Dear Charles Colleagues, I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter. On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:11 +0300 From: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> To: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAFKidnkhboxG0n6Lt8ignC6S1= EGV+2Y6CH7xbJymNdpKY_zVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: < CAM8DdeXUKG12yUwk1x2uZjrghM+K+MY4JN4sOXTgGO04HSM01g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Dear Colleagues, I share Barrack's sentiments, but in my humble opinion, as much as we would like to focus on activities that will drive ISOC's mission, we must appreciate that there has to be a starting point, which involves people and setting up initial structures of ISOC_KE. We are still at this point, and through inclusive direction from the leadership, we shall achieve our objectives locally, in complementing the general vision and mission of ISOC. That being said, its actually the capacity to facilitate/drive some responsibilites and assignments that needs to be elavated in some of us, so that we move at a faster rate. By this I mean the new members, especially university students who are a good target group to increase membership in the various groups/committees, who can devote more of their time in their volunteership (I base this assumption on the challenge of getting active participation of those members who are in working class and engaged most in their day jobs) Personally, I have volunteered in IPv6 and Event management groups, which will play a role in the awareness of ISOC KE's existence as a stakeholder in Kenya's Internet industry, and help in the success of the anticipated launch of ISOCKE. However, I feel that the mentorship to guide me in my assignments so that I give back valuable feedback and inputs is not felt, unless I put in a lot of effort and time. This is real challenge. I am open to critisims and mentorship, but I am willing to learn the dynamics of group engagements and participate in making ISOC KE successful in achieving its mission in Kenya. I will be closely working with Kelvin, and all other members, as I get versed with previous minutes and the by laws. -- Regards, Greg -------- Life is not a rehearsal, you only live once! On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Charles Colleagues,
I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:11 +0300 From: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> To: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAFKidnkhboxG0n6Lt8ignC6S1= EGV+2Y6CH7xbJymNdpKY_zVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: < CAM8DdeXUKG12yUwk1x2uZjrghM+K+MY4JN4sOXTgGO04HSM01g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
+ 1 Gregory, the sky is the limit. Best Regards On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Colleagues, I share Barrack's sentiments, but in my humble opinion, as much as we would like to focus on activities that will drive ISOC's mission, we must appreciate that there has to be a starting point, which involves people and setting up initial structures of ISOC_KE. We are still at this point, and through inclusive direction from the leadership, we shall achieve our objectives locally, in complementing the general vision and mission of ISOC.
That being said, its actually the capacity to facilitate/drive some responsibilites and assignments that needs to be elavated in some of us, so that we move at a faster rate. By this I mean the new members, especially university students who are a good target group to increase membership in the various groups/committees, who can devote more of their time in their volunteership (I base this assumption on the challenge of getting active participation of those members who are in working class and engaged most in their day jobs)
Personally, I have volunteered in IPv6 and Event management groups, which will play a role in the awareness of ISOC KE's existence as a stakeholder in Kenya's Internet industry, and help in the success of the anticipated launch of ISOCKE. However, I feel that the mentorship to guide me in my assignments so that I give back valuable feedback and inputs is not felt, unless I put in a lot of effort and time. This is real challenge. I am open to critisims and mentorship, but I am willing to learn the dynamics of group engagements and participate in making ISOC KE successful in achieving its mission in Kenya. I will be closely working with Kelvin, and all other members, as I get versed with previous minutes and the by laws.
-- Regards, Greg -------- Life is not a rehearsal, you only live once!
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Dear Charles Colleagues,
I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:11 +0300 From: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> To: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAFKidnkhboxG0n6Lt8ignC6S1= EGV+2Y6CH7xbJymNdpKY_zVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
------------------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: < CAM8DdeXUKG12yUwk1x2uZjrghM+K+MY4JN4sOXTgGO04HSM01g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Dear all, Thanks to all who contributed to this important discussion. Working with volunteers is very rewarding, but it can indeed also be a challenge at times. This is why we have developed a Chapter Toolkit on this topic, called "Tools for Mobilising Volunteers". The toolkit can be downloaded here: http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/chapters/lead/chapter-resources#ch... We hope that this will help you get many more volunteers involved so that the Chapter's responsibilities and work can be shared among more people. Best regards, Christine --------------------------------------------------------------- Internet Society (ISOC) Christine Saegesser Baethge Sr. Manager, Chapter Development Website: www.InternetSociety.org --------------------------------------------------------------- On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Barrack Otieno wrote:
+ 1 Gregory, the sky is the limit.
Best Regards
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Colleagues, I share Barrack's sentiments, but in my humble opinion, as much as we would like to focus on activities that will drive ISOC's mission, we must appreciate that there has to be a starting point, which involves people and setting up initial structures of ISOC_KE. We are still at this point, and through inclusive direction from the leadership, we shall achieve our objectives locally, in complementing the general vision and mission of ISOC.
That being said, its actually the capacity to facilitate/drive some responsibilites and assignments that needs to be elavated in some of us, so that we move at a faster rate. By this I mean the new members, especially university students who are a good target group to increase membership in the various groups/committees, who can devote more of their time in their volunteership (I base this assumption on the challenge of getting active participation of those members who are in working class and engaged most in their day jobs)
Personally, I have volunteered in IPv6 and Event management groups, which will play a role in the awareness of ISOC KE's existence as a stakeholder in Kenya's Internet industry, and help in the success of the anticipated launch of ISOCKE. However, I feel that the mentorship to guide me in my assignments so that I give back valuable feedback and inputs is not felt, unless I put in a lot of effort and time. This is real challenge. I am open to critisims and mentorship, but I am willing to learn the dynamics of group engagements and participate in making ISOC KE successful in achieving its mission in Kenya. I will be closely working with Kelvin, and all other members, as I get versed with previous minutes and the by laws.
-- Regards, Greg -------- Life is not a rehearsal, you only live once!
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Charles Colleagues,
I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:11 +0300 From: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> To: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAFKidnkhboxG0n6Lt8ignC6S1=EGV+2Y6CH7xbJymNdpKY_zVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAM8DdeXUKG12yUwk1x2uZjrghM+K+MY4JN4sOXTgGO04HSM01g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Thanks Christine for the timely rejoinder. Best Regards On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Christine Saegesser <saegesser@isoc.org>wrote:
Dear all,
Thanks to all who contributed to this important discussion. Working with volunteers is very rewarding, but it can indeed also be a challenge at times. This is why we have developed a Chapter Toolkit on this topic, called "Tools for Mobilising Volunteers".
The toolkit can be downloaded here:
http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/chapters/lead/chapter-resources#ch...
We hope that this will help you get many more volunteers involved so that the Chapter's responsibilities and work can be shared among more people.
Best regards,
Christine
--------------------------------------------------------------- Internet Society (ISOC) Christine Saegesser Baethge Sr. Manager, Chapter Development Website: www.InternetSociety.org ---------------------------------------------------------------
On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Barrack Otieno wrote:
+ 1 Gregory, the sky is the limit.
Best Regards
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Colleagues, I share Barrack's sentiments, but in my humble opinion, as much as we would like to focus on activities that will drive ISOC's mission, we must appreciate that there has to be a starting point, which involves people and setting up initial structures of ISOC_KE. We are still at this point, and through inclusive direction from the leadership, we shall achieve our objectives locally, in complementing the general vision and mission of ISOC.
That being said, its actually the capacity to facilitate/drive some responsibilites and assignments that needs to be elavated in some of us, so that we move at a faster rate. By this I mean the new members, especially university students who are a good target group to increase membership in the various groups/committees, who can devote more of their time in their volunteership (I base this assumption on the challenge of getting active participation of those members who are in working class and engaged most in their day jobs)
Personally, I have volunteered in IPv6 and Event management groups, which will play a role in the awareness of ISOC KE's existence as a stakeholder in Kenya's Internet industry, and help in the success of the anticipated launch of ISOCKE. However, I feel that the mentorship to guide me in my assignments so that I give back valuable feedback and inputs is not felt, unless I put in a lot of effort and time. This is real challenge. I am open to critisims and mentorship, but I am willing to learn the dynamics of group engagements and participate in making ISOC KE successful in achieving its mission in Kenya. I will be closely working with Kelvin, and all other members, as I get versed with previous minutes and the by laws.
-- Regards, Greg -------- Life is not a rehearsal, you only live once!
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Charles Colleagues,
I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:11 +0300 From: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> To: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAFKidnkhboxG0n6Lt8ignC6S1= EGV+2Y6CH7xbJymNdpKY_zVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
------------------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: < CAM8DdeXUKG12yUwk1x2uZjrghM+K+MY4JN4sOXTgGO04HSM01g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Thank you all for the immediate valuable responses! This is encouraging. Let me get down to business with what I have for now. On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
Thanks Christine for the timely rejoinder.
Best Regards
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Christine Saegesser <saegesser@isoc.org>wrote:
Dear all,
Thanks to all who contributed to this important discussion. Working with volunteers is very rewarding, but it can indeed also be a challenge at times. This is why we have developed a Chapter Toolkit on this topic, called "Tools for Mobilising Volunteers".
The toolkit can be downloaded here:
http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/chapters/lead/chapter-resources#ch...
We hope that this will help you get many more volunteers involved so that the Chapter's responsibilities and work can be shared among more people.
Best regards,
Christine
--------------------------------------------------------------- Internet Society (ISOC) Christine Saegesser Baethge Sr. Manager, Chapter Development Website: www.InternetSociety.org ---------------------------------------------------------------
On Aug 27, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Barrack Otieno wrote:
+ 1 Gregory, the sky is the limit.
Best Regards
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Gregory Okoth < gregory.okoth@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Colleagues, I share Barrack's sentiments, but in my humble opinion, as much as we would like to focus on activities that will drive ISOC's mission, we must appreciate that there has to be a starting point, which involves people and setting up initial structures of ISOC_KE. We are still at this point, and through inclusive direction from the leadership, we shall achieve our objectives locally, in complementing the general vision and mission of ISOC.
That being said, its actually the capacity to facilitate/drive some responsibilites and assignments that needs to be elavated in some of us, so that we move at a faster rate. By this I mean the new members, especially university students who are a good target group to increase membership in the various groups/committees, who can devote more of their time in their volunteership (I base this assumption on the challenge of getting active participation of those members who are in working class and engaged most in their day jobs)
Personally, I have volunteered in IPv6 and Event management groups, which will play a role in the awareness of ISOC KE's existence as a stakeholder in Kenya's Internet industry, and help in the success of the anticipated launch of ISOCKE. However, I feel that the mentorship to guide me in my assignments so that I give back valuable feedback and inputs is not felt, unless I put in a lot of effort and time. This is real challenge. I am open to critisims and mentorship, but I am willing to learn the dynamics of group engagements and participate in making ISOC KE successful in achieving its mission in Kenya. I will be closely working with Kelvin, and all other members, as I get versed with previous minutes and the by laws.
-- Regards, Greg -------- Life is not a rehearsal, you only live once!
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno < otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Charles Colleagues,
I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM, <isoc-request@lists.my.co.ke> wrote: Send isoc mailing list submissions to isoc@lists.my.co.ke
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:04:11 +0300 From: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> To: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: <CAFKidnkhboxG0n6Lt8ignC6S1= EGV+2Y6CH7xbJymNdpKY_zVA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
------------------------------
Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID: < CAM8DdeXUKG12yUwk1x2uZjrghM+K+MY4JN4sOXTgGO04HSM01g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
Dear all, Thank you Barrack for words of wisdom. Greg too!
From the point of view of one of those "watching things", I can tell you that ISOC-Ke is doing well and growing. For the very active ones, please take heart and keep on with the good work. At the end of the day, it is volunteers who steer any organisation although everyone in the organisation takes credit. We can only hope that for every activity, members keep showing up and doing their part according to their capacity. Remember that this is a voluntary and open organisation.
I would like to attend the monthly face to face meetings but the timings conflict with work, so would many others. However, in the Internet space, even contributions made online are valuable and should be taken into consideration. Again, there are many members in this list who will take up tasks to the benefit of the organisation when need be and the fact that they seem silent should not be taken as being passive- they are our resources! On Committees, Structures etc, please let us hold on for a moment. There is no urgency to have all the Committees in place at this time. But as the activities increase, people according to their capacities will naturally take up roles. At the moment it serves us better to inspire each other and look out for activities that could help us bond. In my view, this is more important than having titles to our names. Thank you everyone again for the work you are doing, both front and in the background. Cheers! 2012/8/27 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>:
+ 1 Gregory, the sky is the limit.
Best Regards
On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Gregory Okoth <gregory.okoth@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Colleagues, I share Barrack's sentiments, but in my humble opinion, as much as we would like to focus on activities that will drive ISOC's mission, we must appreciate that there has to be a starting point, which involves people and setting up initial structures of ISOC_KE. We are still at this point, and through inclusive direction from the leadership, we shall achieve our objectives locally, in complementing the general vision and mission of ISOC.
That being said, its actually the capacity to facilitate/drive some responsibilites and assignments that needs to be elavated in some of us, so that we move at a faster rate. By this I mean the new members, especially university students who are a good target group to increase membership in the various groups/committees, who can devote more of their time in their volunteership (I base this assumption on the challenge of getting active participation of those members who are in working class and engaged most in their day jobs)
Personally, I have volunteered in IPv6 and Event management groups, which will play a role in the awareness of ISOC KE's existence as a stakeholder in Kenya's Internet industry, and help in the success of the anticipated launch of ISOCKE. However, I feel that the mentorship to guide me in my assignments so that I give back valuable feedback and inputs is not felt, unless I put in a lot of effort and time. This is real challenge. I am open to critisims and mentorship, but I am willing to learn the dynamics of group engagements and participate in making ISOC KE successful in achieving its mission in Kenya. I will be closely working with Kelvin, and all other members, as I get versed with previous minutes and the by laws.
-- Regards, Greg -------- Life is not a rehearsal, you only live once!
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Charles Colleagues,
I think we should shift our mindsets from people to activities and issues. I have refrained from engaging in any such debates and have been told that my silence is raising concern and i would like to point out the following. That we should aquaint ourselves with the Internet Societies Mission, Vision and objectives http://www.internetsociety.org/. All our activities should be geared towards shaping the future of the Internet. You all realise that there are a myriad of issues when it comes to shaping the future of the Internet, some will require techies and some will require activists, it is upon members to know where they belong and to respect each other, advocates and activists should not misconstrue the silence of techies to mean they are not active or disinterested, there is a time and a season for every skillset. On another note i would propose that we all get acquainted with our bylaws which are on the mailing list as approved by the Internet Society it is important that we respect the governance structures being formed, at the same time those priviledged to be in leadership positions should be carefull to exercise their responsibilities with diligence and respect for other members in our quest for one internet for all, we must strive to be mentors to each other and encourage the faint hearted to come along. It is imperative that we also understand group dynamics since we are not from the same village, some have to go uphill everymorning some have to go downhill whereas others are stationary which explains the way we react to issues. Finally let us focus on sprucing up our strategic plan so that we may take advantage of the synergies we have , many thanks Ronald for taking a lead on Research and Paul for taking a lead on IPv6, i also commend those who have been active in commenting on public policy issues, let us keep the fire burning and ensure that the Internet is for everyone. As i close i wish to thank Anne Gatende and QNET for sponsoring a venue for our meetings, Phares Kariuki for hosting our mailing list, the I-Hub for always providing a meeting venue whenever we have events, Liz for your consistency in running our Secretariat, Mark Misiko for your consistency in running our facebook page which has 311 members, Charles Oloo for maintaining our website and many others whom i have not acknowledged but who continue to play crucial roles in the Internet Society Kenya Chapter.
On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers
@Kelvin, @Liz, @Ronald, @Wangare.
Thanks for the elated discussions. This is very encouraging. @Kelvin, thanks for reconsidering your position and willingness to avail more time to play a lead role in the chapter activities. That is the main constrain. It is unfortunate that we have many members but only few are volunteering actively. However, the chapter, with the few active volunteers, continues to lay down strategies to operationalize chapter activities. Some of these strategies were adopted in the last meeting.
It would be a disservice to the chapter, for a meeting to pass a resolution, to assist the chapter move forward, and later a member who knew about the meeting and never attended, brings in another dimension that overrides the agenda that was passed. This tends to bog people down, cause discouragement and therefore causes delays in achieving chapters plans. It would be vital to follow developments and activities and also participate, seek appraisal and clarity on unclear issues and the goings on, so that we don’t create bottlenecks, but be part of the growth.
Let us be consistent, otherwise we might play towards no goal at all, and take too long to even achieve the simplest tasks.
It appears that, the key agenda will be Outreach and recruitment of passionate volunteers who would add value by actively participating in chapter activities, rather than passive membership. These are the resources that are necessary to drive the chapter forward.
There is so much in store for the chapter to accomplish. We need to operate in a structured manner, both contributions and suggestions should be filed in during the request/call time. When time passes, further contributions should be taken forward, otherwise we can spend a whole century discussion and at the end achieve nothing.
I think we need to operationalize the adopted workplan. We should do so in the next meeting. Let us continue with the contributions will be compiled for consideration for inclusion in the document for the final adoption.
It is time that we also make efforts to for internet access during meeting to make it possible for remote participation.
Charles Oloo
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Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 16:25:17 +0300 From: Tomslin Samme-Nlar <s.tomsleen@gmail.com> To: kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> Cc: isoc@lists.my.co.ke Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Comittees Message-ID:
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Hi Kelvin,
I have been unable to attend previous meetings but I'll like to volunteer in this sub-committee
Tomslin
www.onelifeconsult.com www.vmbgmusik.com
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 4:04 PM, kelvin githira <kgithira@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Following our most recent meeting, issues in regards to the sub Committees was raised, and noted that some could be moving slowly due to various constraints, as well as the fact that we do not have many active members hence the few we have end up with big junks of work loads. i would advice that the membership committee to be more vibrant and ensure that we recruit more and more members who will in turn assist this chapter in one way or another. this can be done through a mini campaign dubbed maybe recruitment drive and probably visit the campus or colleges interact with the students and at the end of the day look out for volunteers.
Another sub committee was proposed " PR & Communications " this Committee will be tasked with the following on behalf of isoc.ke.
1. Increase public understanding and recognition of the contributions of isoc in the Society 2. Collaborate with the divisions, local sections, other Society units and committees, individual members of the Society, and external organizations to enhance the public recognition and prestige of isoc Society 3. Encourage and facilitate the training and participation of isoc members in effective communications and public relations efforts 4. Inform the isoc Council/elected office of the Committee?s activities
this are just a few that came to mind however as time goes by i believe there is room for changes. i do ask members who wish to volunteer in this to please do so and we can move forward.
regards, kelvin _______________________________________________ isoc mailing list isoc@lists.my.co.ke http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
participants (4)
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Barrack Otieno -
Christine Saegesser -
Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) -
Gregory Okoth