October 2009 - skunkworks - Skunkworks Site

Ignorance question on Web design..
by aki 15 Oct '09

15 Oct '09

Listers, my apology for the comments if they seem ignorant. ( if you followed my thread on asp hosting, I have a little experience on .asp... ) So I decided to check out some sites and to be amazed by all the developments in the sector, afterall I took a 5 year break and never did a commercial site. So I come across a site that does corporate business web design. Nicely done it is and has all the presentations. I decided to look at source..... and I could not believe it. CSS templates and one can download the templates as a rar files ( usual sites... ) . And source is html.... woaa! I was under the impression that everyone went to .php but seems not. Web design and development is like games development. Needs 2 different talents i.e Web Developer and Graphics artist. So I guess Graphics artist has been replaced by .rar files as templates. My question is : On skunks, are there any web developers / artists and why do they not contribute to the list? As an inspiration to others, where are their works or sites that one can visit and admire? Just wondering... :-)

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Government Webmaster JD
by David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

The Nation on Page 40 has a very interesting KPI for a webmaster/administrator. No. 5 Keeping records of expiry dates of Software: Mdaemon E-Mail Server ... LOL No. 9 .... Mdaemon server is running (emails are going in and out normally) Surely you don't have to include this in a JD not unless there's a process failure, what in the world are they doing with M-daemon? Who uses nowadays? A linux-based exim or postfix can solve this. If any skunk takes up this job you know what to do ;-) Kiania -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon

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1Mb Broadband Access Becomes Legal Right (in Finland)
by Christopher Kiagiri 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Speaking of "haki yetu" ... http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/10/1mb_broadband_access_becomes_legal_right…<http://yle.fi/uutiset/news/2009/10/1mb_broadband_access_becomes_legal_right…> 1Mb Broadband Access Becomes Legal Right published today 03:15 PM Image: YLE Keski-Suomi / Petteri Juuti Starting next July, every person in Finland will have the right to a one-megabit broadband connection, says the Ministry of Transport and Communications. Finland is the world's first country to create laws guaranteeing broadband access. The government had already decided to make a 100 Mb broadband connection a legal right by the end of 2015. On Wednesday, the Ministry announced the new goal as an intermediary step. Some variation will be allowed, if connectivity can be arranged through mobile phone networks. YLE

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wiping out BB
by Dickson Kimathi 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hi Skunkers,Am trying to wipe out a BB and it seems unable to do so. Its been stuck at a scrubbing stage of wiping for quite sometime now. and keeps restarting the process all over again.Anybody with an idea. Good Day all! -- "Aim for the top. It is less crowded there." www.freewebs.com/dkimathi

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Re: [Skunkworks] la vita e bella
by James Wachira 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

*I Like!!! * On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:36 AM, James Wachira <jwaciira(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I like!!! > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM, saidimu apale <saidimu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Who knew life could be this bella? >> >> http://www.dna11.com/ >> >> Saidi >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Skunkworks mailing list >> Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks >> ------------ >> Skunkworks Rules >> http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 >> ------------ >> Other services @ http://my.co.ke >> Other lists >> ------------- >> Announce: >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce >> Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science >> kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >> > > > > -- > Best Regards > James Wachira > Nairobi .ke > tel:+254 728 024 897 | twitter: jwaciira | yahoo: jwaciira | gtalk: > jwaciira > -- Best Regards James Wachira Nairobi .ke tel:+254 728 024 897 | twitter: jwaciira | yahoo: jwaciira | gtalk: jwaciira

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FREE PAYROLL - SUGGEST A NAME
by bernard kioko 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

If you read my post the other day, this should not sound new...... So the decision to make a free payroll system (geared towards kenyan market) has been made.....a coding team will be put together soon. We are looking for people with knowledge on payroll processing who are willing to contribute by giving us requirements and testing the same.....mainly on email and chat. Developers interested (we will mainly use PHP and MYSQL).....please email me directly.... But even before we start.......we need a name (or codename)........ Please send in some suggestions......am sure we will credit you in the final product...... Haya..... Regards Kioko

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BAA preparing for Windows 7 take off
by Paul Roy 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

*http://software.silicon.com/os/0%2c39024651%2c39559864%2c00.htm * *BAA preparing for Windows 7 take off* Airport operator BAA is hoping the roll out of Windows 7 will help simplify its IT infrastructure and contribute to a cost-cutting initiative across the company. Speaking at a Microsoft customer event in London this week, BAA CIO Philip Langsdale said the company has been testing Windows 7 and now plans to roll it out across the company. BAA owns and operates seven UK airports, including Heathrow, which handle more than 200 million passengers per year. Langsdale said BAA is planning to invest £60m in IT systems and infrastructure between 2008 and 2012 which will feed into a company-wide effort to reduce operation expenditure by £114m over the same period. [image: BAA's Heathrow airport with Terminal 5 in the foreground] *BAA's Heathrow airport with Terminal 5 in the foreground (Photo credit: BAA)* A new operating system is part of this IT investment and Windows 7 has been chosen to replace BAA's generally Windows Vista environment for a number of reasons. "The main purpose is usability - it's less clunky [than Vista] and it's easier for people to use," Langsdale told silicon.com. He added that so far Windows 7 has proved to be reliable and secure, resulting in a lower number of support requests to his IT team, which also has an impact on cost. "The evidence so far suggests it will reduce costs. We haven't done the maths but early indications are that [the number of] helpdesk calls have gone down," he explained. Bringing the whole company onto Windows 7 is also intended to simplify the technology platform across the business so that it can be better managed and fits with BAA's strict governance requirements. BAA still has a lot of work to do with its Windows 7 roll out as it discovered that 95 per cent of its desktop and laptop estate were below the spec required to run the operating system. Langsdale said the company knew a significant hardware refresh was required and so the Windows 7 implementation will be carried out in a phased fashion to fit with this. Langsdale added the company needs to take a "cautious" approach to the Windows 7 roll out due to financial constraints. "We're going to replace [hardware] over a period of 15 months," he said. Langsdale's team has been testing Windows 7 using virtualisation technology from Citrix, which they found works well, and the team plans to use it for the wider roll out work. Langsdale told delegates at the Microsoft customer event: "Generally is has been a very good and easy migration." -- "Change is slow and gradual. It requires hardwork, a bit of luck, a fair amount of self-sacrifice and a lot of patience." Roy.

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Skunkworks-announce
by Samuel Waithaka 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Got this from Skunkworks-announce after posting. What to expect? I think it's much longer that average response times; assuming there's something happening in the first place.. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <skunkworks-announce-bounces(a)lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM Subject: Your message to Skunkworks-announce awaits moderator approval To: samwaithaka(a)gmail.com Your mail to 'Skunkworks-announce' with the subject [Subject] Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Post to moderated list Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm/skunkworks-announce/********** -- Samuel Waithaka http://www.linkedin.com/in/waithaka http://twitter.com/samwaithaka

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Internet Access Restriction
by Simon Mbuthia 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hi guys, I'm looking for an application that I can install on my server to restrict internet access. Something that works kinda like.. users 1-10, except user 9, only access the internet before or after working hours. User 9 only has access to a certain website at all hours. I have tried googling but what I'm getting isn't really helping, so I thought to turn to the list. Any advice? P.S. I have installed AnalogX proxy, but I don't think it has all that capability. Thanks, S. -- שִׁמְעוֹן

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Cisco 4500 VLAN ACL
by cwahome＠jambo.co.ke 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hi All, I have 5 VLANs in my network configured in my L3 switch 4500. currently all VLANs can ping and reach each others, means 192.168.3.100 host in my vlan2 can reach 192.168.1.100 which is vlan3. I want to create an ACL in my L3 switch to deny the Vlans to access or ping each other, I just want them to access my servers 172.16.1.10 - 172.16.1.30 which are in the default Vlan1. can someone advise me which the commands and where to apply them in the L3 switch. Thanks interface Vlan2 ip address 192.168.3.1 255.255.255.0 ip helper-address 192.168.16.10 ! interface Vlan3 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0 ip helper-address 192.168.16.10 ! interface Vlan4 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0 ip helper-address 192.168.16.10 ! interface Vlan5 ip address 192.168.6.1 255.255.255.0 ip helper-address 192.168.16.10 ! interface Vlan6 ip address 192.168.7.1 255.255.255.0 ip helper-address 192.168.16.10 ! ---------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by Jambo MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. --------------------------------------------- "easy access to the world"

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Sidekick failure rumors point fingers at outsourcing, lack of backups
by saidimu apale 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

An ongoing disaster for users. Surely Microsoft and T-Mobile must be singing the blues. http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/11/sidekick-failure-rumors-point-fingers-at… > Why there weren't any backups -- even older ones -- that could've been used > as a restore point is totally unclear, so we're hoping Microsoft has the > stones to come clean for the benefit of an entire industry that wants to > understand how to make sure this never happens again. Saidi <tongue_in_cheek> With BA's giant software migration (mentioned in another skunks-ke post), would you feel safe flying BA? </tongue_in_cheek>

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SAFARICOM MODEM UNLOCK CODE.
by chege boniface 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Dear All, Does anyone in the room know how to unlock this Safaricom modem to work with other providers?I have tried using YU,Orange,Zein but it keeps requesting for the unlock code. I have tried using DC-Unlocker to unlock the data card but this isn't detecting the card. Is there an alternative Software that I can use to unlock this modem? Please if anyone knows the location, send me the link. Regards, Boniface Maina.

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Zain Data Down
by David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

I have just confirmed from the Zain Customer Service desk that indeed their data service has been down since 10:45 can you imagine? I saw the E icon disappear from my fone and I have not been able to access any site or services. What's even more surprising is the fact that there's no one on skunks who's raised the red flag on this. Why the double standard, we are keen to jump on Safcom for the shortest downtime and let Zain get away with this? It is apparent that we seriously need another mobile data service. I am willing to put my money on Orange. Grrrrrrrhhhhhh!!!! Kiania -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon

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la vita e bella
by saidimu apale 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Who knew life could be this bella? http://www.dna11.com/ Saidi

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Camera Access Across WAN
by Odhiambo Washington 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hello Skunks, I have a situation where there are two office locations connected to each other using point-to-point link via a local provider. The point to point link capacity is 1Mbps. The quality of the link (latency) is pretty good: C:\>ping 192.168.3.20 Pinging 192.168.3.20 with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.3.20: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=126 Reply from 192.168.3.20: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=126 Reply from 192.168.3.20: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=126 Reply from 192.168.3.20: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=126 Ping statistics for 192.168.3.20: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 21ms Now, I have a camera (D-Link DCS-950G) installed at location A. It's a basic IP camera anyways. It's only accessible via IE (and I hate that, but that's another story). I have a problem with the image when accessing the camera across the WAN - it only gives a black box and no image displays. I am basically at /etc with this one:) -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you have nothing good to say about someone, just shut up!." -- Lucky Dube

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Microsoft loses customer's Sidekick Data
by Philip Musyoki 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Anyone heard about Microsoft losing customer's Sidekick data? Anyway, just to be safe I think it is high time people start backing up their Hotmail accounts. http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10372525-56.html?tag=rtcol;pop.

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Looking For IBM AS 400
by Barrack Otieno 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Listers, I need some advice on where i can obtain the above mentioned as soon as possible, if you have them even if it is a refurb we can talk about it. Blessings -- Barrack O. Otieno Administrative Manager Afriregister Ltd (Ke) P.o.Box 21682 Nairobi 00100 Tel: +254721325277 +254733206359 +254202498789 Riara Road, Bamboo Lane www.afriregister.com ICANN accredited registrar.

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Okoa dont Okoa me
by Theus Owicho 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Guys Why is it that when I dial *131# to Okoa jahazi I dont get the credit? Is SafariCom engaging in some congame now And now when I load 100 Ksh it comes to Ksh 99 as the balance Why? Kwanini? naibiwa

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What is going on at Zuku?
by Daudi Were 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Does anybody have any information they can share on what is going on at Zuku? For the whole of Monday and Tuesday (today) the speeds have been terrible. It looks like at some point their phone lines were also affected as yesterday afternoon their customer service phone lines were unreachable. Every time I call I get a different response from the customer service team. The first time I called they said it was problem with the base station, then router integration, now they say that everything should be work as normal but it is clear that sometime is still wrong. Share any information you may have please! Thanks -- Pamoja e:daudi.were@gmail.com <e%3Adaudi.were(a)gmail.com> skype: d.were

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Fwd: [ke-internetusers] Re: Local Loop: Clarification Needed
by Brian Munyao Longwe 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> Date: Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] Local Loop: Clarification Needed To: wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> Cc: Skunk Works <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke>, ke-users <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> Hey Wesly, "Local Loop" is also what is referred to as the "Last Mile" in telecoms/internet terms and mainly came from the days when most telecoms would come from the local exchange - with a mile or so of wire to connect adjacent customers. In todays world of wired/wireless/optical media - the last mile would refer to the link that connects the customer to their local exchange/base station/access point/DSLAM/fiber node etc... As Michuki has rightly pointed out - most ISPs do not differentiate between a service that requires local-only connectivity or one that entails international connectivity - as you can tell from most of their service packages. However, infrastructure providers like KDN, Telkom Kenya, Jamii and others are very familiar with this type of setup and serve a lot of banks, NGOS and other who need branch connectivity - if you're targetting a local "Internet" audience then your best bet would be a link to the KIXP - from where you can peer with the rest of Kenya's Internet and have your content/applications accessible. Best regards, Brian On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:22 AM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com>wrote: > Alright. So the lady was correct in her explanation. These network stuff > can be a bit confusing 8~) > > Thanks. > > > > > --- On *Mon, 10/12/09, Michuki Mwangi <michuki(a)swiftkenya.com>* wrote: > > > From: Michuki Mwangi <michuki(a)swiftkenya.com> > Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] Local Loop: Clarification > Needed > To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Cc: "Skunk Works" <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke>, "ke-users" < > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> > Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 8:51 PM > > > Hi Wesley, > > Local loop = point to point circuit. > > Am not aware of any ISP that provides a LocalNET product/service. > > Your best option would be to buy a local-loop service to the KIXP and > peer with everyone there. At the rate of $75 per MB on KDNs Fiber, it > might be worth it if you are buying more than 1Mb of capacity. 1MB is > the departure point where Peering becomes cheaper than buying Transit > from any provider in Kenya. > > HTH, > > Michuki. > > wesley kirinya wrote: > > Hey ppl, > > > > I need a clarification on what a local loop is. I was at AK some days > back and the lady dealing with this told me that a local loop doesnt really > mean internet that's restricted to Kenya, but a connection between e.g. > branches of a company/organization. Therefore if I wanted to buy bandwidth > to host local content, which would be restricted to Kenyan traffic, then I > would buy at the same rate as international bandwidth. > > > > If that's the case then I think this hurts the budding local content > industry. > > > > So the point: Define local loop? > > > > o_O? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Skunkworks mailing list > > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke> > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > > ------------ > > Skunkworks Rules > > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > > ------------ > > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > > Other lists > > ------------- > > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general > _______________________________________________ > ke-internetusers mailing list > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ke-internetusers@bdix.net> > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > > > _______________________________________________ > ke-internetusers mailing list > ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net > http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers > > -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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WINDOWS 7 LAUNCH BY MICROSOFT LOCALLY - Don't Miss out !!!
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Aki...My ipaq 914 is that finished....LOL On 10/13/09, aki <aki275(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > Agreed, I too have many mistakes.... lakini ya jana, too funny. > Dibai........... and the rest of thread followed with Dincan, Tindo... > :-))))) lol! > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:41 PM, aki <aki275(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> :-))))) @Alvin, spelling mistake in the subject line? >> >> On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Alvin Jason Ochieng <ajochola(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Book your places now !!!! >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general >

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WINDOWS 7 LAUNCH BY MICROSODT LOCALLY - Don't Miss out !!!
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Book your places now !!!! You are cordially invited to attend the Windows 7 Launch at the National Museum of Kenya on the 28th of October 2009. *It's how you can make information available in the office and on the go, across many devices.* At the new efficiency launch event, you'll see how people are using innovations in Windows® 7, Windows Server® 2008 R2, and Microsoft® Exchange Server 2010 to help meet efficiency challenges head-on. *Time* *Agenda* *Plenary session* 08:00 – 09:00 Registration 09:30 - 10:00 Welcome 10:00 - 10:30 Windows Server 2008 R2 10:30 – 11:00 Exchange 2010 11:00 – 11:30 Windows 7 End of Session Refreshments to be served *You can benefit from the new efficiency.* Start taking the lead, and deliver solutions that help lower costs and put your business on a trajectory for growth. • Get more from your existing systems, with solutions that work together and are interoperable. • Simplify IT infrastructure management to help lower costs and manage compliance demands. • Build on existing skills, with new innovations based on familiar Microsoft processes and interfaces, backed by a huge base of support. • Connect people to information, using products with advanced features. *Entrance is free* *Come See all our exciting new products and learn more about the joint business Efficiency!* *Registration closes on the 25th October 2009* Please rsvp to June Isige Angela Hinga Talk2us(a)microsoft.com Greenline Technology Limited IT Hardware and Software Solutions 2nd Floor, Odyssey Plaza, Mukoma Road. Email :info@greenline.co.ke +254 20 651755 / 552086 +254 20 2425225 / 2429743 +254 20 559841 +254 722-219938/733-610758 Mon-Fri (8-5pm) Print only when necessary

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Re: [Skunkworks] [ke-internetusers] Re: Local Loop: Clarification Needed
by wesley kirinya 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Thanks y'all With this new info, I'm more enlightened and ready for round 2. I will contact the ISPs, tell them I need to link to KIXP as I would like traffic limited to the local "Internet", tell them I want XXX dedicated and reliable bandwidth and ask for a quote (with no freakin hidden stuff!). They always piss me off when they don't include taxes, kwani they plan to pay it on my behalf! Countries like U.S where VAT is about 7% and more goods are tax excempt may exlcude it but not Kenya, 16% ... 8~) --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> wrote: From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe(a)gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] Local Loop: Clarification Needed To: "wesley kirinya" <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> Cc: "Skunk Works" <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 12:00 PM Hey Wesly, "Local Loop" is also what is referred to as the "Last Mile" in telecoms/internet terms and mainly came from the days when most telecoms would come from the local exchange - with a mile or so of wire to connect adjacent customers. In todays world of wired/wireless/optical media - the last mile would refer to the link that connects the customer to their local exchange/base station/access point/DSLAM/fiber node etc... As Michuki has rightly pointed out - most ISPs do not differentiate between a service that requires local-only connectivity or one that entails international connectivity - as you can tell from most of their service packages. However, infrastructure providers like KDN, Telkom Kenya, Jamii and others are very familiar with this type of setup and serve a lot of banks, NGOS and other who need branch connectivity - if you're targetting a local "Internet" audience then your best bet would be a link to the KIXP - from where you can peer with the rest of Kenya's Internet and have your content/applications accessible. Best regards, Brian On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:22 AM, wesley kirinya <kiriinya2000(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Alright. So the lady was correct in her explanation. These network stuff can be a bit confusing 8~) Thanks. --- On Mon, 10/12/09, Michuki Mwangi <michuki(a)swiftkenya.com> wrote: From: Michuki Mwangi <michuki(a)swiftkenya.com> Subject: [ke-internetusers] Re: [Skunkworks] Local Loop: Clarification Needed To: "Skunkworks Forum" <skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke> Cc: "Skunk Works" <skunkworks(a)my.co.ke>, "ke-users" <ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net> Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 8:51 PM Hi Wesley, Local loop = point to point circuit. Am not aware of any ISP that provides a LocalNET product/service. Your best option would be to buy a local-loop service to the KIXP and peer with everyone there. At the rate of $75 per MB on KDNs Fiber, it might be worth it if you are buying more than 1Mb of capacity. 1MB is the departure point where Peering becomes cheaper than buying Transit from any provider in Kenya. HTH, Michuki. wesley kirinya wrote: > Hey ppl, > > I need a clarification on what a local loop is. I was at AK some days back and the lady dealing with this told me that a local loop doesnt really mean internet that's restricted to Kenya, but a connection between e.g. branches of a company/organization. Therefore if I wanted to buy bandwidth to host local content, which would be restricted to Kenyan traffic, then I would buy at the same rate as international bandwidth. > > If that's the case then I think this hurts the budding local content industry. > > So the point: Define local loop? > > o_O? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Skunkworks mailing list > Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks > ------------ > Skunkworks Rules > http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 > ------------ > Other services @ http://my.co.ke > Other lists > ------------- > Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce > Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science > kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers _______________________________________________ ke-internetusers mailing list ke-internetusers(a)bdix.net http://www.bdix.net/mailman/listinfo/ke-internetusers -- Brian Munyao Longwe e-mail: blongwe(a)gmail.com cell: + 254 722 518 744 blog : http://zinjlog.blogspot.com meta-blog: http://mashilingi.blogspot.com

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Free migration to Windows 7 by trading in Vista key
by Mark Mwangi 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hey, am told by a friend that one can get a free copy of the new windows 7 by turning in your valid vista key. . . does anyone have details/website for this/ -- Regards, Mark Mwangi http://mwangy.wordpress.com

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Local Loop: Clarification Needed
by wesley kirinya 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hey ppl, I need a clarification on what a local loop is. I was at AK some days back and the lady dealing with this told me that a local loop doesnt really mean internet that's restricted to Kenya, but a connection between e.g. branches of a company/organization. Therefore if I wanted to buy bandwidth to host local content, which would be restricted to Kenyan traffic, then I would buy at the same rate as international bandwidth. If that's the case then I think this hurts the budding local content industry. So the point: Define local loop? o_O?

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implementing an ISP
by Michael Omondi 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi guys, a pal of mine wants to setup an ISP in a location for about 200users. Is there an open source billing and badwidth manager that can comfortably manage this setup?the network will be mainly cabled with afew hotspots. Your help will be highly appreciated. On 10/12/09, charles mtawali <cmtawali(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Hey, > Is there a facility for streaming of video from an event to the internet or > do i hv to use Skype and other similar facilities. I have a fibre optic > connectivity but i dont know how i ca stream live video across the internet > > Thanks in advance > > > >

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Best innovations in tech sector, year 2009
by aki 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Since we are heading towards end of year soon, what do you think is the best innovation that happened this year? Please let out these : - 10 mail accounts with an internet connection - Mpesa and Zap. Time to get over this old idea. - Any new data services whether fiber or wireless - Ring tone generators - SMS based services I'm unable to find one besides the papers being full of unnecessary tech noise. What do you think? Rgds.

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SAP-FI professionals
by kennedy kariuki 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hi, Anyone on this list or knows someone????? Job opportunity - full time

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Zain Data Down
by Mbugua Njihia 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

I don't think that it's a case of double standards for the simple reason that one would complain on the outage of a service that they used. I cried foul on saf jana coz I use it, just as u did Zain coz you use it. Am sure you wouldn't know if AK had issues if ur not on it.

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My Next Project : Ad Serving.
by Areba Collins 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Hello skunk(s)ettes. Im sure every right thinking skunker has something planned for "this big technology" and grand ideas of how they are going to break the barriers by some innovation of sorts. I have been considering setting up an ad server service and would like to know if anyone here has done anything like this. The concept looks easy from my perspective. --> Almost everyone i know has a website they are hoping to monetize someday, catering to some unique market segment. Some big, some small. --> This service collects (pools) these websites, arranged according to the categories. Each webmasters selects a zone where served ads will appear. --> The service approaches advertisers to advertise on a broad spectrum of zones. and pay according to agreed terms. --> the service then pays the webmasters using some mobile money transfer of sorts, from as low as Ksh 100. Check out www.openx.org to get a better picture of this: Id love to hear your comments / critique / suggestions.

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OT: Samsung Official Distributors in Kenya
by Solomon Mburu 13 Oct '09

13 Oct '09

Guys, I'm looking to the official Samsung Official Distributors in Kenya and googling does not help at all. There was a company by the name Perragon (or something like that) which marketed Samsung products in Kenya. This company was based @ Capital Centre and at Upper Hill (can't remember the exact place). Would anyone know where I can get the Official Samsung distributors in Kenya. Thank you! -- Solomon Mburu P.O. Box 19343 - 00202 Nairobi Cell: (+254-0) 735 431041 Man is a gregarious animal and enjoys agreement as cows will graze all the same way to the side of a hill! AND It is better to die in dignity than in the ignomity of ambiguous generosity! http://desires-and-dreams.blogspot.com https://smiley2.wordpress.com www.takingitglobal.org/mburu

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Visual Studio 2008
by Mr. Lawi 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hi guys, Is it too late to ask for the official vs 2008 dvd? Someone was giving the vs, sql server and windows server combo some time back. I want one of those. Thanx

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Re: [Skunkworks] LIVE VIDEO STREAMING
by charles mtawali 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hey, Is there a facility for streaming of video from an event to the internet or do i hv to use Skype and other similar facilities. I have a fibre optic connectivity but i dont know how i ca stream live video across the internet Thanks in advance

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ASP and hosting in kenya
by aki 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Some background : After almost a 5 year break, I can see many things have advanced in the asp world. Some of the successful projects that I created on asp : - Organization Contacts Database. Front end html including low traffic overhead over slow WAN links. Html database provided add, edit and full search by name, country, city etc. Despite access's 2GB limit, over 7000 contacts were stored into Db. I'm told sharepoint made the DB obsolete 2 year ago but is missed... - Freelancers expenses and budget reporting system. Front end html used to collect form data from various departments that deal with freelancers. Backend Ms Access which I setup with queries to prompt for freelancer name and month, provided detailed cost analysis of payments due and a gross summary of total budgets spent monthly/annual on such. Am told after 3 years of use, a complete HRM system replaced it... - Photo archive system. Full searchable, same concept front html with resize thumbnails and fields. Diffcult system as I still needed to master the thumbnails generator as DB size grew over the 2GB limit very quickly. Okay, moving on : For my future web/data projects, is SilverLight and asp.net the best to go forward with or is Ajax because so much has changed. Things like CSS are now there. And is any kenyan hosting provider able to do asp hosting or should I just use one of the many companies who do it on the net? I'd hate to have to start from scratch on php and mysql, just because of lamps ease. Adv is welcome. :-) Rgds.

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Live box and coverage and boosting signals
by Mbugua Njihia 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Question: My neighbor just got the Live box on 512. Livebox itself is wifi enabled but I living on the next block of apartments 50m aerial distance cant see the signal unless I go out on my balcony and even then it is a poor signal. There is line of sight btw his house and mine. Will plug in a Linksys router to the livebox and placing it on his balcony do any better? Or is there an easy way to boost the signal?

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Anyone Attending LISA 2009?
by Moses Mungai 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hallo fellow techies, Am attending the prestigious annual Sysadmin conference; USENIX LISA 2009 in Baltimore here http://www.usenix.org/event/lisa09/ I thought it would be nice to ask around so I can have a chance to meet fellow skunks since I've been away from dot ke for a Year and a half now....(am currently in Norway) would be nice to have our own 'Kenyan Skunk-a-thon' in the US... :-D Holla, Moses

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Doing Tech Conferences
by Murigi Muraya 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Why do you think Multi National Tech Conferences in Africa occur in RSA or in North Africa? http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=61283041553&topic=6560 The Norwegian Developers Conference http://www.ndc2009.no/en/tickets/index.aspx?cat=1073&id=1305 (@ USD 1,000 for 1 day pass, USD 1,400 for 2 day pass, USD 1580 for 3 day pass) in June 2009 had ONLY 1000 attendees. They were expecting 2000 attendees but ... http://www.kjetilk.com/2009/06/ndc-2009-highlights.html The Norwegian Java Developers Conference on Sept 9-10, 2009 had 2000 attendees. It was USD 800 for early registration and USD 1000 after that for the two days. http://www.java.no/javazone/2009/cfp.html and http://www.java.no/javazone/2009/registration.html Norway population = 4.8M = Nairobi Population. Kenya Population = 40M. Do we have any major PHP, Java, .Net or Electronics Conferences to speak of? Has poor turn out discouraged organizers and investors? If some in the US have brought their developer conference prices to USD 99.00 per head per day (http://stackoverflow.carsonified.com/ and http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2009/05/12.html) am sure we Kenyans can pull off good quality tech conferences for about 3-4K per head per day. Lower bandwidth costs will help more of us connect online but we need more. Considering traditional media is so expensive to advertise in we need like 100 web sites we can advertise on - barter trade on.

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GITEX Dibai
by Space Engineering NOC 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Anyone attending the GITEX in Dibai

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Degraded Safcom internet experience
by Mbugua Njihia 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Any of one suffering from a degraded internet experience on Safaricom? Speeds over the weekend have been bollocks and it seems today is no better!

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skype on bambanet
by Musya mike 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Anyone using skype on safcom's bambanet? 'Expensive'?

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Guess who owns a server farm?
by fyodor 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

All. Old McDonald had a server farm He eyed the I/O..... And on on the farm he had a mouse He eyed the I/O... With a click click here! click click there! click here! click there! click everywhere! [repeat from beginning] Old McDonald had a server farm He eyed the I/O..... And on on the farm he had a doc He eyed the I/O..... With doc doc here! doc doc there doc here! doc there! docs everywhere... [repeat from beginning] Take it easy guys.... -tyrus _IEEE Member!

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[ADVERT] - Laptop RAM DDR2 512 MB.
by Martin Muraguri 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

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Aeroplanes are now Tweeting
by Thomas Kibui 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Lufthansa has set up a new service named MySkyStatus that automatically posts the current position of your flight to Twitter or Facebook so your friends can follow your travels (and your friends living in those cities can look up!). Typical status updates read “flying over San Francisco Intl, California 94030, USA on United Airlines” or “flying over Grantsville, UT 84029, USA on United Airlines”. It seems the system posts the flight’s position around once per hour, pulling info from a database of flight information. *Here’s the really smart bit:* Clicking the link in the update, of course, directs you to the Lufthansa MySkyStatus page with a Google Map of the flight’s position, meaning that Lufthansa is getting free social media promotion from people travelling on all airlines. Pretty smart. ... On a long haul flight, of course, the system may post 20 updates or more. Quoted from: http://mashable.com/2009/10/10/myskystatus/<http://edge.sita.aero/links/click.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmashable.com%2F2009%…>

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Dell Optiplex 360
by David Kago 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Almost new Dell Optiplex 360 for sale, bids invited.. bei ya kuongea... hit me offlist

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Rules
by Phares Kariuki 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hi, We have inserted a link to the rules on etiquette as part of the signature. Kindly refer before posting if in doubt. Thanks. -- With Regards, Phares Kariuki | T: +254 734 810 802 | E: pkariuki(a)gmail.com | Twitter: kaboro | Skype: kariukiphares |

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community cleverness needed
by saidimu apale 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

I'm stuck on a challenging problem and I need your collective intelligence. This isn't a specific problem but a general one I've seen in many situations. I'll try and make the problem description as generic as possible so it can apply to a wide variety of situations. I have a solution in mind but I'm not sure it works. To prevent creating bias (for or against), I won't discuss my solution until after others put forth theirs. Problem Description: ================ There are three parties involved, let's call them A, B and C - A contacts B with a message for C - A pays both B and C for successful delivery of the message How does A determine the following: - that B delivered the message to C - that C received the message from B Assumptions: ========== - To make the problem as general as possible, let's assume all communication between the parties happens only via SMS - The trustworthiness of B and C cannot be determined, i.e. don't assume they will honestly relay the facts to each other or to A - B can decide to scam C, or collude with C to scam A, or scam both C and A - C can decide to scam B, or collude with B to scam A, or scam both B and A What's the community's cleverness on this one? saidi

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TECH. INSIGHTS - COUNTERFEIGHT LAPTOPS
by Alvin Jason Ochieng 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Skunks, Check Today's Standard Newspaper page 29 on how to tell fake products that are literally everywhere in this Market !!! Monday OCT 12th 2009. The Anti-Counterfeit Bill has been enacted so let us help stamp them out !!!!! Alvin GREENLINE TECHNOLOGY LTD. 722-313923

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Applying for youth fund
by Job Muriuki 12 Oct '09

12 Oct '09

Hi good people. I need help in applying for the youth fund. Any assistance will fine. Thanks.

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Re: [Skunkworks] Wolframalpha: Beyond search engine
by Kipkemoi 11 Oct '09

11 Oct '09

Their name just rolls off the tongue ... -- A Cruce Salus On Oct 10, 2009 11:08 PM, "David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd" < kianiadee(a)gmail.com> wrote: Skunks, Could you imagine a search engine where you can enter musical notes and you ask it to play for you the sound or some financial calculation on net present value of money, and it gives you the computation? This is unbelievable check out http://www.wolframalpha.com/ Whereas google and bing (sic) are excellent in the search and indexing of information wolframalpha does an amazing job in "Computational Knowledge Engine" check it out. Kiania PS. Before you ask, they've put me on retainer ;-) -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon _______________________________________________ Skunkworks mailing list Skunkworks(a)lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks ------------ Skunkworks Rules http://my.co.ke/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=94 ------------ Other services @ http://my.co.ke Other lists ------------- Announce: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/skunkworks-announce Science: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/science kazi: http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/admin/kazi/general

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Wolframalpha: Beyond search engine
by David Kiania | Asentric Consulting Ltd 10 Oct '09

10 Oct '09

Skunks, Could you imagine a search engine where you can enter musical notes and you ask it to play for you the sound or some financial calculation on net present value of money, and it gives you the computation? This is unbelievable check out http://www.wolframalpha.com/ Whereas google and bing (sic) are excellent in the search and indexing of information wolframalpha does an amazing job in "Computational Knowledge Engine" check it out. Kiania PS. Before you ask, they've put me on retainer ;-) -- [Asentric Consulting Ltd] If a man has in himself the soul of a slave will he not become one no matter what his birth .... -Richest Man in Babylon

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