Dear all, first of all, it is a good thing that we are having discussions about the Chapter formation. This will go a long way in helping us be clear on our vision,mission and activities and even if it takes a year, we must continue to discuss. Barrack, please keep pushing us to brainstorm:) On the question of the legal implications of the city chapters, that would not really be a problem, as each city chapter would just have to register as a separate society. So this really depends on the consensus reached by members. Personally, I think for starters we should have a national chapter with powers to create branches anywhere in Kenya.If a time comes when people from a certain area or branch feel ready to start a "city" chapter then they can start that process and we shall be ready to help them where we can. Cheers! 2011/10/7 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Noted Davis, listers keep sending in your comments, we are on the right track, Davis what would you want the Kenyan Chapter to focus on? In light of the ICT landscape, Capacity building?, Policy? Or what?
On 10/7/11, Davis Onsakia <mautidavis@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear all,
My honest take on this is that restricting ourselves to city chapters is not the ideal way to go. This is due to the fact that our cities ( Mombasa and Kisumu, other than Nairobi) are not that ICT-developed that we expect them to form chapters anytime soon - even in the next three year! Just look how long the Kenyan chapter (country chapter remember) has taken to be mooted. Chapters like Rwanda chapter kicked off a while back. On this same note, we need to borrow from our African brothers: they have country chapters and not city chapters. I have not heard of a city chapter in Africa vibrant or dormant - I'm ready to be enlightened though.
The ISOC advice should be taken but we should too take local conditions into consideration when forming our own chapter. I would not like a situation where a brother or sister from Kakamega feels like a visitor in a Nairobi chapter - we need to pick up as country chapter and move on. Once we are vibrant enough, may be then we can then form sub-chapters (not chapters at City or town level) - I hope that this allowed by the ISOC constitution.
But honestly, a city chapter cannot take us anywhere now, may be later.
My humble submission.
Regards and many thanks, Davis M Onsakia
'The minute you settle for less than you deserve, you get even less than you settled for.' - Maureen Dowd
________________________________ From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> To: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
McTim, i think that is why we need some legal guidance in so far as the Registrar of Societies is concerned before making a move, i hope Grace can help us crack this or any other legal expert within the ISOC Ke fraternity.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:26 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Ronald Ojino <ronojinx@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all, Sorry for my late entry into the discussion. However as a resident of kisumu, i think we should stick to the kenyan chapter so as not to lock out people like us. Just to echo Walubengo's sentiments,it may take a long while to come up with chapters in other parts of the country. i also think that we can equally contribute to isoc kenya via remote participation. It also makes logic if the city chapters are born from the country chapter.
Yes, but if we declare the entire nation of kenya as our area of influence in our chapter application, we will have to dissolve the KE Chapter if we want to do city chapters. There is no reason that we couldn't have a Kisumu/Mombasa/Wajir resident join our NBO Chapter as well.
Deserves a good deal of thought I think.
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