I think the best way is to explore if the copper lines can be used with new technologies (especially in remote areas) even as we adopt new technologies.

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   1.  Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a rejuvenated
      copper plant (Brian Munyao Longwe)
   2. Re:  Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a rejuvenated
      copper plant (Barrack Otieno)
   3. Re:  Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a  rejuvenated
      copper plant (WANGARI KABIRU)
   4. Re:  Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a rejuvenated
      copper plant (Barrack Otieno)


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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 07:05:27 +0300
From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>,
        "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>
Subject: [ISOC_KE] Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a
        rejuvenated     copper plant
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Ethiopia and Tunisia deliver high speed data over wireline while here in
Kenya we have allowed France Telecom who have management of Telkom Kenya to
basically neglect and "throw away" our copper plant - and yet it could be
the basis for providing affordable high speed access to hundreds of
thousands. The new government *must* review this counterproductive
"strategic investment" from France. Preferably show them the door and let
us rebuild our national carrier. Full story here http://ictafrica.info/
FullNews.php?id=8231
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Best regards,

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From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>
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Hi Brian,

The article doesn't seem to disclose full information, is that the correct
picture. Be that as it may, Telkom Kenya has issues and my take is the only
way to resolve such issues is reviving the letter and spirit of
multistakeholderism that brought the many gains we are enjoying in the
Information and Communication Technology Sector, its unfortunate that
sectarian interests have eroded the unity of the community but i think this
holds the key to resolving the challenges you have pointed out.

Best Regards


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>wrote:

> Ethiopia and Tunisia deliver high speed data over wireline while here in
> Kenya we have allowed France Telecom who have management of Telkom Kenya to
> basically neglect and "throw away" our copper plant - and yet it could be
> the basis for providing affordable high speed access to hundreds of
> thousands. The new government *must* review this counterproductive
> "strategic investment" from France. Preferably show them the door and let
> us rebuild our national carrier. Full story here http://ictafrica.info/
> FullNews.php?id=8231<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fictafrica.info%2FFullNews.php%3Fid%3D8231&h=6AQG9pG3RAQFMErU7Uu3mvEUPpn6e6H9D64HDcC36A89x5Q&s=1>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brian
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:29:46 +0100 (BST)
From: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com>,    Barrack Otieno
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Happy Wednesday!

It is good news to learn that countries have been able to with what they have even as they consider/adopt new technologies.

More often than not, it seems that we must throw away the older and adopt the new (and it is a cycle) which makes it seem to be more commercial-profit driven versus on the outcome e.g increase penetration, reduce cost.

Or like the CDF? projects that are left halfway when a new MP takes over as each regime tries to gain its identity.

It is unfortunate that in Kenya, there is no active and genuine voice of advocacy that may keep the interests of all players.
Years after they dug up our villages with cables with a promise of cheaper accessible internet, this is still not the case.

Institutions such as ISOC have the golden opportunity to be the voice for the people, guiding hand to the private sector and the eyes for the government agencies.

Have a pleasant day.

Regards/Wangari
---
Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on Earth".


--- On Wed, 10/4/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a rejuvenated copper plant
To: "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe@gmail.com>
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Wednesday, 10 April, 2013, 6:31

Hi Brian,

The article doesn't seem to disclose full information, is that the correct picture. Be that as it may, Telkom Kenya has issues and my take is the only way to resolve such issues is reviving the letter and spirit of multistakeholderism that brought the many gains we are enjoying in the Information and Communication Technology Sector, its unfortunate that sectarian interests have eroded the unity of the community but i think this holds the key to resolving the challenges you have pointed out.


Best Regards


On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:

Ethiopia and Tunisia deliver high speed data over wireline while here in Kenya we have allowed France Telecom who have management of Telkom Kenya to basically neglect and "throw away" our copper plant - and yet it could be the basis for providing affordable high speed access to hundreds of thousands. The new government *must* review this counterproductive "strategic investment" from France. Preferably show them the door and let us rebuild our national carrier. Full story here http://ictafrica.info/FullNews.php?id=8231



Best regards,

Brian


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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 01:20:35 -0700
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: WANGARI KABIRU <wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>,        KICTAnet ICT Policy
        Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a
        rejuvenated copper plant
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Wangari,

Good points,

I think we should appreciate the fact that the recent gains in the
Information and Communications technology have been  a result of continuous
engagement between Civil Society Organisation, the Private Sector ,
academia and the government. A good number of erstwhile crusaders were
hired or engaged by the government or government related institutions and
for obvious reasons they cannot raise their voices as it were previously,
that brings in the issue of mentorship, i beleive this should be our new
frontier, its good to note that our new president is on social media so is
his deputy  which might signify new ways of engagement, i think we need to
study issues and raise areas of concerns on the different lists we have and
debate them for clarity before presenting them to the concerned parties be
it the government or state related institutions.

My 2 cents


On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:29 AM, WANGARI KABIRU
<wangarikabiru@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

>
> Happy Wednesday!
>
> It is good news to learn that countries have been able to with what they
> have even as they consider/adopt new technologies.
>
> More often than not, it seems that we must throw away the older and adopt
> the new (and it is a cycle) which makes it seem to be more
> commercial-profit driven versus on the outcome e.g increase penetration,
> reduce cost.
>
> Or like the CDF  projects that are left halfway when a new MP takes over
> as each regime tries to gain its identity.
>
> It is unfortunate that in Kenya, there is no active and genuine voice of
> advocacy that may keep the interests of all players.
> Years after they dug up our villages with cables with a promise of cheaper
> accessible internet, this is still not the case.
>
> Institutions such as ISOC have the golden opportunity to be the voice for
> the people, guiding hand to the private sector and the eyes for the
> government agencies.
>
> Have a pleasant day.
>
> Regards/Wangari
> ---
> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are Restored
> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of God on
> Earth".
>
>
> --- On *Wed, 10/4/13, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Ethiopia and Tunisia reaping the fruit of a
> rejuvenated copper plant
> To: "Brian Munyao Longwe" <blongwe@gmail.com>
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>, "
> isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
> Date: Wednesday, 10 April, 2013, 6:31
>
>
> Hi Brian,
>
> The article doesn't seem to disclose full information, is that the correct
> picture. Be that as it may, Telkom Kenya has issues and my take is the only
> way to resolve such issues is reviving the letter and spirit of
> multistakeholderism that brought the many gains we are enjoying in the
> Information and Communication Technology Sector, its unfortunate that
> sectarian interests have eroded the unity of the community but i think this
> holds the key to resolving the challenges you have pointed out.
>
> Best Regards
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=blongwe@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Ethiopia and Tunisia deliver high speed data over wireline while here in
> Kenya we have allowed France Telecom who have management of Telkom Kenya to
> basically neglect and "throw away" our copper plant - and yet it could be
> the basis for providing affordable high speed access to hundreds of
> thousands. The new government *must* review this counterproductive
> "strategic investment" from France. Preferably show them the door and let
> us rebuild our national carrier. Full story here http://ictafrica.info/
> FullNews.php?id=8231<http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fictafrica.info%2FFullNews.php%3Fid%3D8231&h=6AQG9pG3RAQFMErU7Uu3mvEUPpn6e6H9D64HDcC36A89x5Q&s=1>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brian
>
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