >> generosity! > >> >> > >> >> http://smiley2.wordpress.com > >> >> http://mburu.sikika.co.ke > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Skunkworks Rules > >> >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> >> ------------ > >> >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Sent from my Voice Recognition Watch© > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > God is not an excuse for lack of discipline > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Our greatest fear is not that we are inadequate,but that we are powerful > >> > beyond measure.It is our light, not our darkness, that frightens > >> > us.There is > >> > nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel > >> > insecure > >> > around you.As we let our own light shine, we consciously give other > >> > people > >> > permission to do the same. > >> > As we are liberated from our fear,our presence automatically liberates > >> > others. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Skunkworks mailing list > >> > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> > ------------ > >> > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> > > >> > > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> > ------------ > >> > Skunkworks Rules > >> > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> > ------------ > >> > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Skunkworks mailing list > >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > >> > >> http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > >> ------------ > >> Skunkworks Rules > >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > >> ------------ > >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Margaret. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Server donations spreadsheet > http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AopdHkqSqKL-dHlQVTMxU1VBdU1BSWJxdy1… > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > -------------------------------------------------------------- Ovi Mail: Making email access easy http://mail.ovi.com

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