Happy Tuesday! Strange things happen with the right business incentive - like our mobile companies coming together on this matter! Yesterday DN cited that CCK would compensate providers for cost associated with this process. However the good compensation is not rolling on to the consumers. Ports of entry are not manned by civilians! The government has a role. Any chance this is a replay of the generic medicine sagas years back when generics were taking over the market for major players thus were being labeled as fakes? Today, the generics save many lives within our communities. Will this give undue reason to stifle entry by new phone providers or even local innovators? Will this now kill-out the many entrepreneurs running mobile shops across the country as consumer confidence is lost due to the bad PR in favour of service provider shops and dealerships? The "Unspoken" is speaking louder than the spoken in this matter. Surprisingly COFEK has taken a back-seat on this and it hits directly at consumers pockets. The big question that is not being answered is still how and why we got here. With all the said health and security issues being given now on the counterfeit phones how comes the relevant agencies did not act before to curtail entry into the country. Why did telcoms enable the phones in the first place? Unless this information is a new science discovery. By the time a consignment of counterfeit products is in the high seas and getting into Kenya, the original manufacturer or Kenyan agency using their own internal intelligence is more often than not already aware . Even for counterfeit food products, most are nipped before being disposed into the mass market. It hurts your business and one of the principles in business is protecting your niche. Unless we say manufacturers are not intelligence savvy or have other market interests. This puts a lot of weight weight to the school of thought that the counterfeit industry is a sector on its own. This may mean that it is promoted not only by the counterfeit manufacturer and consumer but by other silent stakeholders. Yes, it is possible to be holding one of the "counterfeit phones" considering that most of the purchases in Kenya are done in the many mini-phone shops spread across our towns. And the phones have as many stickers indicating "original" and warranty forms as the ones in the main phone dealers shop! Driving this conversation on to internet spread, it means that one of the days, the drive will be on counterfeit computers - the main tool for internet access across our communities (The phone is also increasingly in use). We need to start managing key questions; Whats the implication in making the internet for all? Whats the mitigation? and many more. Have a great week. Regards/Wangari --- Pray God Bless. 2012Wangari circa - "Heaven moves into the world through thespirit of those who are willing to serve". --- On Mon, 1/10/12, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fake phones switch-off To: "Tom Oketch" <tomoketch@gmail.com> Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Monday, 1 October, 2012, 7:52 Losing over 600,000 subscribers has major implications on telcos in any case this seems like a human rights issue :-) On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Tom Oketch <tomoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Liz, I've been curious as well but none in my network has had his or hers switched off including those I suspected would breathe last midnight. I think they have silently extended the period.
On 1 October 2012 08:54, Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
listers, Out of curiosity. Has anyone had his/her device locked out of the networks?
best regards.
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You raise interesting points Wangari i wonder what are the pros of retaining the status quo. Best Regards On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Happy Tuesday!
Strange things happen with the right business incentive - like our mobile companies coming together on this matter! Yesterday DN cited that CCK would compensate providers for cost associated with this process. However the good compensation is not rolling on to the consumers.
Ports of entry are not manned by civilians! The government has a role.
Any chance this is a replay of the generic medicine sagas years back when generics were taking over the market for major players thus were being labeled as fakes? Today, the generics save many lives within our communities.
Will this give undue reason to stifle entry by new phone providers or even local innovators? Will this now kill-out the many entrepreneurs running mobile shops across the country as consumer confidence is lost due to the bad PR in favour of service provider shops and dealerships?
The "Unspoken" is speaking louder than the spoken in this matter.
Surprisingly COFEK has taken a back-seat on this and it hits directly at consumers pockets. The big question that is not being answered is still how and why we got here.
With all the said health and security issues being given now on the counterfeit phones how comes the relevant agencies did not act before to curtail entry into the country. Why did telcoms enable the phones in the first place? Unless this information is a new science discovery.
By the time a consignment of counterfeit products is in the high seas and getting into Kenya, the original manufacturer or Kenyan agency using their own internal intelligence is more often than not already aware . Even for counterfeit food products, most are nipped before being disposed into the mass market. It hurts your business and one of the principles in business is protecting your niche. Unless we say manufacturers are not intelligence savvy or have other market interests.
This puts a lot of weight weight to the school of thought that the counterfeit industry is a sector on its own. This may mean that it is promoted not only by the counterfeit manufacturer and consumer but by other silent stakeholders.
Yes, it is possible to be holding one of the "counterfeit phones" considering that most of the purchases in Kenya are done in the many mini-phone shops spread across our towns. And the phones have as many stickers indicating "original" and warranty forms as the ones in the main phone dealers shop!
Driving this conversation on to internet spread, it means that one of the days, the drive will be on counterfeit computers - the main tool for internet access across our communities (The phone is also increasingly in use).
We need to start managing key questions; Whats the implication in making the internet for all? Whats the mitigation? and many more.
Have a great week.
Regards/Wangari
--- Pray God Bless. 2012Wangari circa - "Heaven moves into the world through thespirit of those who are willing to serve".
--- On *Mon, 1/10/12, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>* wrote:
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fake phones switch-off To: "Tom Oketch" <tomoketch@gmail.com> Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Date: Monday, 1 October, 2012, 7:52
Losing over 600,000 subscribers has major implications on telcos in any case this seems like a human rights issue :-)
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:44 AM, Tom Oketch <tomoketch@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Liz, I've been curious as well but none in my network has had his or hers switched off including those I suspected would breathe last midnight. I think they have silently extended the period.
On 1 October 2012 08:54, Liz Orembo <lizorembo@gmail.com> wrote:
listers, Out of curiosity. Has anyone had his/her device locked out of the networks?
best regards.
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-- Tom Oketch Executive Director La Vie Foundation P. O. Box 2160-00200 Nairobi. Tel: +(254) 722-849 120 (Kenya) +(252) 24774257 (Somaliland) E-mail: tomoketch@gmail.com Website: www.laviefoundation.org FaceBook Page: www.facebook.com/laviefoundation Programmes: Entrepreneurship & Other Trainings; Elderly and Ageing Persons Care; Information Management and Dissemination; Local and International Volunteerism; Peace Building, Disaster Management and Relief Services.
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