Re: [ISOC_KE] Fwd: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture
Hi all, This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value. We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school. Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Barrack.
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On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com
wrote:
Wangari, Colleagues,
People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this.
My 50 cents
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>wrote:
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU < wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Happy Sunday!,
A great and simplified read!
The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market.
.".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture."
It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>* wrote:
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34
http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil...
Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world.
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Gideon, How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet. Best Regards On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value.
We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school.
Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Barrack.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Wangari, Colleagues,
People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this.
My 50 cents
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>wrote:
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU < wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Happy Sunday!,
A great and simplified read!
The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market.
.".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture."
It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>* wrote:
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34
http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil...
Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world.
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Speaking of telling stories, and word of mouth, here are details of a project local to me thatinvolves collecting and posting online the reminiscences of elders. http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/36/20/all_oldbrooklynspeaks_2013_05_17_... The site is at: http://www.listeningprojectbrooklyn.com/ Given the recognized need for local content, I don't think it would be too hard to get funding for something like that. There are existing projects that need help going online. j On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Gideon,
How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet.
Best Regards
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value.
We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school.
Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Barrack.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Wangari, Colleagues,
People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this.
My 50 cents
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>wrote:
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU < wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Happy Sunday!,
A great and simplified read!
The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market.
.".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture."
It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>* wrote:
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34
http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil...
Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world.
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Thanks Joly, This is great, i hope our members can run with this ideas. Best Regards On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote:
Speaking of telling stories, and word of mouth, here are details of a project local to me thatinvolves collecting and posting online the reminiscences of elders.
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/36/20/all_oldbrooklynspeaks_2013_05_17_...
The site is at:
http://www.listeningprojectbrooklyn.com/
Given the recognized need for local content, I don't think it would be too hard to get funding for something like that. There are existing projects that need help going online.
j
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Gideon,
How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet.
Best Regards
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value.
We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school.
Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
+1 Barrack.
Regards
*Ali Hussein*
*CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd*
*Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd *
Tel: +254713601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Blog: www.alyhussein.com
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Wangari, Colleagues,
People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this.
My 50 cents
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com>wrote:
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU < wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Happy Sunday!, > > A great and simplified read! > > The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their > consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of > the market. > > .".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth > is extremely important in African culture." > > It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives. > > Have a pleasant day. > > Regards/Wangari > > --- > Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are > Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of > God on Earth". > > > --- On *Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com>* wrote: > > > From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> > Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers > To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> > Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34 > > > http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil... > > > Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for > many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and > disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences > between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson > report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does > help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition > to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important > in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of > mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere > in the world. > > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast > WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com > http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com > VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org > -------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc@lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > >
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Happy Wednesday! I hope you are very well. Let us get the clutter out... what does "local content" look like?? For marketers, we tell them "Qut the Qrap". So no more jargon just tell us what activation means i.e going out into the market-place and doing activities to engage with consumers e.g a roadshow, sampling outside the supermarket. For Financial Analysts as shareholders, just tell us our dividend amount and not the whole 15 pages on the company's performance, break-even, 9digit profitability, ratio of total dividends. We understand things in a cacoon-ised way and based on our interest and mostly exposure. For the Television side, for the longest there was hype that we need "local content"-jargon. It was not until the Television players digested for us what "local content" meant when we got to see one locally produced programs, then many more and quality ones as per their target polunation - Papa, Tahidi that it sunk- ooohhh that is what they meant. Today it is not only drama series that air but music shows, and even advertising which must be what they meant when they said " Television should have local content". So for the internet in Kenya, what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content". Secondly, to whom does it have value i.e who is interested in it and will pay for it. Thirdly, who will be the final user? With this then priorities may be defined, specific strategies may be designed by different entities, collaborations created and communications targeted to specific segments of the population. Let go - what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content and who can/will pay to access it", who is the best person/entity to drive for its development? Which of this top 20 would be ISOC top focus to take on in the short term and in the longterm? This should now support the ISOC leadership in their planning. Have a pleasant day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". --- On Tue, 21/5/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fwd: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: "Gideon" <gideonrop@gmail.com> Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 20:08 Gideon, How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet. Best Regards On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value. We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school. Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: +1 Barrack. Regards Ali HusseinCEO, 3mice interactive media ltd Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Wangari, Colleagues, People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this. My 50 cents On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> wrote: Joly et Wangari,Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Joly et Wangari,Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Happy Sunday!, A great and simplified read! The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market. .".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture." It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives. Have a pleasant day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". --- On Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote: From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34 http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil... Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc -- Faith is a living and unshakable confidence. A belief in God so assured that a man would die a thousand deaths for its sake. -- Faith is a living and unshakable confidence. 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Wangari, Thanks for raising this issue. I dont think it is the Internet Societiets job to develop local content, our work is to create an enabling environment by convening or supporting fora that encourage the use of of local content and partnering with our members and or stakeholders in initiatives that promote local content. A case in point is the swahili wiki project between the Internet Society Kenya Chapter and UNESCO of which you were a member of the team (http://www.isoc-ke.org/wiki/Orodha_Ya_Msamiati). We need for example simple websites that list the shops in our neigbourhoods and what they offer. Did you even know that mama mboga can have a website and list her package of groceries which you can buy online and pay using mpesa after which her boys can deliver and drop through your window as you come from work. The website would be something like (wanja.me.ke)- For your information Wanja made my life simple when i was a Bachelor since i would always find cooked beans and ready vegetables - some sort of plug and play and i sleep. There is a lot of information that we need to get online and the 600 members plus of the Internet Society Kenya Chapter can play a role. Best Regards On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:35 AM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Happy Wednesday!
I hope you are very well.
Let us get the clutter out... what does "local content" look like??
For marketers, we tell them "Qut the Qrap". So no more jargon just tell us what activation means i.e going out into the market-place and doing activities to engage with consumers e.g a roadshow, sampling outside the supermarket. For Financial Analysts as shareholders, just tell us our dividend amount and not the whole 15 pages on the company's performance, break-even, 9digit profitability, ratio of total dividends.
We understand things in a cacoon-ised way and based on our interest and mostly exposure.
For the Television side, for the longest there was hype that we need "local content"-jargon.
It was not until the Television players digested for us what "local content" meant when we got to see one locally produced programs, then many more and quality ones as per their target polunation - Papa, Tahidi that it sunk- ooohhh that is what they meant. Today it is not only drama series that air but music shows, and even advertising which must be what they meant when they said " Television should have local content".
So for the internet in Kenya, what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content". Secondly, to whom does it have value i.e who is interested in it and will pay for it. Thirdly, who will be the final user?
With this then priorities may be defined, specific strategies may be designed by different entities, collaborations created and communications targeted to specific segments of the population.
Let go - what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content and who can/will pay to access it", who is the best person/entity to drive for its development?
Which of this top 20 would be ISOC top focus to take on in the short term and in the longterm? This should now support the ISOC leadership in their planning.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Tue, 21/5/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fwd: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: "Gideon" <gideonrop@gmail.com> Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 20:08
Gideon,
How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet.
Best Regards
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=gideonrop@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value.
We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school.
Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<http://mc/compose?to=ali@hussein.me.ke>
wrote:
+1 Barrack.
Regards
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On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wangari, Colleagues,
People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this.
My 50 cents
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ronojinx@gmail.com>
wrote:
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
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Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Happy Sunday!,
A great and simplified read!
The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market.
.".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture."
It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com<http://mc/compose?to=joly@punkcast.com>
* wrote:
From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com<http://mc/compose?to=joly@punkcast.com>
Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>" < isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34
http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil...
Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world.
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Greetings So far I have got local content as: 1. Stories from the Old using youth collectors (Thanks Joly for the heads up...there's some Nairobi youth on a similar senior citizens project) 2. Language 3. Area Vendors register 4. Websites for micro-businesses 5. Bachelors meals & cooking guide There is definitely a whole food chain that would rely on these, thus there would be need for economic or social value.
From the whole pool of 20 ideas (when we get there), ISOC may identify the priority ones to champion and loop in partners. I would recommend that as Barrack says, ISOC becomes a catalyst and not an implementer to the projects - educating, providing linkages, training, publicity.
Have a pleasant day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". --- On Wed, 22/5/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - What does "local content" look like| Who Finds value - pay| Final Users? To: "WANGARI KABIRU" <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "Gideon" <gideonrop@gmail.com>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Date: Wednesday, 22 May, 2013, 6:33 Wangari, Thanks for raising this issue. I dont think it is the Internet Societiets job to develop local content, our work is to create an enabling environment by convening or supporting fora that encourage the use of of local content and partnering with our members and or stakeholders in initiatives that promote local content. A case in point is the swahili wiki project between the Internet Society Kenya Chapter and UNESCO of which you were a member of the team (http://www.isoc-ke.org/wiki/Orodha_Ya_Msamiati). We need for example simple websites that list the shops in our neigbourhoods and what they offer. Did you even know that mama mboga can have a website and list her package of groceries which you can buy online and pay using mpesa after which her boys can deliver and drop through your window as you come from work. The website would be something like (wanja.me.ke)- For your information Wanja made my life simple when i was a Bachelor since i would always find cooked beans and ready vegetables - some sort of plug and play and i sleep. There is a lot of information that we need to get online and the 600 members plus of the Internet Society Kenya Chapter can play a role. Best Regards On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:35 AM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Happy Wednesday! I hope you are very well. Let us get the clutter out... what does "local content" look like?? For marketers, we tell them "Qut the Qrap". So no more jargon just tell us what activation means i.e going out into the market-place and doing activities to engage with consumers e.g a roadshow, sampling outside the supermarket. For Financial Analysts as shareholders, just tell us our dividend amount and not the whole 15 pages on the company's performance, break-even, 9digit profitability, ratio of total dividends. We understand things in a cacoon-ised way and based on our interest and mostly exposure. For the Television side, for the longest there was hype that we need "local content"-jargon. It was not until the Television players digested for us what "local content" meant when we got to see one locally produced programs, then many more and quality ones as per their target polunation - Papa, Tahidi that it sunk- ooohhh that is what they meant. Today it is not only drama series that air but music shows, and even advertising which must be what they meant when they said " Television should have local content". So for the internet in Kenya, what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content". Secondly, to whom does it have value i.e who is interested in it and will pay for it. Thirdly, who will be the final user? With this then priorities may be defined, specific strategies may be designed by different entities, collaborations created and communications targeted to specific segments of the population. Let go - what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content and who can/will pay to access it", who is the best person/entity to drive for its development? Which of this top 20 would be ISOC top focus to take on in the short term and in the longterm? This should now support the ISOC leadership in their planning. Have a pleasant day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". --- On Tue, 21/5/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fwd: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: "Gideon" <gideonrop@gmail.com> Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 20:08 Gideon, How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet. Best Regards On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com> wrote: Hi all, This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value. We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school. Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote: +1 Barrack. Regards Ali HusseinCEO, 3mice interactive media ltd Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd Tel: +254713601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomoLinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with. On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Wangari, Colleagues, People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this. My 50 cents On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> wrote: Joly et Wangari,Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Joly et Wangari,Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: Happy Sunday!, A great and simplified read! The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market. .".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture." It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives. Have a pleasant day. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth". --- On Sat, 18/5/13, Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> wrote: From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com> Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34 http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil... Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world. -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - http://wwwhatsup.com http://pinstand.com - http://punkcast.com VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org -------------------------------------------------------------- - -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc -- Faith is a living and unshakable confidence. A belief in God so assured that a man would die a thousand deaths for its sake. -- Faith is a living and unshakable confidence. A belief in God so assured that a man would die a thousand deaths for its sake. _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc -- Barrack O. Otieno+254721325277+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otienohttp://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc -- Barrack O. Otieno+254721325277+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otienohttp://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc -- Barrack O. Otieno+254721325277+254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otienohttp://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/
Exactly Wangari, During the forthcoming Internet Governance forum, we plan to include University Students. Among the confirmed partners is I Lab Africa that incubates upcoming businesses and the Kenya Network Information Centre that will encourage more people to get onto .Ke we hope to encourage more people to embrace online businesses. Best Regards On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 8:07 AM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Greetings
So far I have got local content as:
1. Stories from the Old using youth collectors (Thanks Joly for the heads up...there's some Nairobi youth on a similar senior citizens project) 2. Language 3. Area Vendors register 4. Websites for micro-businesses 5. Bachelors meals & cooking guide
There is definitely a whole food chain that would rely on these, thus there would be need for economic or social value.
From the whole pool of 20 ideas (when we get there), ISOC may identify the priority ones to champion and loop in partners. I would recommend that as Barrack says, ISOC becomes a catalyst and not an implementer to the projects - educating, providing linkages, training, publicity.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Wed, 22/5/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - What does "local content" look like| Who Finds value - pay| Final Users? To: "WANGARI KABIRU" <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: "Gideon" <gideonrop@gmail.com>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" < isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Wednesday, 22 May, 2013, 6:33
Wangari,
Thanks for raising this issue. I dont think it is the Internet Societiets job to develop local content, our work is to create an enabling environment by convening or supporting fora that encourage the use of of local content and partnering with our members and or stakeholders in initiatives that promote local content. A case in point is the swahili wiki project between the Internet Society Kenya Chapter and UNESCO of which you were a member of the team (http://www.isoc-ke.org/wiki/Orodha_Ya_Msamiati). We need for example simple websites that list the shops in our neigbourhoods and what they offer. Did you even know that mama mboga can have a website and list her package of groceries which you can buy online and pay using mpesa after which her boys can deliver and drop through your window as you come from work. The website would be something like (wanja.me.ke)- For your information Wanja made my life simple when i was a Bachelor since i would always find cooked beans and ready vegetables - some sort of plug and play and i sleep. There is a lot of information that we need to get online and the 600 members plus of the Internet Society Kenya Chapter can play a role.
Best Regards
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:35 AM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Happy Wednesday!
I hope you are very well.
Let us get the clutter out... what does "local content" look like??
For marketers, we tell them "Qut the Qrap". So no more jargon just tell us what activation means i.e going out into the market-place and doing activities to engage with consumers e.g a roadshow, sampling outside the supermarket. For Financial Analysts as shareholders, just tell us our dividend amount and not the whole 15 pages on the company's performance, break-even, 9digit profitability, ratio of total dividends.
We understand things in a cacoon-ised way and based on our interest and mostly exposure.
For the Television side, for the longest there was hype that we need "local content"-jargon.
It was not until the Television players digested for us what "local content" meant when we got to see one locally produced programs, then many more and quality ones as per their target polunation - Papa, Tahidi that it sunk- ooohhh that is what they meant. Today it is not only drama series that air but music shows, and even advertising which must be what they meant when they said " Television should have local content".
So for the internet in Kenya, what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content". Secondly, to whom does it have value i.e who is interested in it and will pay for it. Thirdly, who will be the final user?
With this then priorities may be defined, specific strategies may be designed by different entities, collaborations created and communications targeted to specific segments of the population.
Let go - what are the twenty (20) expressions of "local internet content and who can/will pay to access it", who is the best person/entity to drive for its development?
Which of this top 20 would be ISOC top focus to take on in the short term and in the longterm? This should now support the ISOC leadership in their planning.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
--- On *Tue, 21/5/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
* wrote:
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fwd: Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: "Gideon" <gideonrop@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=gideonrop@gmail.com>
Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>" < isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> Date: Tuesday, 21 May, 2013, 20:08
Gideon,
How many Kenyans reach University? i think we need a better strategy of reaching out to the marginalised and enabling them to tell their story or connect to the world through the Internet.
Best Regards
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Gideon <gideonrop@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=gideonrop@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi all,
This is an interesting report, the idea is how to transfer the "word of mouth" online, so that content is massive. We have real and untapped content that would be great as a resource and can then be turned to monetary value.
We still have a challenge in content harnessing and development, if we can translate this sooner to tangible repository then we shall be advancing. I still believe in starting at the university so that its embedded as DNA at school.
Gideon Rop, DotConnectAfrica
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<http://mc/compose?to=ali@hussein.me.ke>
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+1 Barrack.
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On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wangari, Colleagues,
People buy value, i think we need to encourage uptake of local content and greater consumption of digital products, this way the numbers will grow automatically? why is it that we have close to 30 million mobile phone subscibers and 16 Million Internet users? why would more people own gadgets and fail to use a service that can be enable on the gadget?. the cost of connectivity is high because we are consumers of foreign content hence we are charged for riding on foreign networks. We need to encourage generation and greater use of more local content, i am glad this is part of the governments plans. As Internet Society members we need to to be at the forefront of encouraging people in our villages and neighbourhoods to get online, one person at a time. ISOC has a goal of ensuring 70% of Internet traffic resides within the continent by 2020. I think we should work with all relevant stakeholders such as TESPOK, BAKE, IHUB, CCK KICTB and Ministry of Infocom to achieve this.
My 50 cents
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=ronojinx@gmail.com>
wrote:
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
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Date: Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers - word of mouth is extremely important in African culture To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Joly et Wangari, Quite an interesting read and an eye opener...however,i try to correlate the data with world internet stats internet penetration rates and major discrepancies arise. We in Kenya still lag behind and as ISOC_KE, need to play a major role to ensure the education divide that is prevalent is eliminated. Regards R.O
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 1:25 PM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk<http://mc/compose?to=wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
Happy Sunday!,
A great and simplified read!
The abstract has great insights even for other sectors wrt their consumers and how to segment them intelligently due to the uniqueness of the market.
.".In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture."
It will be exciting to hear at the IGFs the economic perspectives.
Have a pleasant day.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".
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From: Joly MacFie <joly@punkcast.com<http://mc/compose?to=joly@punkcast.com>
Subject: [ISOC_KE] Neilsen Report on African Consumers To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>" < isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>> Date: Saturday, 18 May, 2013, 12:34
http://www.idgconnect.com/abstract/1699/analysis-social-media-advanced-mobil...
Part of the reason doing business in Africa is such a challenge for many people outside the region is because the continent is so vast and disparate. There is also often a lot of ignorance on the differences between various countries from people in the West. Although this Neilson report is a trifle simplistic and based exclusively on consumers, it does help provide a cohesive overview of the marketplace as a whole. In addition to which, it rams home the point that word of mouth is extremely important in African culture. In the ‘Savvier’ areas this extends to ‘virtual word of mouth’ but recommendations are still highlighted as more key than elsewhere in the world.
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