Hi, This might help with some of the historical background in general: http://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/sites/default/files/ixp-impact-2009080... Best regards, Brian On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:

Are there any next steps on this or somebody who's interested in leading this? It seems like everybody agrees that ISOC funding is not a substitute for cash flow (i.e. operating expenses). However, ISOC funding could be great for infrastructure investment whether it be training or physical assets.

The options seem to be:

1. Write a proposal for training current operators on IXP best practices ( https://www.linx.net/good/lait.html) 2. Investigate migrating KIXP to a dual location topology either within Nairobi or even between Nairobi and another city. 3. Improved high-density hardware that may be cheaper to run over the next 3-5 years. 4. Just email ISOC or Mike Jensen who wrote that IXP piece and see if they have suggestions.

I'm new here though and honestly have no idea what the history is with all of this stuff (aside from reading that great PDF linked to above). Again, I'm glad to help but can only help somebody else who knows that the current situation is.

Cheers, Adam

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On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Stan Ngure <stanngure@gmail.com> wrote:

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@Simon, I do concur.

@Vass, sure enough grants are not sustainable for a business model to work.

However, the google funds could play a critical role, call it a spark in opening up the market or say bridging the gap.

The EA community is a very large market, and building incountry IXPs without encouraging some sort of interconnect will be a missed opportunity.

@James: Corporates can be the engine to getting content that is much needed. It all depends on the approach.

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Stan Ngure

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:11 AM, James <ndegwajim@yahoo.com> wrote:

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You can create a sustainable model by merely applying a certain percentage of VAT charged on Internet usage. Think of it in terms of how airports charge. Thez...landing charges...processing of airport charges...freight..etc. this are ultimately paid by airport users

All we need is to make sure we keep the charges at a minimum and are able to address the Internet penetration rate issue ..believe it's below 20 %

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On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Simon Vass <svass@etech.ug> wrote:

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Sure, but fine. We get a grant and have the bandwidth paid for say a year. Then what, how do we make this sustainable. Ultimately it has to make business sense otherwise it'll be another Donor funded project?

On 02/03/13 11:52, James wrote:

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Seems as though the non commercial approach is the most popular. Corporate vested interests might derail such a noble initiative. See report on the link below..

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