Absolutely Grace, I wonder what's the take of members, should we just
be a society or an NGO, I prefer the former, secondly how will the
society relate with our cctld registry?

On 9/1/11, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, this society also has to be registered in Kenya with the Registrar of
> Societies. Someone should keep that in mind as we apply for the chapter
> registration too.
> Yes, I will be happy to assist once people have given their input.
> Cheers!
>
> 2011/9/1 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
>
>> Thanks McTim and Grace for your insightfull responses, Grace and any
>> other members from the legal fraternity, do you mind volunteering your
>> expertise to help refine the document, as mentioned a member
>> volunteered to put this together and it is great to see the reactions
>> coming forth, what do other members think?, Jolie posted a copy of
>> bylaws for the NY chapter we can also compare the two.
>>
>> On 9/1/11, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Where did these come from? (copy and pasted from somewhere else I
>> imagine,
>> > as it would be a lot of work to write up new by-laws from scratch!)
>> >
>> > here are my nits picked:
>> >
>> > 1.ii
>> > "To represent the Kenyan Internet community in government committees and
>> in
>> > other local and international forums that deal with the various
>> > technical, legal and social aspects of the Internet,"
>> >
>> > Are such bodies as ISOC allowed to sit on government committees? Or are
>> we
>> > talking about things like the ICT Board and IPv6 forum??
>> >
>> >
>> > I would like Section 1. to say more about increasing Interent access in
>> > Kenya I think.
>> >
>> > When did we decide we would have dues paying members? I had thought
>> > that
>> > was an open issue?
>> >
>> > Section 7:
>> >
>> > "7. Any members of the Chapter may file charges against a member by
>> filing a
>> > written complaint with the Secretary of the Chapter."
>> >
>> > WTF is this about? Is this needed? really?
>> >
>> >
>> > Article IV
>> >
>> > 2". Board membership shall be drawn from key sectors of the Kenyan
>> > Internet community, primarily sponsoring organizations:
>> >
>> >
>> > Government (1)
>> >
>> > Private Sector (2)
>> >
>> > Academia (1)
>> >
>> > Civil Society (1)
>> >
>> > Members-at-large (2)"
>> >
>> >
>> > I'm not so keen on divvying up seats like this. What if we can't find a
>> > good person from gov't to sit on the Board? Will we be then forced to
>> have
>> > a clueless person on the Board just to satisfy the By-laws?
>> >
>> > Same with the other stakeholder groups I think.
>> >
>> >
>> > In general I think we will have problems due to the gender parity rules.
>> >
>> >
>> > If there are 7 board Members, and 1/3 must be women, then that means at
>> > least 3 women. If there are 4 officer seats, and a 1/3 must be women,
>> then
>> > that means 2 women at all times must be Officers.
>> >
>> > What if we have problems recruiting that many women willing to serve?
>> >
>> > Article XII 1:
>> >
>> > "All proposed changes to these Chapter Bylaws shall have been approved
>> > by
>> > the Senior Manager, Chapters and individual Memberships"
>> >
>> > Who is the "Senior Manager" ?
>> >
>> > In general I find it to be a very formal document, suggesting physical
>> > offices, Standing committees, etc. Will we be able to sustain such an
>> > operation?
>> >
>> > What will our source(s) of funding come from?
>> >
>> > For a first draft tho, it's not bad!
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > McTim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Barrack Otieno
>> > <otieno.barrack@gmail.com>wrote:
>> >
>> >> Listers,
>> >>
>> >> Kindly go through the attached document prepared by one of us, let us
>> >> comment on the same before the next meeting.
>> >>
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>> >
>> > McTim
>> > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
>> > route
>> > indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
>> >
>>
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