Hello All,

I agree with Walu, lets have a country chapter first, before we begin dispersing....my concern would be, are the activities going to be restricted within the chapter 'borders' ? because in that case the Nairobians have to think real hard.

Kind Regards,
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:23:25 +0300
From: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>
To: DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD <dottocomp@yahoo.com>
Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
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We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we
should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do.

Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your
ideas online first!

Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do??

Maybe we should all list our top 3 items?


We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not
a Country Chapter.  After all, if we are not active in
kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from
making their own chapter!

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Cheers,

McTim
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route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD
<dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> ?Hello folks how far are we now...?
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele@isoc.org>
> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour@isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD'
> <dottocomp@yahoo.com>
> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support@isoc.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM
> Subject: RE:
>
> Dear Daniel,
>
> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm to
> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East Africa
> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like to
> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which is
> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going well.
>
> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in Nairobi
> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you in
> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will come
> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to
> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay.
>
> Best regards,
> Dawit
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>
>> >
>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi
>> > Dotto Computer Agency
>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100
>> > Tel:+254-020-313939
>> > Cell:+254-722-756211
>> > Nairobi,Kenya.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:34:08 +0300
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>,        DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD
       <dottocomp@yahoo.com>,  "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
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Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on
the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city
offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective?

On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
> We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we
> should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do.
>
> Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your
> ideas online first!
>
> Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do??
>
> Maybe we should all list our top 3 items?
>
>
> We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not
> a Country Chapter.  After all, if we are not active in
> kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from
> making their own chapter!
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD
> <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hello folks how far are we now...?
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele@isoc.org>
>> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour@isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD'
>> <dottocomp@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support@isoc.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM
>> Subject: RE:
>>
>> Dear Daniel,
>>
>> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm
>> to
>> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East Africa
>> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like to
>> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which
>> is
>> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going well.
>>
>> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in Nairobi
>> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you
>> in
>> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will come
>> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to
>> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dawit
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> >
>>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi
>>> > Dotto Computer Agency
>>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100
>>> > Tel:+254-020-313939
>>> > Cell:+254-722-756211
>>> > Nairobi,Kenya.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
To: McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com>,        DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD
       <dottocomp@yahoo.com>,  "isoc@orion.my.co.ke" <isoc@orion.my.co.ke>,
       Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
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McTim,

I get ur point about Nairobi Chapter - particularly because most membership is likely to be based around Nairobi. HOWEVER, I would advise we go for the KENYA chapter despite this fact.

Reasons?
1.? A Nairobi Chapter would from the word go be exclusive (denying potential Non-Nairobi members an opportunity to join given that other chapters MSA, KSM etc are less likely to go live any time soon)

2. Usually start with a Country Chapter and after years of growth and demonstrated value, then other chapters can be encouraged to "break-away"...

walu.

--- On Thu, 10/6/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com>, "DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD" <dottocomp@yahoo.com>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:34 PM

Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on
the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city
offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective?

On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
> We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we
> should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do.
>
> Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your
> ideas online first!
>
> Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do??
>
> Maybe we should all list our top 3 items?
>
>
> We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not
> a Country Chapter.? After all, if we are not active in
> kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from
> making their own chapter!
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel
>
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD
> <dottocomp@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?Hello folks how far are we now...?
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele@isoc.org>
>> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour@isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD'
>> <dottocomp@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support@isoc.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM
>> Subject: RE:
>>
>> Dear Daniel,
>>
>> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm
>> to
>> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East Africa
>> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like to
>> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which
>> is
>> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going well.
>>
>> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in Nairobi
>> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you
>> in
>> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will come
>> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to
>> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Dawit
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>> >
>>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi
>>> > Dotto Computer Agency
>>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100
>>> > Tel:+254-020-313939
>>> > Cell:+254-722-756211
>>> > Nairobi,Kenya.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> isoc mailing list
>> isoc@lists.my.co.ke
>> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel
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Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 19:39:36 +0300
From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
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Well Said Walu, listers what are your thoughts?

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:

> McTim,
>
> I get ur point about Nairobi Chapter - particularly because most membership
> is likely to be based around Nairobi. HOWEVER, I would advise we go for the
> KENYA chapter despite this fact.
>
> Reasons?
> 1.  A Nairobi Chapter would from the word go be exclusive (denying
> potential Non-Nairobi members an opportunity to join given that other
> chapters MSA, KSM etc are less likely to go live any time soon)
>
> 2. Usually start with a Country Chapter and after years of growth and
> demonstrated value, then other chapters can be encouraged to "break-away"...
>
> walu.
>
> --- On *Thu, 10/6/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw:
> To: "McTim" <dogwallah@gmail.com>, "DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD" <
> dottocomp@yahoo.com>, "isoc@lists.my.co.ke" <isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
> Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:34 PM
>
>
> Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on
> the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city
> offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective?
>
> On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=dogwallah@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we
> > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do.
> >
> > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your
> > ideas online first!
> >
> > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do??
> >
> > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items?
> >
> >
> > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not
> > a Country Chapter.  After all, if we are not active in
> > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from
> > making their own chapter!
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > McTim
> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD
> > <dottocomp@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=dottocomp@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hello folks how far are we now...?
> >>
> >> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele@isoc.org<http://mc/compose?to=bekele@isoc.org>
> >
> >> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour@isoc.org<http://mc/compose?to=st.amour@isoc.org>>;
> 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD'
> >> <dottocomp@yahoo.com <http://mc/compose?to=dottocomp@yahoo.com>>
> >> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support@isoc.org<http://mc/compose?to=chapter-support@isoc.org>
> >
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM
> >> Subject: RE:
> >>
> >> Dear Daniel,
> >>
> >> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm
> >> to
> >> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East
> Africa
> >> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like
> to
> >> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which
> >> is
> >> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going
> well.
> >>
> >> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in
> Nairobi
> >> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you
> >> in
> >> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will
> come
> >> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to
> >> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Dawit
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >>> >
> >>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi
> >>> > Dotto Computer Agency
> >>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100
> >>> > Tel:+254-020-313939
> >>> > Cell:+254-722-756211
> >>> > Nairobi,Kenya.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge
> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> isoc mailing list
> >> isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
> >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > McTim
> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> > route indicates how we get there."  Jon Postel
> > _______________________________________________
> > isoc mailing list
> > isoc@lists.my.co.ke <http://mc/compose?to=isoc@lists.my.co.ke>
> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc
> >
>
> --
> Sent from my mobile device
>
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