Re: [ISOC_KE] Shooting the messenger?
From: ggithaiga@hotmail.com To: alice@apc.org CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Shooting the messenger? Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:24:57 +0000 Good morning Listers I hope your week is starting well. Last week, we held a f2f breakfast meeting to discuss intermediary liability in Kenya. As promised by Alice, we would like to continue with this discussion for this week. As Kenya prepares for elections next year, and with all the political alignments taking place, we are likely to see intermediaries being blamed for carrying utterances of our politicians. The media has been blamed many times by politicians for ‘misquoting’ them yet in many instances there is video footage to confirm that the politicians did indeed say certain things. For those who watched the youtube video that ridiculed Prophet Muhammad and resulted in the killing of Christopher Stephens, the US ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff by angry protesters (or lynch mob as some people called them), who would you say was wrong or where would you place the responsibility for this eventuality? Would you say it is the video producers or or youtube or who? Lets hear it from you listers. A wonderful week to all of you.RgdsGG
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:19:04 +0300 From: alice@apc.org Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear Chip and all
Thank you for sharing these valuable resources to enrich intermediary liability discussions.
However, we have a more pressing issue to discuss, our "mobile switch off" (and here's a great article on that http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and...)
We will focus on that for a while and come back to the internet liability discussion after the breakfast meeting on 10th October. But this should not stop any lister from posting an opinion on the issue.
Best Alice
Thanks Grace The breakfast Discussion were very fruitful and we need to keep the discussion going. There is need to put some level of responsibility to the person or institution that is the source of the content. Some will send out content for monetary gains and otherwise. The society must have mechanisms of shaping itself up at all levels Jane ________________________________ From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: ikua.evans@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Shooting the messenger? ________________________________ From: ggithaiga@hotmail.com To: alice@apc.org CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Shooting the messenger? Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:24:57 +0000 Good morning Listers I hope your week is starting well. Last week, we held a f2f breakfast meeting to discuss intermediary liability in Kenya. As promised by Alice, we would like to continue with this discussion for this week. As Kenya prepares for elections next year, and with all the political alignments taking place, we are likely to see intermediaries being blamed for carrying utterances of our politicians. The media has been blamed many times by politicians for ‘misquoting’ them yet in many instances there is video footage to confirm that the politicians did indeed say certain things. For those who watched the youtube video that ridiculed Prophet Muhammad and resulted in the killing of Christopher Stephens, the US ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff by angry protesters (or lynch mob as some people called them), who would you say was wrong or where would you place the responsibility for this eventuality? Would you say it is the video producers or or youtube or who? Lets hear it from you listers. A wonderful week to all of you. Rgds GG
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:19:04 +0300 From: alice@apc.org Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear Chip and all
Thank you for sharing these valuable resources to enrich intermediary liability discussions.
However, we have a more pressing issue to discuss, our "mobile switch off" (and here's a great article on that http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and...)
We will focus on that for a while and come back to the internet liability discussion after the breakfast meeting on 10th October. But this should not stop any lister from posting an opinion on the issue.
Best Alice
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Thanks Jane. Yes the discussions during the face to face meeting were such an eye opener. Your comments have been noted. Listers, do you agree with Jane that some level of responsibility should be placed on the person/institution that is the source of the content? RgdsGrace Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:55:43 -0700 From: nnfeischools@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Shooting the messenger? To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com; isoc@lists.my.co.ke CC: ikua.evans@gmail.com Thanks GraceThe breakfast Discussion were very fruitful and we need to keep the discussion going. There is need to put some level of responsibility to the person or institution that is the source of the content. Some will send out content for monetary gains and otherwise. The society must have mechanisms of shaping itself up at all levels Jane From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> To: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Cc: ikua.evans@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Shooting the messenger? From: ggithaiga@hotmail.com To: alice@apc.org CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Subject: Shooting the messenger? Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 04:24:57 +0000 Good morning Listers I hope your week is starting well. Last week, we held a f2f breakfast meeting to discuss intermediary liability in Kenya. As promised by Alice, we would like to continue with this discussion for this week. As Kenya prepares for elections next year, and with all the political alignments taking place, we are likely to see intermediaries being blamed for carrying utterances of our politicians. The media has been blamed many times by politicians for ‘misquoting’ them yet in many instances there is video footage to confirm that the politicians did indeed say certain things. For those who watched the youtube video that ridiculed Prophet Muhammad and resulted in the killing of Christopher Stephens, the US ambassador to Libya and three American members of his staff by angry protesters (or lynch mob as some people called them), who would you say was wrong or where would you place the responsibility for this eventuality? Would you say it is the video producers or or youtube or who? Lets hear it from you listers. A wonderful week to all of you.RgdsGG
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 17:19:04 +0300 From: alice@apc.org Subject: Re: [kictanet] Discussion intermediary liability in Kenya CC: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Dear Chip and all
Thank you for sharing these valuable resources to enrich intermediary liability discussions.
However, we have a more pressing issue to discuss, our "mobile switch off" (and here's a great article on that http://www.ihub.co.ke/blog/2012/10/phones-switch-off-how-it-was-done-why-and...)
We will focus on that for a while and come back to the internet liability discussion after the breakfast meeting on 10th October. But
this should not stop any lister from posting an opinion on the issue.
Best Alice
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Absolutely a good information system operates under a sound policy framework at the very least if it is to be of use to the society. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: Grace Githaiga <ggithaiga@hotmail.com> Sender: isoc-bounces@orion.my.co.ke Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 06:00:45 To: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>; isoc@orion.my.co.ke<isoc@orion.my.co.ke> Subject: [ISOC_KE] Shooting the messenger? _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@orion.my.co.ke http://orion.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
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