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Fw: The Global Innovation Competition Finals
by Daniel Otieno Omondi 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

On Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:35 AM, Making All Voices Count <info(a)makingallvoicescount.org> wrote: Making all Voices Count - Newsletter April 3, 2014 The Global Innovation Competition Finals /// The winners of the Global Innovation Week - a unique programme of intense networking and mentorship - will be announced tonight. Making All Voices Count's 10 finalists gathered this week from eight countries across the world to compete for a £65,000 grant. Speaking at the opening of the week Patricia Nyaundi, Secretary to the Commission of the Kenya National Commission on Human Rights addressed participants: "you have been selected by your fellow citizens and your peers as the best of the best. I urge you to take on the challenge that Nelson Mandela issued by rising to be the ordinary men and women who became the makers of history.” On Day One and Day Two finalists experienced an intense programme of mentorship in the following areas: data visualisation, government engagement, technology, disability rights, gender & rural outreach, transparency & accountability and entrepreneurship. This was a rich process of learning and knowledge sharing. As contestant Kagiso Motsumi from South Africa explained: "it's a lot to learn in a short space of time, but ...already we have won just be being here and collecting all of this information." Yesterday, finalists put their knowledge to the test with a trip to Baba dogo. Here, local citizens and leaders met to discuss employment, access to education, disability rights and healthcare. The debate was intense and after observing this interaction, finalists returned to the iHub to discuss themes relating to the programme. As Innovation Director Daudi Were explained: "Making – what innovation tools could make this process more efficient? All – who was in this room and who needs to be there? Is it inclusive? Are all parts of society represented? Voices – even if they are here, are they given the chance to talk and participate? Count – How are government engaging? Are they taking on this feedback?" Today, the Global Innovation Competition Jury will have their final chance to meet with our innovators and discuss their solutions. Tonight at the Global Innovation Gala, winners will make one final pitch of their idea before the winners are announced. This event will be live-streamed from 19.00 (EAT) on youtube. ________________________________ WWW.MAKINGALLVOICESCOUNT.ORG email us: info(a)makingallvoicescount.org This email was sent to dottocomp(a)yahoo.com why did I get this? unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences Hivos · Raamweg 16 · Den Haag, Zuid-Holland 2596 HL · Netherlands

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35 U.S. Senators led by John Thune and Marco Rubio demand answers on ICANN transition
by Michael Bullut 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Greetings Listers, An interesting read *here. <http://domainingafrica.com/35-u-s-senators-led-by-john-thune-and-marco-rubi…>* *Apologies for cross-posting!* Warm regards, Michael Bullut. --- *Cell:* *+254 723 393 114.**Skype Name:* *Michael Bullut.* *Twitter:* * @Kipsang <http://twitter.com/Kipsang/> * *Blog: http://www.kipsang.com/ <http://www.kipsang.com/>* *E-mail:* *main(a)kipsang.com <main(a)kipsang.com>* *---*

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Re: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports
by Ali Hussein 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Ndugu Kiarie Kwa hakika una haki ya kuuliza maswali na kuendeleza mjadala kwa nia ya kuistawisha ISOC-ke. Ningeomba wenzangu wawe watuliza na kushiriki kwenye mjadala huu bila ya kumtia kamba Ndugu yetu Kiarie. Uongozi unatulazimu sisi tusikilize kila mmoja. Kwa hakika maneno anayosema Kiarie kuhusu utendaji wa tasfiri kuwa una mushkil ni kweli. Lakini hapaja haribika jambo. Kukosolewa ni kujuwa. Sisi Kama viongozi lazima tufanye hima turekebishe lugha kwani itakuwa aibu kwetu ikiwa tasfiri hiyo kwenye wiki haitarekebishwa. Mimi wenu Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @ Kelvin, usinidismiss. I would not want to get into an argument about Swahili,but "Jukwaa hili i wazi " could never be correct be it in Kenya, TZ, Congo or Kibera. Ask even Google translate. I know translation is difficult but I still, maswali tutauliza. I pointed out inconsistencies "Mashine mashini" and some glaring mistakes where a paragraph was quoted. From my last email I said > The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. > > > "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti > kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, > kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji > kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi > ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " > > ISOC got the money but some individuals were paid to do the translation. Who are these? > > From the minutes, and the Chairmans report, it seems that the project was not handled by ISOC but by Charles. So questions go to Charles. > @ Grace : And by the way, where are ISOC financial statements. I know ISOC did IGF and some meetings, I am looking forward to see how much was spent. Did you send us the ISOC financials? I don't think so, why? > > K > > >> On 31 March 2014 13:58, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >> @ kiarie, >> >> I was involved in wiki 1 and one of the issues that came up while translating is unesco wanted isoc to involve countries like tanzania. >> Thus the swahili you think is grammatically incorrect un tanzania it is swahili sanifu. >> >> Like most have asked what are your ideas of improving this project. You fail to address this. >> >> This money to my knowledge was deposited to isoc bank account who was the beneficiary ? Isoc ke was. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> First of all thank you for also joining in the discussion and saving me from the fuming chair. >>> I respect your views Daniel but do not think that being politically correct will take ISOC to the next level. >>> >>> >>> Questions must be answered, ili tuwe na real transparency. >>> @ Jane, I honestly think that a kawa Swahili speaker would not be helped so much by the website. >>> The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti >>> kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, >>> kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji >>> kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi >>> ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " >>> >>> Why did I not comment before? Because this project report has never been posted . >>> I have looked through the archives. There was only a call for people to join but never an update. >>> >>> >>> I know you will say that people don't respond to ISOC mails. Me I say that even reading them is a kind of response. >>> I never attend ISOC meetings but the minutes are still posted and I read them. >>> Bottom line, I want to know who "benefited". Kwani whats so hard in giving names? >>> >>> I thought this is a new ISOC that wants to do things differently. I will smell a rat until you show me there is no rat. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kiarie >>> ----------- >>> Jane, >>> That is a great contribution as one family let us all bring forth ideas which needs funding and bank on such donors like UNESCO and more. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel Omondi >>> +254722756211+254722756211+254722756211+254722756211 >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:05 AM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear All >>> What we all need is to contribute towards improving the report.Members could send the comments they have.The executive can have a small group to put together the very final document that can be acceptable to all members. However UNESCO may have a format as to how there reports could be done. >>> >>> I recall a post inviting people to join a working group to work on UNESCO Program. In the new year let us all be active and participate in activities in good time to ensure success of programs that would be implemented. >>> >>> >>> UNESCO Programs have timelines and the sooner we finish on this the better for the chapter. This being a major partner we should keep them and come up with more programs that JACO can fund >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:49 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> +1 @ Ali Hussein >>> >>> @ Kiarie "But the wiki is not professional," >>> Thanks for the analysis of the wiki. www.dcom.co.ke Can you suggest improvements as to how best way you would have liked it to be, appearance, usability etc. If you have the technical skills (english/swahili translation or programming-coding), please step in and lend a hand. Are you an ISOC member. If not please join, volunteer and get involved and maybe your expertise may become useful to the Chapter and the WG. >>> >>> >>> On the issue of "benefited", Look at the workplan and the deliverables. There was no item as BENEFITS. The activities were implemented strictly as stipulated in the Terms of Reference (ToR) and in the wokplan. >>> >>> We encourage positive contribution that will lead to its further continued development and evolution because language varies from region to region. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Charles >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> >>> >>>> On 31 March 2014 10:20, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Ali, >>>> That is a very good reminder and hopefully we should engage in making the chapter vibrant in projects not only focus on one project or so. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel Omondi >>>> +254722756211 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the AGM as I already had another engagement scheduled out of town. >>>> >>>> I think I speak for the rest of the elected officials when I say that there shall be transparency and accountability on usage of funds and that we shall ensure we get the best value for money for any activities we engage in. >>>> >>>> Ali Hussein >>>> >>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Kelvin Kamau <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @rapundo, >>>>> >>>>> I dnt think i asked any questions i gave a proposition.(read email thread) >>>>> >>>>> the reason i assumed that Mr Ali is best to answer at the right time is >>>>> >>>>> 1. he is mandated by virtual of an election >>>>> 2. this will be an independent audit by his office noting that he has not participated in any financials before his election. >>>>> >>>>> all in all It is an AGM agenda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Rapudo Hawi <rapudohawi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Kelvin, >>>>> >>>>> I have read through the report. it is substantial but needs review any other report done. >>>>> >>>>> As a member, I ask what is the issue you are putting out? i feel this is not the right forum for such engagement regarding accountability. The issue of the report will be part of the AGM? Why not ask the questions at the forum? >>>>> >>>>> I feel that ISOC kenya is entering into next phase that would transform our actions. I salute the team for guiding us into this juncture >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> Why dont we give time to the budgets and finace controller to receive all documentations and financial records from the previous interim members ? Am sure once this is done Mr Ali will be able to explain what he inherited, current financial situation as well as address any questions. That would be my proposition unless Mr Ali would like to take any other measures then its welcome that we hear whats in his plate. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles, >>>>>> You are right, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. But the wiki is not professional, far from it. >>>>>> I am sorry you sacrificed time for that, but at least you were well rewarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You see, this is the first time a report (read financial report) is being published about an ISOC project. >>>>>> Had this been published before elections..... >>>>>> And now that you have invited me to look more closely at the report, expect even more questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But please answer my question, who benefited financially from this "project". names names names! >>>>>> ----------- >>>>>> @ Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Question, but it only shows that you either did not read or understand >>>>>> the full report and only went for the figures. to say the least, by >>>>>> professional standards, those figures are even low. At the onset, we also >>>>>> thought it was alot of money, but when it came to the real work, looking >>>>>> for professional translators to deliver quality output in concise >>>>>> translation, editing etc, as required by the UNESCO, we had to sacrifice >>>>>> most of time in order to deliver. This aspect is well captured in the wiki >>>>>> report. >>>>>> >>>>>> In this regard we encourage members to get involved and participate in such >>>>>> activities in future order to understand what goes on. >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki is and related iformation available @ >>>>>> http://dcom.co.ke/index.php?title=Main_Page >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Charles >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bad bad translation by all means. You are right, these were not professionals. >>>>>> And yes, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. >>>>>> From: Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo at gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: 2014-03-28 9:04 GMT+03:00 >>>>>> Subject: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports >>>>>> To: "isoc at lists.my.co.ke" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, >>>>>> All that money just to translate? Where is the wiki? Who was the >>>>>> beneficiary? No wonder the elections were hotly contested! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Charles Oluoch Oloo >>>>>> Innovative Web Applications Developer >>>>>> Tel: +254-721-909757+254-721-909757, 738-275001 >>>>>> Alt. E-mail: coloo at kefri.org >>>>>>

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How Quickly Did Your Country Adopt the Internet?
by Mwendwa Kivuva 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

The World Wide Web is 25 years old<http://mashable.com/2014/03/12/tim-berners-lee-reddit-ama/>. Looking back, it's tough to imagine a world without phrases<http://mashable.com/2014/03/11/tech-terms-history/> like "vlog," "GIF" or "Klout score." I mean, how did people even meet rural singles <http://mashable.com/2013/06/13/bizarre-social-networks/> from across the country before the web? Did they, like, talk -- face to face? With their *mouths*? To celebrate the big 2-5, Esri <http://esri.com/> created an interactive map that highlights how the web spread across the world over the past quarter-century. Click through the years to advance from 1993 up to 2012. The blue dots are based on number of users per 100 people -- click on them for more information. All data is taken from the World Bank<http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/IT.NET.USER.P2?page=4> . http://mashable.com/2014/03/19/internet-access-world/#:eyJzIjoidCIsImkiOiJf… ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva, Nairobi, Kenya twitter.com/lordmwesh

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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1
by Charles Oloo 02 Apr '14

02 Apr '14

@ Paul and Kivuva Kudos for having been selected to participate in ICANN's Fellowship program at the 50th Public Meeting in London, 22-26 June 2014. As a Chapter, we are proud to be represented by the two of you in the global fora. It is not by chance that you have won the awards, but merit based on you active voluntary participation, and we hope that your achievements will arouse more interest from other members to become active volunteers in the Internet arena. Kind Regards Charles On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 9:35 AM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 meeting > - 42 boursiers pour la 50?me r?union de l'ICANN (Barrack Otieno) > 2. Re: Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 > meeting - 42 boursiers pour la 50?me r?union de l'ICANN > (Davis Onsakia) > 3. Re: IP address (Gregory Okoth) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 21:15:18 +0300 > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > To: "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: [ISOC_KE] Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 > meeting - 42 boursiers pour la 50?me r?union de l'ICANN > Message-ID: > < > CAKX6dsGzh9NEms4+i-ePM4nYpYE+jaWc_tAfvHb9SAENXmiUUA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Yaovi Atohoun" <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> > Date: Mar 31, 2014 9:03 PM > Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 meeting - 42 > boursiers pour la 50?me r?union de l'ICANN > To: "AfrICANN list" <africann(a)afrinic.net> > > Dear all > (Fran?ais plus bas) > > 42 fellows from 34 countries have been selected to participate in ICANN's > Fellowship program at the 50th Public Meeting in London, 22-26 June 2014. > More informagtion at > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-31mar14-en.htm > > The 51st ICANN meeting in Los Angeles to be held 12-16 October 2014 > > - Application Round opens: 18 April 2014 at 23:59 UTC > - Application Round closes: 2 June 2014 at 23:59 UTC > - Selected Fellows announced: 14 July 2014 > > Thanks > ----------- > Bonjour ? tous, > > 42 boursiers provenant de 34 pays ont ?t? s?lectionn?s pour participer ? > la 50?me r?union de L'ICANN qui aura lieu ? Londres du 22 au 26 Juin 2014. > Plus d'information sur l'annonce ? l'adresse > http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-31mar14-en.htm > > La 51?me r?union de l'ICANN aura lieu ? Los Angeles du 12 au 16 Octobre > 2014 > La r?ception des demandes de bourses commence le 18 Avril 2014 ? 23:59 UTC > Date limite de r?ception des demandes le 2 juin 2014 ? 23:59 UTC > Laliste des candidats retenus sera publi?e le 14 Juillet 2014 > > Merci > - > Yaovi Atohoun > Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager - Africa > ICANN - www.icann.org > Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 > Skype : yaovi.atohoun.icann > > > _______________________________________________ > AfrICANN mailing list > AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann >

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INTERNET GOVERNANCE
by Daniel Otieno Omondi 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

FYI http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140328_internet_governance_what_does_it_mea…

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Fw: [Chapter-delegates] NEWS: Internet Society Calls for Restoration of Full Internet Access in Turkey
by Daniel Otieno Omondi 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

FYI... On Monday, March 31, 2014 11:59 PM, Wende Cover <cover(a)isoc.org> wrote: Internet Society Calls for Restoration of Full Internet Access in Turkey Internet Society President and CEO Kathy Brown issued the following statement today: We are deeply concerned with recent reports that the Turkish government is mandating curtailed access to key social media sites for millions of users across Turkey. Recent actions to implement the Turkish government's requirement include the redirection of network routes so that Turkish citizens are not getting the correct information from the Domain Name System (DNS). They are instead being redirected to other web sites controlled by Turkish service providers. In addition to undermining core technical functions of the Internet’s architecture, such actions also threaten users’ fundamental human right to seek, receive, and impart information and ideas across frontiers. Interfering with a country’s routing of Internet traffic not only harms citizens’ ability to communicate and innovate as part of the global Internet platform; it can also lead to a fragmentation of the network at the regional and global levels. Ultimately, the Turkish people and nation are the ones that will suffer, as their voices will be lost across the net. The Internet Society believes that the Internet is a global medium that fuels economic and social development, empowers users with limitless access to knowledge, and supports aspirations for freedom. Bob Hinden, Chair of the Internet Society Board of Trustees, added, “We strongly urge the Turkish Government to stop requiring the blocking of access to social media sites and to allow full Internet access to all Turkish citizens immediately. We believe that the opportunity to participate in the global information society should never be taken away from individuals.” The Internet Society hopes that nations around the world will come to understand that blocking citizens’ access to the tools of online communication only serves to fuel discord and is not the way to address the underlying concerns of their citizens. Such measures can only undermine citizens’ trust in their government’s ability to provide an enabling Internet environment for economic and social progress. http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-calls-restoration-full… _______________________________________________ As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society Chapter Portal (AMS): https://portal.isoc.org

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IP address
by Kelvin Kamau 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Not sure if this is the correct platform however am looking at a technical practicality. In Nairobi some ISP will migrate one from canopy broadband to fiber and clients will retain there public Ip addresses In some regions migration from coaxial cable to fiber you have zero chance of retaining the public ip addresses or rather this cannot be migrated over. why is this ? is it because the backbone in Nairobi is one and other regions have several backbones hence cannot move over the different backbones ? greg , joly and all any ideas ? regards, kelvin

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Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 meeting - 42 boursiers pour la 50ème réunion de l'ICANN
by Barrack Otieno 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Yaovi Atohoun" <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> Date: Mar 31, 2014 9:03 PM Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 meeting - 42 boursiers pour la 50ème réunion de l'ICANN To: "AfrICANN list" <africann(a)afrinic.net> Dear all (Français plus bas) 42 fellows from 34 countries have been selected to participate in ICANN's Fellowship program at the 50th Public Meeting in London, 22-26 June 2014. More informagtion at http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-31mar14-en.htm The 51st ICANN meeting in Los Angeles to be held 12-16 October 2014 - Application Round opens: 18 April 2014 at 23:59 UTC - Application Round closes: 2 June 2014 at 23:59 UTC - Selected Fellows announced: 14 July 2014 Thanks ----------- Bonjour à tous, 42 boursiers provenant de 34 pays ont été sélectionnés pour participer à la 50ème réunion de L'ICANN qui aura lieu à Londres du 22 au 26 Juin 2014. Plus d'information sur l'annonce à l'adresse http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-31mar14-en.htm La 51ème réunion de l'ICANN aura lieu à Los Angeles du 12 au 16 Octobre 2014 La réception des demandes de bourses commence le 18 Avril 2014 à 23:59 UTC Date limite de réception des demandes le 2 juin 2014 à 23:59 UTC Laliste des candidats retenus sera publiée le 14 Juillet 2014 Merci - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager - Africa ICANN - www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 Skype : yaovi.atohoun.icann _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

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Re: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports
by Kelvin Githira 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

The AGM offered a platform to ask and get responces to your queries especialy the financials, did you get answeres at the AGM ? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @ Kelvin, usinidismiss. I would not want to get into an argument about Swahili,but "Jukwaa hili i wazi " could never be correct be it in Kenya, TZ, Congo or Kibera. Ask even Google translate. I know translation is difficult but I still, maswali tutauliza. I pointed out inconsistencies "Mashine mashini" and some glaring mistakes where a paragraph was quoted. From my last email I said > The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. > > > "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti > kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, > kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji > kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi > ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " > > ISOC got the money but some individuals were paid to do the translation. Who are these? > > From the minutes, and the Chairmans report, it seems that the project was not handled by ISOC but by Charles. So questions go to Charles. > @ Grace : And by the way, where are ISOC financial statements. I know ISOC did IGF and some meetings, I am looking forward to see how much was spent. Did you send us the ISOC financials? I don't think so, why? > > K > > >> On 31 March 2014 13:58, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >> @ kiarie, >> >> I was involved in wiki 1 and one of the issues that came up while translating is unesco wanted isoc to involve countries like tanzania. >> Thus the swahili you think is grammatically incorrect un tanzania it is swahili sanifu. >> >> Like most have asked what are your ideas of improving this project. You fail to address this. >> >> This money to my knowledge was deposited to isoc bank account who was the beneficiary ? Isoc ke was. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> First of all thank you for also joining in the discussion and saving me from the fuming chair. >>> I respect your views Daniel but do not think that being politically correct will take ISOC to the next level. >>> >>> >>> Questions must be answered, ili tuwe na real transparency. >>> @ Jane, I honestly think that a kawa Swahili speaker would not be helped so much by the website. >>> The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti >>> kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, >>> kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji >>> kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi >>> ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " >>> >>> Why did I not comment before? Because this project report has never been posted . >>> I have looked through the archives. There was only a call for people to join but never an update. >>> >>> >>> I know you will say that people don't respond to ISOC mails. Me I say that even reading them is a kind of response. >>> I never attend ISOC meetings but the minutes are still posted and I read them. >>> Bottom line, I want to know who "benefited". Kwani whats so hard in giving names? >>> >>> I thought this is a new ISOC that wants to do things differently. I will smell a rat until you show me there is no rat. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kiarie >>> ----------- >>> Jane, >>> That is a great contribution as one family let us all bring forth ideas which needs funding and bank on such donors like UNESCO and more. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel Omondi >>> +254722756211+254722756211+254722756211+254722756211 >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:05 AM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear All >>> What we all need is to contribute towards improving the report.Members could send the comments they have.The executive can have a small group to put together the very final document that can be acceptable to all members. However UNESCO may have a format as to how there reports could be done. >>> >>> I recall a post inviting people to join a working group to work on UNESCO Program. In the new year let us all be active and participate in activities in good time to ensure success of programs that would be implemented. >>> >>> >>> UNESCO Programs have timelines and the sooner we finish on this the better for the chapter. This being a major partner we should keep them and come up with more programs that JACO can fund >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:49 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> +1 @ Ali Hussein >>> >>> @ Kiarie "But the wiki is not professional," >>> Thanks for the analysis of the wiki. www.dcom.co.ke Can you suggest improvements as to how best way you would have liked it to be, appearance, usability etc. If you have the technical skills (english/swahili translation or programming-coding), please step in and lend a hand. Are you an ISOC member. If not please join, volunteer and get involved and maybe your expertise may become useful to the Chapter and the WG. >>> >>> >>> On the issue of "benefited", Look at the workplan and the deliverables. There was no item as BENEFITS. The activities were implemented strictly as stipulated in the Terms of Reference (ToR) and in the wokplan. >>> >>> We encourage positive contribution that will lead to its further continued development and evolution because language varies from region to region. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Charles >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> >>> >>>> On 31 March 2014 10:20, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Ali, >>>> That is a very good reminder and hopefully we should engage in making the chapter vibrant in projects not only focus on one project or so. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel Omondi >>>> +254722756211 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the AGM as I already had another engagement scheduled out of town. >>>> >>>> I think I speak for the rest of the elected officials when I say that there shall be transparency and accountability on usage of funds and that we shall ensure we get the best value for money for any activities we engage in. >>>> >>>> Ali Hussein >>>> >>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Kelvin Kamau <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @rapundo, >>>>> >>>>> I dnt think i asked any questions i gave a proposition.(read email thread) >>>>> >>>>> the reason i assumed that Mr Ali is best to answer at the right time is >>>>> >>>>> 1. he is mandated by virtual of an election >>>>> 2. this will be an independent audit by his office noting that he has not participated in any financials before his election. >>>>> >>>>> all in all It is an AGM agenda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Rapudo Hawi <rapudohawi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Kelvin, >>>>> >>>>> I have read through the report. it is substantial but needs review any other report done. >>>>> >>>>> As a member, I ask what is the issue you are putting out? i feel this is not the right forum for such engagement regarding accountability. The issue of the report will be part of the AGM? Why not ask the questions at the forum? >>>>> >>>>> I feel that ISOC kenya is entering into next phase that would transform our actions. I salute the team for guiding us into this juncture >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> Why dont we give time to the budgets and finace controller to receive all documentations and financial records from the previous interim members ? Am sure once this is done Mr Ali will be able to explain what he inherited, current financial situation as well as address any questions. That would be my proposition unless Mr Ali would like to take any other measures then its welcome that we hear whats in his plate. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles, >>>>>> You are right, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. But the wiki is not professional, far from it. >>>>>> I am sorry you sacrificed time for that, but at least you were well rewarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You see, this is the first time a report (read financial report) is being published about an ISOC project. >>>>>> Had this been published before elections..... >>>>>> And now that you have invited me to look more closely at the report, expect even more questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But please answer my question, who benefited financially from this "project". names names names! >>>>>> ----------- >>>>>> @ Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Question, but it only shows that you either did not read or understand >>>>>> the full report and only went for the figures. to say the least, by >>>>>> professional standards, those figures are even low. At the onset, we also >>>>>> thought it was alot of money, but when it came to the real work, looking >>>>>> for professional translators to deliver quality output in concise >>>>>> translation, editing etc, as required by the UNESCO, we had to sacrifice >>>>>> most of time in order to deliver. This aspect is well captured in the wiki >>>>>> report. >>>>>> >>>>>> In this regard we encourage members to get involved and participate in such >>>>>> activities in future order to understand what goes on. >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki is and related iformation available @ >>>>>> http://dcom.co.ke/index.php?title=Main_Page >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Charles >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bad bad translation by all means. You are right, these were not professionals. >>>>>> And yes, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. >>>>>> From: Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo at gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: 2014-03-28 9:04 GMT+03:00 >>>>>> Subject: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports >>>>>> To: "isoc at lists.my.co.ke" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, >>>>>> All that money just to translate? Where is the wiki? Who was the >>>>>> beneficiary? No wonder the elections were hotly contested! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Charles Oluoch Oloo >>>>>> Innovative Web Applications Developer >>>>>> Tel: +254-721-909757+254-721-909757, 738-275001 >>>>>> Alt. E-mail: coloo at kefri.org >>>>>>

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