Fiy as kenyans keep rushing to courts for court orders, the region and the world moves "ahead" Tanzania will start today to switch off analogue broadcasting, whereby Dar es Salaam region will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system at 11.59 PM. According to the statement issued by Ministry of Communication, Science and Technology, the first region to switch off analogue broadcasting system will be Dar es Salaam, which will switch off today. The second regions will be Dodoma and Tanga which will switch off analogue broadcasting in January 31, 2013. On 28 February 2013, the analogue broadcasting system will shut down in Mwanza, while Moshi and Arusha will follow on March 31 and April 30, 2013 will see the switch off in the Mbeya region. The digital broadcasting infrastructures has been made to regions which will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system, while others have to wait until infrastructures are ready. The Tanzania Communication Regulatory Authority (TCRA) has insisted that the changing in broadcasting systems from analogue to digital will be conducted smoothly and to avoid inconveniences to people in the country.
Blame the impasse on the CSOs, who claim to fight for nthe rights of Kenyans.... On 4 January 2013 11:24, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Fiy as kenyans keep rushing to courts for court orders, the region and the world moves "ahead"
Tanzania will start today to switch off analogue broadcasting, whereby Dar es Salaam region will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system at 11.59 PM.
According to the statement issued by Ministry of Communication, Science and Technology, the first region to switch off analogue broadcasting system will be Dar es Salaam, which will switch off today.
The second regions will be Dodoma and Tanga which will switch off analogue broadcasting in January 31, 2013.
On 28 February 2013, the analogue broadcasting system will shut down in Mwanza, while Moshi and Arusha will follow on March 31 and April 30, 2013 will see the switch off in the Mbeya region.
The digital broadcasting infrastructures has been made to regions which will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system, while others have to wait until infrastructures are ready.
The Tanzania Communication Regulatory Authority (TCRA) has insisted that the changing in broadcasting systems from analogue to digital will be conducted smoothly and to avoid inconveniences to people in the country.
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Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ?? Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com>wrote:
Blame the impasse on the CSOs, who claim to fight for nthe rights of Kenyans....
On 4 January 2013 11:24, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Fiy as kenyans keep rushing to courts for court orders, the region and the world moves "ahead"
Tanzania will start today to switch off analogue broadcasting, whereby Dar es Salaam region will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system at 11.59 PM.
According to the statement issued by Ministry of Communication, Science and Technology, the first region to switch off analogue broadcasting system will be Dar es Salaam, which will switch off today.
The second regions will be Dodoma and Tanga which will switch off analogue broadcasting in January 31, 2013.
On 28 February 2013, the analogue broadcasting system will shut down in Mwanza, while Moshi and Arusha will follow on March 31 and April 30, 2013 will see the switch off in the Mbeya region.
The digital broadcasting infrastructures has been made to regions which will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system, while others have to wait until infrastructures are ready.
The Tanzania Communication Regulatory Authority (TCRA) has insisted that the changing in broadcasting systems from analogue to digital will be conducted smoothly and to avoid inconveniences to people in the country.
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How does it relate to IP? or the Internet? On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau <solo.mburu@gmail.com
wrote:
Blame the impasse on the CSOs, who claim to fight for nthe rights of Kenyans....
On 4 January 2013 11:24, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Fiy as kenyans keep rushing to courts for court orders, the region and the world moves "ahead"
Tanzania will start today to switch off analogue broadcasting, whereby Dar es Salaam region will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system at 11.59 PM.
According to the statement issued by Ministry of Communication, Science and Technology, the first region to switch off analogue broadcasting system will be Dar es Salaam, which will switch off today.
The second regions will be Dodoma and Tanga which will switch off analogue broadcasting in January 31, 2013.
On 28 February 2013, the analogue broadcasting system will shut down in Mwanza, while Moshi and Arusha will follow on March 31 and April 30, 2013 will see the switch off in the Mbeya region.
The digital broadcasting infrastructures has been made to regions which will be the first to enter into digital broadcasting system, while others have to wait until infrastructures are ready.
The Tanzania Communication Regulatory Authority (TCRA) has insisted that the changing in broadcasting systems from analogue to digital will be conducted smoothly and to avoid inconveniences to people in the country.
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no? -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services. Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen. Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products. Just my two cents... Brian ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
+1 Brian, well put and succinct. Regards Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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Thanks Ali, I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid. There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers. Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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Brian Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step... Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio) On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face... 2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio)
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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Another view about this switchover http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&... http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M... 2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face...
2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio)
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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Thanks @Bomu The government wants to "auction" the 700/800MHZ frequency that will be freed when analog TV signal is switched off to be used for bandwidth, especially LTE. The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia. I think the analog and digital signal should run parallel for a while, say a year or two. Why the hurry to switch of analog? On 14 January 2013 16:45, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Another view about this switchover
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&...
http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M...
2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face...
2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_(radio)
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
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On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote: > Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ?? > > Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
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Kivuva, I agree with u even the IPv6 and IPv4 were running concurrently for a while before they are faced out completely. It should apply for the analogue signals too... Daniel O.Omondi Dotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100 Tel:+254-020-313939/38 Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.com Skype:dottocomp Facebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya ________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION Thanks @BomuThe government wants to "auction" the 700/800MHZ frequency that will be freed when analog TV signal is switched off to be used for bandwidth, especially LTE. The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia. I think the analog and digital signal should run parallel for a while, say a year or two. Why the hurry to switch of analog? On 14 January 2013 16:45, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote: Another view about this switchover
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&... http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M...
2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really
both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face...
2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_%28radio%29
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote: > Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ?? > > Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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I Agree with Daniel on parallel run as the Analogue system is phased out. Make the devices available and in mass. I got a signet set top box and going digital even on just free to air transmission is worth it. You have at least 25 TV channels and 16 FM channels. I was amazed how my old TV could show such clear pictures :) SammyG On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com>wrote:
Kivuva, I agree with u even the IPv6 and IPv4 were running concurrently for a while before they are faced out completely. It should apply for the analogue signals too...
Daniel O.Omondi Dotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100 Tel:+254-020-313939/38 Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.com Skype:dottocomp Facebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya
------------------------------ *From:* Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> *To:* Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> *Cc:* isoc@lists.my.co.ke *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 5:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION
Thanks @Bomu The government wants to "auction" the 700/800MHZ frequency that will be freed when analog TV signal is switched off to be used for bandwidth, especially LTE. The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia.
I think the analog and digital signal should run parallel for a while, say a year or two. Why the hurry to switch of analog?
On 14 January 2013 16:45, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>wrote:
Another view about this switchover
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&...
http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M...
2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face...
2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_%28radio%29
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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We have been running parallel for a while now, in something called the "simulcast" period. All broadcasters were to have migrated their content during this time so that the analog swithoff can proceed smoothly. My take is that the legal action by COFEK is mischievous and fuelled by other parties' vested interests... Mblayo cell: +254715964281 #*****TRON LIVES*****# On Jan 15, 2013 12:17 PM, "Sam Gatere" <sam.gatere@gmail.com> wrote:
I Agree with Daniel on parallel run as the Analogue system is phased out. Make the devices available and in mass. I got a signet set top box and going digital even on just free to air transmission is worth it. You have at least 25 TV channels and 16 FM channels. I was amazed how my old TV could show such clear pictures :)
SammyG
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Daniel Otieno Omondi < dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
Kivuva, I agree with u even the IPv6 and IPv4 were running concurrently for a while before they are faced out completely. It should apply for the analogue signals too...
Daniel O.Omondi Dotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100 Tel:+254-020-313939/38 Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.com Skype:dottocomp Facebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya
------------------------------ *From:* Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> *To:* Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> *Cc:* isoc@lists.my.co.ke *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2013 5:13 PM *Subject:* Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION
Thanks @Bomu The government wants to "auction" the 700/800MHZ frequency that will be freed when analog TV signal is switched off to be used for bandwidth, especially LTE. The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia.
I think the analog and digital signal should run parallel for a while, say a year or two. Why the hurry to switch of analog?
On 14 January 2013 16:45, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>wrote:
Another view about this switchover
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&...
http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M...
2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face...
2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_%28radio%29
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies for wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to more affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure and services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding onto) and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote: > Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ?? > > Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
-- Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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True Brian. The simulcast period was to have ended in July 2012 but was extended to December 31, 2012. When the process was launched in 2009, it was announced to all Kenyans that Kenya would switch off the analogue signal in 2012. Prior to the launch, a task force was appointed and came up with this report on migration from analogue to digital found on this link. http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/Transition_2007.pdf I guess there may have been challenges which resulted in the simulcast period being extended. Further, there were attempts to highligt what the process is all about. I did see this flier in both Nation and Standard many times http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/dtv_migration.pdfbut probably people did not understand or the campaign sounded technical or didnt reach mashinani. But lets atleast agree that there was an attempt to make this information public. RgdsGG Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:45:43 +0300 From: blongwe@gmail.com To: sam.gatere@gmail.com CC: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION We have been running parallel for a while now, in something called the "simulcast" period. All broadcasters were to have migrated their content during this time so that the analog swithoff can proceed smoothly. My take is that the legal action by COFEK is mischievous and fuelled by other parties' vested interests... Mblayo cell: +254715964281 #*****TRON LIVES*****# On Jan 15, 2013 12:17 PM, "Sam Gatere" <sam.gatere@gmail.com> wrote: I Agree with Daniel on parallel run as the Analogue system is phased out. Make the devices available and in mass. I got a signet set top box and going digital even on just free to air transmission is worth it. You have at least 25 TV channels and 16 FM channels. I was amazed how my old TV could show such clear pictures :) SammyG On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote: Kivuva, I agree with u even the IPv6 and IPv4 were running concurrently for a while before they are faced out completely. It should apply for the analogue signals too... Daniel O.OmondiDotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100Tel:+254-020-313939/38Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.comSkype:dottocompFacebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION Thanks @BomuThe government wants to "auction" the 700/800MHZ frequency that will be freed when analog TV signal is switched off to be used for bandwidth, especially LTE. The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia. I think the analog and digital signal should run parallel for a while, say a year or two. Why the hurry to switch of analog? On 14 January 2013 16:45, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote: Another view about this switchover http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&... http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M... 2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face... 2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due
to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog
devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and
sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the
rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing
geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will
be valuable applications.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies
is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein
CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once
they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt)
are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to
me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require
additional
high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are
still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom
3/4
of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and
can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost
for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure
rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to
recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply
a
continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Brian, well put and succinct.
Regards
Ali Hussein
CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd
Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
wrote:
If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by
broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will
make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies
for
wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have
relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to
more
affordable and accessible internet services.
Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who
then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure
and
services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen.
Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV
broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding
onto)
and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced
broadband products.
Just my two cents...
Brian
ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my
heart
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com>
wrote:
Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ??
Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ?
I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no?
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Dear good people, Just thought it wise to share the 70 days Tanzania experience with digital TV. Link: http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/news/Tanzania-media-owners-demand-switch-bac... Lesson: Don't hurry things, we don't want or need an IEBC technology debacle - plan and test meticulously before you lunge forward! Regards and many thanks, Davis M Onsakia 'The minute you settle for less than you deserve, you get even less than you settled for.' - Maureen Dowd ________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: blongwe@gmail.com; sam.gatere@gmail.com Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 1:38 PM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION True Brian. The simulcast period was to have ended in July 2012 but was extended to December 31, 2012. When the process was launched in 2009, it was announced to all Kenyans that Kenya would switch off the analogue signal in 2012. Prior to the launch, a task force was appointed and came up with this report on migration from analogue to digital found on this link. http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/Transition_2007.pdf I guess there may have been challenges which resulted in the simulcast period being extended. Further, there were attempts to highligt what the process is all about. I did see this flier in both Nation and Standard many times http://www.cck.go.ke/about/downloads/dtv_migration.pdf but probably people did not understand or the campaign sounded technical or didnt reach mashinani. But lets atleast agree that there was an attempt to make this information public. Rgds GG ________________________________ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 12:45:43 +0300 From: blongwe@gmail.com To: sam.gatere@gmail.com CC: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION We have been running parallel for a while now, in something called the "simulcast" period. All broadcasters were to have migrated their content during this time so that the analog swithoff can proceed smoothly. My take is that the legal action by COFEK is mischievous and fuelled by other parties' vested interests... Mblayo cell: +254715964281 #*****TRON LIVES*****# On Jan 15, 2013 12:17 PM, "Sam Gatere" <sam.gatere@gmail.com> wrote: I Agree with Daniel on parallel run as the Analogue system is phased out. Make the devices available and in mass. I got a signet set top box and going digital even on just free to air transmission is worth it. You have at least 25 TV channels and 16 FM channels. I was amazed how my old TV could show such clear pictures :)
SammyG
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
Kivuva, I agree with u even the IPv6 and IPv4 were running concurrently for a while before they are faced out completely. It should apply for the analogue signals too...
Daniel O.Omondi Dotto Computer Agency P.O.Box 16753-00100 Tel:+254-020-313939/38 Cell:+254-722-756211 E-mail:dottocomp@yahoo.com Skype:dottocomp Facebook:dottocomp Nairobi,Kenya
________________________________ From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> To: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] DIGITAL MIGRATION
Thanks @BomuThe government wants to "auction" the 700/800MHZ frequency that will be freed when analog TV signal is switched off to be used for bandwidth, especially LTE. The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia.
I think the analog and digital signal should run parallel for a while, say a year or two. Why the hurry to switch of analog?
On 14 January 2013 16:45, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
Another view about this switchover
http://us2.campaign-archive1.com/?u=de9f45d125dffa47919a18815&id=9a537a82f1&... http://www.article19.org/resources.php/pressrelease/?utm_source=ARTICLE+19+M...
2013/1/4 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
i was reading the cso's arguments vis-a-vis those of govt and really
both sides have merit. the benefits of this migration cannot be overstated. it needs to happen. a few questions though: is there a plan or statement by government on how the freed resources will be used/distributed? could implementation of this migration have been done better? what measures can be put in place to ensure thats citizens support the migration? how about the issue of affordability? ISOC being a society is also a cso:) and we should ultimately be on the side of greater public good. at the same time we must offer creative solutions to the problems we face...
2013/1/4, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>:
In the USA the so-called white spaces have been a bit of a non-starter due to legacy usage of the gaps between the old channels for unlicensed analog devices such as wireless mucrophones - used in many theaters, churches and sporting events. Their users effectively lobbied the regulators, and the rollout has been slow and depends on cognitive devices accessing geolocation databases. That said, it is expected in rural areas there will be valuable applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spaces_%28radio%29
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Brian
Again. +1. Sometimes we do tend to forget that the freeing of frequencies is just but the first step...
Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd
+254 773/713 601113
"The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:31 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Ali,
I am especially passionate about how these frequencies will be used once they are freed up because most of the actors (regulator, operators, govt) are expecting/planning to use the freed up frequencies for LTE - which to me is a complete waste of money. Mainly because LTE will require additional high cost infrastructure rollout - and customer devices (LTE dongles) are still above the US$300 mark - which immediately squeezes out the bottom 3/4 of the consumer pyramid.
There are other technologies that are still viable - very affordable, and can meet the benchmark for wireless broadband at a much lower entry cost for operators and more appealing price point for consumers.
Dont' forget - depending on how much they spend on the infrastructure rollout - the operators will price their services accordingly in order to recoup their investment in as short a time as possible, which would imply a continuation of the high prices that we are currently seeing.
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
> +1 Brian, well put and succinct. > > Regards > > Ali Hussein > CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd > Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd > > +254 773/713 601113 > > "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> > wrote: > > If taken within the context that the frequences that will be freed up by > broadcasters once they are on the digital broadcast infrastructure will > make available lower band, higher bandwidth, longer range frequencies > for > wireless broadband access - then I believe that the issue *does* have > relevance as far as ISOC-KE is concerned. Especially with regards to > more > affordable and accessible internet services. > > Obviously the benefits can/will only be realized if the operators who > then get these frequencies can build, roll out and price infrastructure > and > services that will be "affordable and accessible" to the common citizen. > > Any action in this regard has to be a two-pronged lobby that targets TV > broadcasters (to give up the frequencies they are currently holding > onto) > and network operators (to deploy appropriately structured and priced > broadband products. > > Just my two cents... > > Brian > > ps - Access for all is an issue that has been and still is close to my > heart > > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:20 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:43 AM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Then isn't it time that Isoc-ke had a stance on this ?? >> > >> > Judy , grace , Barrack, Martin any suggestions on this ? >> >> I think this is outside the mission of ISOC-KE, no? >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> _______________________________________________ >> isoc mailing list >> isoc@lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >> > > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > >
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Grace Githaiga -
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kelvin githira -
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McTim -
Sam Gatere -
Solomon Mbũrũ Kamau