On the Objects: To represent Kenyan Internet Community in fora that deal with Internet Governace is a blanket provision that shall enable the society to give positions when need arises. To work together with other bodies with similar objects is an objects is also a blanket provision to enable the Society partner with other organisations.... Do you think there is a way we can improve these provisions? Do we need other objects? I also noted that so far we are silent on borrowing, ie taking loans...please give your views on the same. Cheers! 2011/9/7 McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>
Good work Grace!
I think we need to do some work on The Society’s objects:
*a) to promote realization of a safe, open Internet for all Kenyans;*
this is non-controversial
*b) to represent the Kenyan Internet community in fora that deal with governance of the Internet;* * * We already have 2 members of the GAC from KE, various folk participate in IETF and RIR meetings, lots of ppl active in IGF, etc. Does ISOC KE have legitimacy to "to represent the Kenyan Internet community"??
What about an ICANN At-Large Structure, do we want to join ICANN At-Large??
*c) to promote development of Internet in Kenya through, among others, trainings and public education;*
What sort of trainings do we want to do?
*d) to promote development of Internet standards in Kenya;* * * This is ambiguous, are we saying we want to help kenyans become involved in IETF and W3C activities? It suggests we want to develop our own standards here in Kenya, at least that is one interpretation of the sentence. * * * e) to work together with other Kenyan and international bodies with the similar objects.* * * * * While non-controversial this is fairly meaningless. * * * * *--
Cheers,
McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel * * * * * On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:33 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
I have done some work on the by-laws. Please have a look and give your comments. Please note that I have also tried to incorporate the guidelines given by the Societie's Act Regulations (see www.kenyalaw.org) hence some references to Kenya,use of the name society and so on. Cheers!
2011/9/6 Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com>
In that case please lets think of how to distribute duties between the
two
bodies. We must create a relationship that avoids conflict....suggestions???
2011/9/6 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Grace Imho, we need a board or an entity that can accomodate pioneers of the internet in Kenya or founding members that McTim had mentioned, my two ip addresses :-)
On 9/6/11, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
quick question, Shall we have both a board and officers(chair, secretary treasurer?) Joly raised this concern in an earlier email, I also raised it but we seem to have no conclusive answer on that..
2011/9/6 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Well done Grace and thank you for the sound legal advice.
On 9/6/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: > McTim, > > Interesting question if you know of any we will duly recognise
them
> as > founding members I don't see a problem with that, we have Michuki, > Gakuru, Alice, Shem Ochuodho, Vincent among others whom I may not be > able to mention, they will received due recognition in the hall of > fame. > > On 9/6/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: >> Thanks McTim, Grace we look forward to your guidance, I wonder >> whether >> there is a way we can vote online or do a survey to establish what >> members want anyone to guide us on the list? >> >> On 9/6/11, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Barrack Otieno >>> <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> McTim, we got 25 registered members >>>> on
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MVV...
, >>>> thanks to Judy, what is the next step, Grace, have you looked at >>>> the >>>> bylaws?, listers kindly register the bus is moving at a good >>>> pace. >>>> Kind Regards >>> >>> >>> What we need to do is: >>> >>> To become an official chapter of ISOC you need to apply for >>> recognition and provide the following documents: >>> >>> 1. An official Application. >>> >>> This should be fairly trivial, as it is not a difficult form to >>> fill in. >>> >>> 2. A completed set of bylaws. These chapter bylaws should conform >>> to >>> ISOC chapter policies. >>> >>> This is going to be the hard bit. >>> >>> Will we form a Society? an NGO? >>> >>> What kinds of things do we want to do as a Chapter? These >>> questions >>> feed into the by-law discussion. >>> >>> and we need a mailing address as well...do we have one? >>> >>> 3. Your Chapter also needs to have at least 25 Members who are >>> subscribed as ISOC members (all members of a chapter must be >>> members >>> of ISOC). >>> >>> #3 is done of course. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> >>> McTim >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. >>> A >>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) >>>> <nmutungu@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> 2011/9/5 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> Very well, colleagues kindly registered, so far only 14 have >>>>>> registered, >>>>>> we need at least 25 for the Chapter to be registered. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Barrack Otieno >>>>>> <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the Clarification Christine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Christine Saegesser >>>>>>> <saegesser@isoc.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Judy, Barrack, hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The global membership numbers might be useful for you to have >>>>>>>> once >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> will be asked by us to update your new Chapter's record in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> Chapter >>>>>>>> Portal (this will be part of the Chapter formation process), >>>>>>>> as you >>>>>>>> would be >>>>>>>> able to easily see who is already an Internet Society member >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>> is not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, the membership number is not absolutely necessary >>>>>>>> otherwise. >>>>>>>> First name, last name and e-mail address should be sufficient >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> stage >>>>>>>> to find the members again in our database. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I hope this answers your question. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Internet Society (ISOC) >>>>>>>> Christine Saegesser Baethge >>>>>>>> Manager, Chapter Development >>>>>>>> Website: www.InternetSociety.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Barrack Otieno wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> > Many thanks Judy, should we include our global membership >>>>>>>> > numbers?, >>>>>>>> > I >>>>>>>> > hope Christine can comment on this. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On 9/3/11, Judy Okite <judyokite@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> Dear Members, >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Hope that this finds you well. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> as w continue, delving, with the by-laws, in our >>>>>>>> >>> registration >>>>>>>> >>> process we >>>>>>>> >>> need 25 members,who are already subscribed as ISOC >>>>>>>> >>> members. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> if you would like to be a registered >>>>>>>> >> ISOC_Kenya,member,(all >>>>>>>> >> members >>>>>>>> >> of a >>>>>>>> >> chapter must be members of ISOC). >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> please register, kindly use the same name(s)(as the ones >>>>>>>> >>> you >>>>>>>> >>> use >>>>>>>> >>> in >>>>>>>> >>> ISOC,) >>>>>>>> >>> for verification,purposes. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> add your name on the link below. >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MVV...
>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> Kind Regards, >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know >>>>>>>> >>> who >>>>>>>> >>> you >>>>>>>> >>> are and >>>>>>>> >>> what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want >>>>>>>> >>> to >>>>>>>> >>> get >>>>>>>> >>> there.” >>>>>>>> >>> Kofi Annan >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > -- >>>>>>>> > Sent from my mobile device >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Barrack O. Otieno >>>>>>>> > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>>>>>>> > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, >>>>>>>> > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> >>>>>>>> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar >>>>>>>> > +254721325277 >>>>>>>> > +254-20-2498789 >>>>>>>> > Skype: barrack.otieno >>>>>>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> > isoc mailing list >>>>>>>> > isoc@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Barrack O. Otieno >>>>>>> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>>>>>> www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com >>>>>>> ICANN accredited registrar >>>>>>> +254721325277 >>>>>>> +254-20-2498789 >>>>>>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Barrack O. Otieno >>>>>> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>>>>> www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com >>>>>> ICANN accredited registrar >>>>>> +254721325277 >>>>>> +254-20-2498789 >>>>>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> isoc mailing list >>>>>> isoc@lists.my.co.ke >>>>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) >>>>> Kenya >>>>> Skype: gracebomu >>>>> Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu) >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Barrack O. Otieno >>>> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>>> www.afriregister.bi, www.afriregister.com >>>> ICANN accredited registrar >>>> +254721325277 >>>> +254-20-2498789 >>>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> isoc mailing list >>>> isoc@lists.my.co.ke >>>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Barrack O. Otieno >> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >> www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, >> www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> >> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Barrack O. Otieno > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno >
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