Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation

Listers From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions. The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers. Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phone-tapping/1056-3... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad

But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start- phone-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html
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What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear... CA, please help us understand this... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad
On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening???
On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:-
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phone-tapping/1056-3...
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Listers, There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly. Best regards Christopher Wambua Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs [cid:BD5CCCCB-D595-4E49-81A7-9041EBEAF34A] Tel: +254 20 4242000/209 Mobile: +254 703 042209/ +254 730172209 P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 [cid:226242BC-78A2-4B15-9B7F-15A1D8F75853]wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke> [cid:DE6C2B93-AFD9-4365-9C00-D591C2FEFAEF] Communications Authority of Kenya<https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> [cid:2B6328FB-4542-41CC-AA39-A2008C365CAD] ca_kenya <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya> [cid:04576E90-6F27-4CF0-BB41-E91D66CBCDD8] www.ca.go.ke <http://www.ca.go.ke/> [cid:7EB4A863-6A5E-4C89-84E1-082A4BA5C6CC] Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use by the individual(s) or entity to whom?it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action ?in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Additionally, if you have received this email in error please notify the sender ?immediately by a reply e-mail. [cid:D1BD7EC6-8484-4EC6-BB2E-12549709BD75] From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM To: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke<mailto:wambua@ca.go.ke>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>>, ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke>>, KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear... CA, please help us understand this... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com<mailto:nmutungu@gmail.com>> wrote: But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> wrote: Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers. Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phone-tapping/1056-3... Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113<tel:+254%20713%20601113> Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke<mailto:isoc@lists.my.co.ke> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc

Listers, It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010. The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner, Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert *Telephone:* +254 720975498 *Twitter:* rapudohawi *Sykpe:* rapudo.hawi *Linkedin: *www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudoblog On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly.
Best regards
*Christopher Wambua*
Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
Tel: +254 20 4242000 <020%204242000>/209
Mobile: +254 703 042209 <0703%20042209>/
+254 730172209 <0730%20172209>
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM To: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter < isoc@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation
What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
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Skype: abu-jomo
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Rapudo, I thought so too. Looking forwad to the clarification by the Communications Authority. Regards On Feb 17, 2017 11:08 AM, "Rapudo Hawi via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010.
The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security
Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner,
Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert
*Telephone:* +254 720975498 <0720%20975498>
*Twitter:* rapudohawi
*Sykpe:* rapudo.hawi
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly.
Best regards
*Christopher Wambua*
Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
Tel: +254 20 4242000 <020%204242000>/209
Mobile: +254 703 042209 <0703%20042209>/
+254 730172209 <0730%20172209>
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
wambua@ca.go.ke Communications Authority of Kenya <https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> ca_kenya <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya>www.ca.go.ke <http://www.ca.go.ke/>
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation
What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
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Skype: abu-jomo
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
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Some myopic views through shallow news coverage often peddled by sponsored interests sleeper agents often masquerading as innocent, kind and public-interest caring souls can be quite irritating more than. mitigating which herein shall embark on offering evidence as to why we all need to rise up in arms against privacy violation in Kenya. There comes a time when fighting and shooting straight between the eyes is our civic duty far from the luxury of administering it sugar coated. YES!! So the Kenyan ‘government is to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit’ – Its so how scaring! They will listen to all our calls, read our SMS and review al our mobile money transactions. Now about to faint, damn! Thank heavens for 40 per cent UK Vodafone-owned Safaricom for expressing concerns on imminent privacy violation by snoopy Kenyan government. What would have become of us without this gallant public privacy caring mobile operator, never mind their Mobitelea founders secret (or was it ‘privacy’) history? Anyway, who cares – sometimes it never hurts to obfuscate secrecy with privacy to achieve those greater benefits. Oh! by the way, not forgetting that the new competition rules drawn by the Communications Authority were cooked up solely to hurt this our precious telecommunications private monopoly and therefore our collective fury at the regulator must send a very strong signal to any jealous person whom dares attack their hard-earned success from years of investment on innovative products and services. Needless to say, our local baby of UK-domiciled Vodafone Group last year boasted assets worth £133.7 (KShs 17.3 trillion) total equity of £65.88 billion ( Kshs 8.5 trillion) and annual revenue of £40.97 (Kshs 5.3 trillion) making mockery of Kenya’s 2016/2017 total expenditure of Kshs 2.05 trillion, or in other words, our entire national budget is no more than just a fraction of the net worth of mighty Vodafone value. What a digression from the original privacy discourse, when all aware that the Britishgovernment stands accused of breaking the law by forcing telecoms andinternet providers to retain records of phone calls, texts andinternet usage <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/24/british-government-breaking-law-in-forcing-data-retention-by-companies>, months after Europe's highest court said that such data retention breaches citizens' fundamental right to privacy contrary to Data Retention (EC Direction) Act of 2009. But at this point engage selective amnesia and choose to forget Hon. Edward Snowden’s revelation of the ‘Five Eyes’ surveillance programme comprising Austrlia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and United States – because you see? It’s easier to punch at weak Kenya government alleged snooping while steering off the unberably crazy international surveillance arrangements considering that, what the heck, even civil society gets donor funding from those rich countries so it helps not to bite the hand that feeds us. OK, agree we all keep it local not to antagonise the sleeping dog – it could wake up and bite us. Which compels a move on to another issue. Facebooks users are 'Dumb Fucks', or so admitted Facebook CEO as he mocked early Facebook users for trusting him with their personal information. "They trust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg in one of the instant messages, first published <http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5> by former Valleywag Nicholas Carlson at Silicon Alley Insider. But forgive him since he thinks he’s grown and learned alot <http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks>. What about Google, Microsoft, Apple, ad infinitum – all US firms we are all very fine trusting with our very, very very personal data? Does US have the rights to all your Google & FB data? Find out here <http://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/does-us-have-the-rights-to-all-your-google-fb-data/57052443>. And did you know The Trade In Services Agreement (TISA / TiSA), currently being negotiated among 50 countries, if passed would: - prohibit regulations on the financial industry; - eliminate laws to safeguard online or digital privacy; - render illegal any 'buy local' rules at any level of government; - effectively dismantle any public advantages to be derived from state-owned enterprises; and - eliminate net neutrality. Shocking information here <http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2988629/tpp_and_ttip_are_not_dead_now_theyre_called_the_trade_in_services_agreement.html> . OK, this is not going as initially wanted, because the bigger fear out there is unberable. And therefore, I shall revert to my original plan of praising our local wonderful privacy champion Safaricom airing worryover fake mobile monitoring plan by snoopy GoK through CommunicationsAuthority of Kenya <http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/reuters-america-kenyas-safaricom-airs-worry-over-fake-mobile-monitoring-plan.html> for I don’t care what happens out there in the global arena. Choosing to adopt the phrase, ‘what you don’t know cannot hurt you.’ Indeed, 'Free is a Lie' – Aral Balkan <https://vimeo.com/93176515> If you doubt my strong evidence do contact the source references cited. addios Gakuru On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Barrack Otieno via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Rapudo,
I thought so too. Looking forwad to the clarification by the Communications Authority.
Regards On Feb 17, 2017 11:08 AM, "Rapudo Hawi via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010.
The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security
Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner,
Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert
*Telephone:* +254 720975498 <0720%20975498>
*Twitter:* rapudohawi
*Sykpe:* rapudo.hawi
*Linkedin: *www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudoblog
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly.
Best regards
*Christopher Wambua*
Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
Tel: +254 20 4242000 <020%204242000>/209
Mobile: +254 703 042209 <0703%20042209>/
+254 730172209 <0730%20172209>
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
wambua@ca.go.ke Communications Authority of Kenya <https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> ca_kenya <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya>www.ca.go.ke <http://www.ca.go.ke/>
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From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM To: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter < isoc@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation
What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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What the heck? Here's a bonus reference for your enjoyment: The UK government seems to be attempting to significantly deepen its potential surveillance access. https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_ charger_gagging_order/ On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Some myopic views through shallow news coverage often peddled by sponsored interests sleeper agents often masquerading as innocent, kind and public-interest caring souls can be quite irritating more than. mitigating which herein shall embark on offering evidence as to why we all need to rise up in arms against privacy violation in Kenya. There comes a time when fighting and shooting straight between the eyes is our civic duty far from the luxury of administering it sugar coated. YES!!
So the Kenyan ‘government is to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit’ – Its so how scaring! They will listen to all our calls, read our SMS and review al our mobile money transactions. Now about to faint, damn! Thank heavens for 40 per cent UK Vodafone-owned Safaricom for expressing concerns on imminent privacy violation by snoopy Kenyan government. What would have become of us without this gallant public privacy caring mobile operator, never mind their Mobitelea founders secret (or was it ‘privacy’) history? Anyway, who cares – sometimes it never hurts to obfuscate secrecy with privacy to achieve those greater benefits.
Oh! by the way, not forgetting that the new competition rules drawn by the Communications Authority were cooked up solely to hurt this our precious telecommunications private monopoly and therefore our collective fury at the regulator must send a very strong signal to any jealous person whom dares attack their hard-earned success from years of investment on innovative products and services. Needless to say, our local baby of UK-domiciled Vodafone Group last year boasted assets worth £133.7 (KShs 17.3 trillion) total equity of £65.88 billion ( Kshs 8.5 trillion) and annual revenue of £40.97 (Kshs 5.3 trillion) making mockery of Kenya’s 2016/2017 total expenditure of Kshs 2.05 trillion, or in other words, our entire national budget is no more than just a fraction of the net worth of mighty Vodafone value.
What a digression from the original privacy discourse, when all aware that the Britishgovernment stands accused of breaking the law by forcing telecoms andinternet providers to retain records of phone calls, texts andinternet usage <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/24/british-government-breaking-law-in-forcing-data-retention-by-companies>, months after Europe's highest court said that such data retention breaches citizens' fundamental right to privacy contrary to Data Retention (EC Direction) Act of 2009.
But at this point engage selective amnesia and choose to forget Hon. Edward Snowden’s revelation of the ‘Five Eyes’ surveillance programme comprising Austrlia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and United States – because you see? It’s easier to punch at weak Kenya government alleged snooping while steering off the unberably crazy international surveillance arrangements considering that, what the heck, even civil society gets donor funding from those rich countries so it helps not to bite the hand that feeds us. OK, agree we all keep it local not to antagonise the sleeping dog – it could wake up and bite us. Which compels a move on to another issue.
Facebooks users are 'Dumb Fucks', or so admitted Facebook CEO as he mocked early Facebook users for trusting him with their personal information. "They trust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg in one of the instant messages, first published <http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5> by former Valleywag Nicholas Carlson at Silicon Alley Insider. But forgive him since he thinks he’s grown and learned alot <http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks>.
What about Google, Microsoft, Apple, ad infinitum – all US firms we are all very fine trusting with our very, very very personal data? Does US have the rights to all your Google & FB data? Find out here <http://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/does-us-have-the-rights-to-all-your-google-fb-data/57052443>. And did you know The Trade In Services Agreement (TISA / TiSA), currently being negotiated among 50 countries, if passed would:
-
prohibit regulations on the financial industry; -
eliminate laws to safeguard online or digital privacy; -
render illegal any 'buy local' rules at any level of government; -
effectively dismantle any public advantages to be derived from state-owned enterprises; and -
eliminate net neutrality.
Shocking information here <http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2988629/tpp_and_ttip_are_not_dead_now_theyre_called_the_trade_in_services_agreement.html> .
OK, this is not going as initially wanted, because the bigger fear out there is unberable. And therefore, I shall revert to my original plan of praising our local wonderful privacy champion Safaricom airing worryover fake mobile monitoring plan by snoopy GoK through CommunicationsAuthority of Kenya <http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/reuters-america-kenyas-safaricom-airs-worry-over-fake-mobile-monitoring-plan.html> for I don’t care what happens out there in the global arena. Choosing to adopt the phrase, ‘what you don’t know cannot hurt you.’
Indeed, 'Free is a Lie' – Aral Balkan <https://vimeo.com/93176515>
If you doubt my strong evidence do contact the source references cited.
addios
Gakuru
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Barrack Otieno via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Rapudo,
I thought so too. Looking forwad to the clarification by the Communications Authority.
Regards On Feb 17, 2017 11:08 AM, "Rapudo Hawi via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010.
The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security
Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner,
Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert
*Telephone:* +254 720975498 <0720%20975498>
*Twitter:* rapudohawi
*Sykpe:* rapudo.hawi
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On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly.
Best regards
*Christopher Wambua*
Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
Tel: +254 20 4242000 <020%204242000>/209
Mobile: +254 703 042209 <0703%20042209>/
+254 730172209 <0730%20172209>
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What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html
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Or let's just spy on kids? http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/17/515775874/banned-in-german... Banned In Germany: Kids' Doll Is Labeled An Espionage Device February 17, 201711:51 AM ET On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
What the heck? Here's a bonus reference for your enjoyment:
The UK government seems to be attempting to significantly deepen its potential surveillance access.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charg er_gagging_order/
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote:
Some myopic views through shallow news coverage often peddled by sponsored interests sleeper agents often masquerading as innocent, kind and public-interest caring souls can be quite irritating more than. mitigating which herein shall embark on offering evidence as to why we all need to rise up in arms against privacy violation in Kenya. There comes a time when fighting and shooting straight between the eyes is our civic duty far from the luxury of administering it sugar coated. YES!!
So the Kenyan ‘government is to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit’ – Its so how scaring! They will listen to all our calls, read our SMS and review al our mobile money transactions. Now about to faint, damn! Thank heavens for 40 per cent UK Vodafone-owned Safaricom for expressing concerns on imminent privacy violation by snoopy Kenyan government. What would have become of us without this gallant public privacy caring mobile operator, never mind their Mobitelea founders secret (or was it ‘privacy’) history? Anyway, who cares – sometimes it never hurts to obfuscate secrecy with privacy to achieve those greater benefits.
Oh! by the way, not forgetting that the new competition rules drawn by the Communications Authority were cooked up solely to hurt this our precious telecommunications private monopoly and therefore our collective fury at the regulator must send a very strong signal to any jealous person whom dares attack their hard-earned success from years of investment on innovative products and services. Needless to say, our local baby of UK-domiciled Vodafone Group last year boasted assets worth £133.7 (KShs 17.3 trillion) total equity of £65.88 billion ( Kshs 8.5 trillion) and annual revenue of £40.97 (Kshs 5.3 trillion) making mockery of Kenya’s 2016/2017 total expenditure of Kshs 2.05 trillion, or in other words, our entire national budget is no more than just a fraction of the net worth of mighty Vodafone value.
What a digression from the original privacy discourse, when all aware that the Britishgovernment stands accused of breaking the law by forcing telecoms andinternet providers to retain records of phone calls, texts andinternet usage <https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jun/24/british-government-breaking-law-in-forcing-data-retention-by-companies>, months after Europe's highest court said that such data retention breaches citizens' fundamental right to privacy contrary to Data Retention (EC Direction) Act of 2009.
But at this point engage selective amnesia and choose to forget Hon. Edward Snowden’s revelation of the ‘Five Eyes’ surveillance programme comprising Austrlia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and United States – because you see? It’s easier to punch at weak Kenya government alleged snooping while steering off the unberably crazy international surveillance arrangements considering that, what the heck, even civil society gets donor funding from those rich countries so it helps not to bite the hand that feeds us. OK, agree we all keep it local not to antagonise the sleeping dog – it could wake up and bite us. Which compels a move on to another issue.
Facebooks users are 'Dumb Fucks', or so admitted Facebook CEO as he mocked early Facebook users for trusting him with their personal information. "They trust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg in one of the instant messages, first published <http://www.businessinsider.com/well-these-new-zuckerberg-ims-wont-help-facebooks-privacy-problems-2010-5> by former Valleywag Nicholas Carlson at Silicon Alley Insider. But forgive him since he thinks he’s grown and learned alot <http://gawker.com/5636765/facebook-ceo-admits-to-calling-users-dumb-fucks>.
What about Google, Microsoft, Apple, ad infinitum – all US firms we are all very fine trusting with our very, very very personal data? Does US have the rights to all your Google & FB data? Find out here <http://cio.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/social-media/does-us-have-the-rights-to-all-your-google-fb-data/57052443>. And did you know The Trade In Services Agreement (TISA / TiSA), currently being negotiated among 50 countries, if passed would:
-
prohibit regulations on the financial industry; -
eliminate laws to safeguard online or digital privacy; -
render illegal any 'buy local' rules at any level of government; -
effectively dismantle any public advantages to be derived from state-owned enterprises; and -
eliminate net neutrality.
Shocking information here <http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/2988629/tpp_and_ttip_are_not_dead_now_theyre_called_the_trade_in_services_agreement.html> .
OK, this is not going as initially wanted, because the bigger fear out there is unberable. And therefore, I shall revert to my original plan of praising our local wonderful privacy champion Safaricom airing worryover fake mobile monitoring plan by snoopy GoK through CommunicationsAuthority of Kenya <http://www.cnbc.com/2017/02/17/reuters-america-kenyas-safaricom-airs-worry-over-fake-mobile-monitoring-plan.html> for I don’t care what happens out there in the global arena. Choosing to adopt the phrase, ‘what you don’t know cannot hurt you.’
Indeed, 'Free is a Lie' – Aral Balkan <https://vimeo.com/93176515>
If you doubt my strong evidence do contact the source references cited.
addios
Gakuru
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Barrack Otieno via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Rapudo,
I thought so too. Looking forwad to the clarification by the Communications Authority.
Regards On Feb 17, 2017 11:08 AM, "Rapudo Hawi via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010.
The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security
Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner,
Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert
*Telephone:* +254 720975498 <0720%20975498>
*Twitter:* rapudohawi
*Sykpe:* rapudo.hawi
*Linkedin: *www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudoblog
On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers,
There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly.
Best regards
*Christopher Wambua*
Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs
Tel: +254 20 4242000 <020%204242000>/209
Mobile: +254 703 042209 <0703%20042209>/
+254 730172209 <0730%20172209>
P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800
wambua@ca.go.ke Communications Authority of Kenya <https://www.facebook.com/CAOKenya?ref=hl> ca_kenya <https://twitter.com/CA_Kenya>www.ca.go.ke <http://www.ca.go.ke/>
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What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear...
CA, please help us understand this...
*Ali Hussein* *Principal* *Hussein & Associates* +254 0713 601113 <0713%20601113>
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote:
Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.
The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.
Read on:- http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Government-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/index.html
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Warm greetings! Keeping with the drift as per article below, while deflecting a bit, what is Kenya's IoT stand? Alwala Rachel &Wambua Christopher perhaps you may enlighten. PS: For the speak to the telcos discussion;Q: Are simcards and the phones and masts or other gadgets (especially the special offer ones) IoTed?If so why? If not why not? Is it expected? What is the consumer information? What is the consumer option? Opt-out or it means being locked out? Have a blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Saturday, 18 February 2017, 0:31, Alex Gakuru via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Or let's just spy on kids? http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/17/515775874/banned-in-german... Banned In Germany: Kids' Doll Is Labeled An Espionage Device February 17, 201711:51 AM ET On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:38 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: What the heck? Here's a bonus reference for your enjoyment: The UK government seems to be attempting to significantly deepen its potential surveillance access. https://www.theregister.co.uk/ 2017/02/17/linx_snoopers_charg er_gagging_order/ On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Alex Gakuru <gakuru@gmail.com> wrote: Some myopic viewsthrough shallow news coverage often peddled by sponsored interestssleeper agents often masquerading as innocent, kind andpublic-interest caring souls can be quite irritating more than. mitigating which hereinshall embark on offering evidence as to why we all need to rise up inarms against privacy violation in Kenya. There comes a time whenfighting and shooting straight between the eyes is our civic duty farfrom the luxury of administering it sugar coated. YES!! So the Kenyan‘government is to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit’ –Its so how scaring! They will listen to all our calls, read our SMSand review al our mobile money transactions. Now about to faint,damn! Thank heavens for 40 per cent UK Vodafone-owned Safaricom forexpressing concerns on imminent privacy violation by snoopy Kenyangovernment. What would have become of us without this gallant publicprivacy caring mobile operator, never mind their Mobitelea founderssecret (or was it ‘privacy’) history? Anyway, who cares –sometimes it never hurts to obfuscate secrecy with privacy to achievethose greater benefits.Oh! by the way, notforgetting that the new competition rules drawn by the CommunicationsAuthority were cooked up solely to hurt this our precioustelecommunications private monopoly and therefore our collective furyat the regulator must send a very strong signal to any jealous personwhom dares attack their hard-earned success from years of investmenton innovative products and services. Needless to say, our local babyof UK-domiciled Vodafone Group last year boasted assets worth £133.7(KShs 17.3 trillion) total equity of £65.88 billion ( Kshs 8.5trillion) and annual revenue of £40.97 (Kshs 5.3 trillion) makingmockery of Kenya’s 2016/2017 total expenditure of Kshs 2.05trillion, or in other words, our entire national budget is no morethan just a fraction of the net worth of mighty Vodafone value.What a digressionfrom the original privacy discourse, when all aware that the Britishgovernment stands accused of breaking the law by forcing telecoms andinternet providers to retain records of phone calls, texts andinternet usage, months after Europe's highest court said that suchdata retention breaches citizens' fundamental right to privacycontrary to Data Retention (EC Direction) Act of 2009. But at this pointengage selective amnesia and choose to forget Hon. Edward Snowden’srevelation of the ‘Five Eyes’ surveillance programme comprisingAustrlia, Canada, New Zealand, United Kingdom and United States –because you see? It’s easier to punch at weak Kenya governmentalleged snooping while steering off the unberably crazy internationalsurveillance arrangements considering that, what the heck, even civilsociety gets donor funding from those rich countries so it helps notto bite the hand that feeds us. OK, agree we all keep it local not toantagonise the sleeping dog – it could wake up and bite us. Which compels a move on to another issue.Facebooks users are'Dumb Fucks', or so admitted Facebook CEO as he mocked early Facebookusers for trusting him with their personal information. "Theytrust me — dumb fucks," says Zuckerberg in one of the instantmessages, firstpublished by former Valleywag Nicholas Carlson at Silicon AlleyInsider. But forgive him since he thinks he’s grown and learned alot. What about Google,Microsoft, Apple, ad infinitum – all US firms we are all very finetrusting with our very, very very personal data? Does US have therights to all your Google & FB data? Find out here. And did you know The Trade In Services Agreement (TISA / TiSA),currently being negotiated among 50 countries, if passed would: - prohibit regulations on the financial industry; - eliminate laws to safeguard online or digital privacy; - render illegal any 'buy local' rules at any level of government; - effectively dismantle any public advantages to be derived from state-owned enterprises; and - eliminate net neutrality. Shocking information here.OK, this is notgoing as initially wanted, because the bigger fear out there isunberable. And therefore, I shall revert to my original plan ofpraising our local wonderful privacy champion Safaricom airing worryover fake mobile monitoring plan by snoopy GoK through CommunicationsAuthority of Kenyafor I don’t care what happens out there in the global arena.Choosing to adopt the phrase, ‘what you don’t know cannot hurtyou.’ Indeed, 'Free is a Lie' –Aral Balkan If you doubt my strong evidence do contact the source references cited. addios Gakuru On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Barrack Otieno via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Rapudo,I thought so too. Looking forwad to the clarification by the Communications Authority.RegardsOn Feb 17, 2017 11:08 AM, "Rapudo Hawi via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010. The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner, Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert Telephone: +254 720975498 Twitter: rapudohawi Sykpe: rapudo.hawi Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudo blog On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly. Best regards | Christopher Wambua | | Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs | | | | | Tel: +254 20 4242000/209Mobile: +254 703 042209/ +254 730172209 | | P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 | | | | wambua@ca.go.ke Communications Authority of Kenya ca_kenya www.ca.go.ke | | | | Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use by the individual(s) or entity to whom?it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action ?in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Additionally, if you have received this email in error please notify the sender ?immediately by a reply e-mail. | | | From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca.go .ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM To: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear... CA, please help us understand this... Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote: But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.Read on:-http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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Warm greetings! I try to reconcile this "love-hate relationship with Government". Private companies that are not even Kenyan for our esteemed national laws to apply to them who are providers of solutions used by the public have all this personal information. They may choose to transpose it into data. Use it for data analytics and profit from it, with occasional leakage. Yet the hue and cry and backlash e.g data privacy demands etc is not evidenced as much. Would this mean that they are trusted more, are our friends more or cannot be reached at? Considering the widespread and increased usage of technology/tools, it warrants how to enhance trusted relations with Governments. Because Governments will always perform their function - so how does it look like in the tech age? Blessed day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". On Friday, 17 February 2017, 11:07, Rapudo Hawi via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, It is important to take note that this action has been done for length of time with passage of Terrorism Act among other policy initiatives. The only difference is that now it has reached the public domain. The discussions is how we contain this is founded on the freedoms, rights and liberties for Kenya enshrined within the constitution of Kenya 2010. The question that sets out is the public privacy protected and how can be enhanced without being exposed to the threats of cyber security Rapudo Hawi, Social Development Practitioner, Certified Security Specialist and Design Innovation Expert Telephone: +254 720975498 Twitter: rapudohawi Sykpe: rapudo.hawi Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/hawirapudoblog On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Wambua, Christopher via isoc <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers, There is no dishonesty here Ali. This is a case of blatant misrepresentation which we shall be addressing shortly. As I indicated earlier through this list, the DMS is not intrusive and therefore does not infringe on the privacy of mobile telecommunications users. We shall be sharing a comprehensive statement on the system shortly. Best regards | Christopher Wambua | | Ag. Director/Consumer and Public Affairs | Consumer and Public Affairs | | | | | Tel: +254 20 4242000/209Mobile: +254 703 042209/ +254 730172209 | | P.O. Box 14448 Nairobi 00800 | | | | wambua@ca.go.ke Communications Authority of Kenya ca_kenya www.ca.go.ke | | | | Disclaimer: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use by the individual(s) or entity to whom?it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action ?in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. Additionally, if you have received this email in error please notify the sender ?immediately by a reply e-mail. | | | From: kictanet <kictanet-bounces+wambua=ca. go.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Reply-To: KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Date: Friday, February 17, 2017 at 9:49 AM To: Christoper Wambua <wambua@ca.go.ke> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>, ISOC Kenya Chapter <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>, KICTAnet Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: Re: [kictanet] [isoc_ke] Govt to start phone tapping in war on counterfeit trade - Daily Nation What actually shocks me is the dishonesty of all this. We had engaged CA a few weeks ago and the denials were clear... CA, please help us understand this... Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin. com/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle Sent from my iPad On 17 Feb 2017, at 9:27 AM, Grace B <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote: But on what legal basis is the phone tapping being done? The closest connection I can see to the issue of counterfeit devices is the Type Approval Regulations, 2010. If this is the basis, how can subsidiary legislation be used to limit a right like privacy? Could CA clarify on what basis this is happening??? On 16 Feb 2017 8:02 p.m., "Ali Hussein via isoc" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Listers
From Tuesday, the government wants to be allowed to listen to your calls, read your texts and review your mobile money transactions.The government, through the Communications Authority of Kenya, has ordered mobile phone companies to allow it to tap their computers.Read on:-http://www.nation.co.ke/news/G overnment-likely-to-start-phon e-tapping/1056-3816372-m5vnfx/ index.html Ali HusseinPrincipalHussein & Associates+254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassimSkype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.c om/in/alihkassim "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle
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Alex Gakuru
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Ali Hussein
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Barrack Otieno
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Grace B
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Rapudo Hawi
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Wambua, Christopher
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