Telecoms regulator seeks powers to spy on consumers - Another case of Silly Season or should we be concerned?
Listers Apologies for cross-posting. Kenya’s telecommunication sector regulator is seeking fresh powers to spy on consumers that could see users of voice and data services lose their privacy to State and security agencies without their knowledge. Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Telecoms-regulator-seeks-f... Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
@Ali, Funny, I have not come across these proposed regulations - and I often consider myself to take more than a "pedestrian" interest in this sector. I have also checked the regulators site but dont see the specific proposals @ http://www.ca.go.ke/index.php/public-consultations Anyone with a copy of the contentious proposals? KBy the way, KICTAnet has a list of about 750 ICT individuals of diverse interest groups(Academia, Media, Technical, Operator, Consumer,etc). One begins to wonder if it is by design or otherwise, that the regulator, the ministry and other government agencies have in recent times conveniently chose to ignore sending (FREE) alerts on this forum. Put differently, there must be "other" ICT stakeholders government is engaging and we may need to be told so that we also "vuka"/go there accordingly :-). walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/20/14, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Subject: [isoc_ke] Telecoms regulator seeks powers to spy on consumers - Another case of Silly Season or should we be concerned? To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thursday, November 20, 2014, 4:00 AM ListersApologies for cross-posting.Kenya’s telecommunication sector regulator is seeking fresh powers to spy on consumers that could see users of voice and data services lose their privacy to State and security agencies without their knowledge.Read on:-http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Telecoms-regulator-seeks-f... Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
@Walu That's why I asked whether its another case of Silly Season..:) On the issue of engagement on the list I don't think I need to add more. In fact I have on good authority that most of the stakeholders in government are on the list. What I can see is that maybe just may be the...the guys who do this sort of thing need to be empowered within certain parameters. Ali Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad
On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali,
Funny, I have not come across these proposed regulations - and I often consider myself to take more than a "pedestrian" interest in this sector. I have also checked the regulators site but dont see the specific proposals
@ http://www.ca.go.ke/index.php/public-consultations
Anyone with a copy of the contentious proposals?
KBy the way, KICTAnet has a list of about 750 ICT individuals of diverse interest groups(Academia, Media, Technical, Operator, Consumer,etc). One begins to wonder if it is by design or otherwise, that the regulator, the ministry and other government agencies have in recent times conveniently chose to ignore sending (FREE) alerts on this forum.
Put differently, there must be "other" ICT stakeholders government is engaging and we may need to be told so that we also "vuka"/go there accordingly :-).
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/20/14, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: [isoc_ke] Telecoms regulator seeks powers to spy on consumers - Another case of Silly Season or should we be concerned? To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thursday, November 20, 2014, 4:00 AM
ListersApologies for cross-posting.Kenya’s telecommunication sector regulator is seeking fresh powers to spy on consumers that could see users of voice and data services lose their privacy to State and security agencies without their knowledge.Read on:-http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Telecoms-regulator-seeks-f... Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
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Anyone with a copy of the proposals? Victor On 20 Nov 2014 13:10, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Walu
That's why I asked whether its another case of Silly Season..:)
On the issue of engagement on the list I don't think I need to add more. In fact I have on good authority that most of the stakeholders in government are on the list. What I can see is that maybe just may be the...the guys who do this sort of thing need to be empowered within certain parameters.
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali,
Funny, I have not come across these proposed regulations - and I often consider myself to take more than a "pedestrian" interest in this sector. I have also checked the regulators site but dont see the specific proposals
@ http://www.ca.go.ke/index.php/public-consultations
Anyone with a copy of the contentious proposals?
KBy the way, KICTAnet has a list of about 750 ICT individuals of diverse interest groups(Academia, Media, Technical, Operator, Consumer,etc). One begins to wonder if it is by design or otherwise, that the regulator, the ministry and other government agencies have in recent times conveniently chose to ignore sending (FREE) alerts on this forum.
Put differently, there must be "other" ICT stakeholders government is engaging and we may need to be told so that we also "vuka"/go there accordingly :-).
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/20/14, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: [isoc_ke] Telecoms regulator seeks powers to spy on consumers - Another case of Silly Season or should we be concerned? To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thursday, November 20, 2014, 4:00 AM
ListersApologies for cross-posting.Kenya's telecommunication sector regulator is seeking fresh powers to spy on consumers that could see users of voice and data services lose their privacy to State and security agencies without their knowledge.Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Telecoms-regulator-seeks-f... Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
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There is high probability the author of the piece on Business Daily was referring to the proposed amendments here <http://ca.go.ke/index.php/public-consultations> to align CAK with KICA (Amendment) 2013. The public consultations are ongoing up to 15 Dec 2015. On 20 November 2014 14:23, Victor Kapiyo via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Anyone with a copy of the proposals?
Victor On 20 Nov 2014 13:10, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Walu
That's why I asked whether its another case of Silly Season..:)
On the issue of engagement on the list I don't think I need to add more. In fact I have on good authority that most of the stakeholders in government are on the list. What I can see is that maybe just may be the...the guys who do this sort of thing need to be empowered within certain parameters.
*Ali Hussein*
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali,
Funny, I have not come across these proposed regulations - and I often consider myself to take more than a "pedestrian" interest in this sector. I have also checked the regulators site but dont see the specific proposals
@ http://www.ca.go.ke/index.php/public-consultations
Anyone with a copy of the contentious proposals?
KBy the way, KICTAnet has a list of about 750 ICT individuals of diverse interest groups(Academia, Media, Technical, Operator, Consumer,etc). One begins to wonder if it is by design or otherwise, that the regulator, the ministry and other government agencies have in recent times conveniently chose to ignore sending (FREE) alerts on this forum.
Put differently, there must be "other" ICT stakeholders government is engaging and we may need to be told so that we also "vuka"/go there accordingly :-).
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/20/14, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: [isoc_ke] Telecoms regulator seeks powers to spy on consumers - Another case of Silly Season or should we be concerned? To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thursday, November 20, 2014, 4:00 AM
ListersApologies for cross-posting.Kenya’s telecommunication sector regulator is seeking fresh powers to spy on consumers that could see users of voice and data services lose their privacy to State and security agencies without their knowledge.Read on:- http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Telecoms-regulator-seeks-f... Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: www.alyhussein.com
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In Summary * Proposed regulations also say that the CA needs such unfettered access for purposes of inspecting the operators to ensure that their services meet the set quality of service thresholds. * Human rights activists see the proposals, which are currently undergoing stakeholder consultation, as the latest effort by the government to infringe on civil freedoms and citizens’ privacy using the veil of insecurity. * Besides the pursuit of spying rights, the CA is also seeking to institute regulations that will require the telecoms operators to keep the records for a minimum period of three years. Greetings, Above is an extract that is a Summary as put in the BD article. Any CSO that has gone to cite infringement of civil freedoms and privacy et al with the proliferation of physical security checks from hands all over the wrong places of customers bodies, gadget with possible radiation effect perhaps etc etc. How has such follow through on human rights been handled or the outcome? Is this indicative that the space in the Internet world also getting into the mode that the 'physical world is undergoing through? Have a blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Thursday, 20 November 2014, 17:16, Mose Karanja via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: There is high probability the author of the piece on Business Daily was referring to the proposed amendments here to align CAK with KICA (Amendment) 2013. The public consultations are ongoing up to 15 Dec 2015. On 20 November 2014 14:23, Victor Kapiyo via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Anyone with a copy of the proposals?
Victor On 20 Nov 2014 13:10, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Walu
That's why I asked whether its another case of Silly Season..:)
On the issue of engagement on the list I don't think I need to add more. In fact I have on good authority that most of the stakeholders in government are on the list. What I can see is that maybe just may be the...the guys who do this sort of thing need to be empowered within certain parameters.
Ali Hussein
+254 770 906375 / 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: http://www.alyhussein.com/
"I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 20, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali,
Funny, I have not come across these proposed regulations - and I often consider myself to take more than a "pedestrian" interest in this sector. I have also checked the regulators site but dont see the specific proposals
@ http://www.ca.go.ke/index.php/public-consultations
Anyone with a copy of the contentious proposals?
KBy the way, KICTAnet has a list of about 750 ICT individuals of diverse interest groups(Academia, Media, Technical, Operator, Consumer,etc). One begins to wonder if it is by design or otherwise, that the regulator, the ministry and other government agencies have in recent times conveniently chose to ignore sending (FREE) alerts on this forum.
Put differently, there must be "other" ICT stakeholders government is engaging and we may need to be told so that we also "vuka"/go there accordingly :-).
walu.
-------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/20/14, Ali Hussein via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Subject: [isoc_ke] Telecoms regulator seeks powers to spy on consumers - Another case of Silly Season or should we be concerned? To: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, ISOC@lists.my.co.ke Date: Thursday, November 20, 2014, 4:00 AM
ListersApologies for cross-posting.Kenya’s telecommunication sector regulator is seeking fresh powers to spy on consumers that could see users of voice and data services lose their privacy to State and security agencies without their knowledge.Read on:-http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Telecoms-regulator-seeks-f... Hussein +254 770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassimBlog: http://www.alyhussein.com/
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