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Re: [ISOC_KE] Attendance of meetings
by Barrack Otieno 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

Dear Members, This is to request that we be proactive and make efforts to attend our monthly face to face meetings. Many thanks to all those who have been consistent. The meetings are held every third saturday of the month. Thank you -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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IGF BAKU FYI
by Barrack Otieno 02 Apr '12

02 Apr '12

From: *Robert Guerra* <rguerra(a)privaterra.org> Date: Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 12:59 AM Subject: [governance] IGF12-Baku / Call for Workshop Proposals / April 12 Deadline (11 days and counting) To: governance(a)lists.igcaucus.org A 3rd reminder that stakeholders wishing to hold workshops at the 2012 IGF Annual meeting in Baku are encouraged to submit proposals using the online workshop submission form. The deadline for submission is 12 April 2012 - some 11 days from now. http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/w2012 Workshops 2012 We are now accepting workshop proposals for the 2012 IGF Annual Meeting in Baku. The workshops will be held generally in parallel to the Main Sessions. Organizers of workshops are asked to present their proposals making use of the template posted below. Proposals should respect the organizational principles and criteria for the selection of workshops. The Multistakeholder Advisory Group (MAG) will assess the proposals. The final schedule will be determined in light of the number of proposals submitted. Organizational Principles • The guiding organizational principle for holding workshops is the multi-stakeholder approach. Geographical diversity is an equally relevant factor. • All proposals fulfilling the selection criteria and using the template will be posted on the IGF Web site. • Proposals should preferably be submitted in English. 12 April 2012 is set as the deadline for submitting proposals. • The rooms reserved for workshops and all equipment, including a screen and a PC or laptop for projections and a projector (XGA/SVGA Data), will be available free of charge. Details related to the logistics will be made available in due course. • There will be no interpretation provided for workshops. If interpretation is desired the workshop organizers are free to make their own arrangements in coordination with the IGF Secretariat. The organizers will be responsible for all associated costs. Content and format • They are two general workshop types: o Feeder workshops: will focus on the specific issues relevant to the Baku meeting themes and will act as leaders to the relevant main sessions. As was done in previous years in the relevant main sessions, the moderators of these sessions will call on the feeder workshop rapporteurs to relate the viewpoints expressed in the workshops. Each feeder workshop will be asked to assign a rapporteur whose role will include attending the relevant main session, giving a brief overview of the session's discussions and take part in a one hour round table session that will immediately proceed the main session on that topic. They should also be available to act as a resource to the moderators of the relevant main session. To the extent possible participants from the feeder workshops are also encouraged to attend the main sessions related to the feeder workshops in order to broaden the discussions on the sub-themes of the sessions. o Other workshops: Workshops on other topics of relevance to Internet Governance. (More details will be available in the draft programme paper.) • Workshops dealing with topics that are addressed in the main meeting will not be scheduled at the same time as the main meeting. • Workshops should explore a theme from different angles and different stakeholders' perspectives. Pure advocacy workshops will not be considered. • All workshops will be Webcast and have realtime transcription. • Workshops should respect the general format of meetings and should be structured to be interactive, allowing a large portion of their time for open discussion and interaction with meeting attendees, such as a Q&A session. They could include keynote presentations, moderated panels and discussions both from the floor and from remote participants. Workshops should be designed with the format that is most appropriate to the particular topic under discussion. Selection criteria • Relevance to the main themes and sub-themes. Priority will be given to proposals related to the main themes. • Demonstratively proposed or organized following the multi-stakeholder principle (e.g. at least three relevant stakeholder groups being represented in the organization of the workshop). • Capacity to improve understanding of the IGF themes and topics. • Proven experience, expertise and capacity to manage the staging of the workshop, including the raising of funds necessary to do so. • Timeliness, completeness and adherence to deadlines. • The provision of background papers. • Developing country support. • Gender balance. • Balance of speakers to participant discussion in the design of the workshop; that is, the degree of interaction planned. • Youth participation. • Suitability for remote participation, for example linkages to a hub event. • A name of a remote moderator is also required for each workshop. Template for submitting proposals An online form will be made available shortly for the submission of workshop proposals containing the following questions: Question 1: Title of proposed workshop. Question 2: Please provide a concise description of the proposed workshop. Question 3: Which of the six broad IGF Themes does your workshop fall under? Question 3a: Which main session question(s) does it address (if any)? Question 4: Have you, or any of your co-organizers, organized an IGF workshop before? Question 4a: If so, please provide the link(s) to the report(s): Question 5: Provide the names and affiliations of the panellists you are planning to invite. (Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Question 5a: Name of Remote Moderator. Question 6: Provide the name of the organizer(s) of the workshop and their affiliation to various stakeholder groups.(Please note that workshops are expected to adhere to the multi-stakeholder principle, including geographical and gender diversity and to provide different perspectives on the issues under discussion.) Proposals should be between 200 - 1000 words. Reporting The organizers will be asked to prepare a short summary report of their workshop after the IGF annual meeting. A template for the report will be made available. 2012 Main sub theme questions http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/component/content/article/114-preparatory-pr… The following are the main session questions proposed by the MAG: Emerging Issues Questions Question 1: What are the implications of the use of new technical and political instruments on the free flow of information, access to information, and with respect for human rights? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of:Access to content, new models, common challenges for old and new media Low cost mobile access to the Internet Technical measures and use of intermediaries as instruments of law enforcement and intermediary safe harbors Question 2: What are acceptable and proportionate measures that offer Intellectual Property protection, yet allow for and respect individual users’ freedom to express themselves, to access and share content/culture, and to innovate and create? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Measures to protect intellectual property in balance with incentives for creativity and innovation Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television Legislative issues Creativity and human rights Innovation on the Internet The networked individual and expanded power of freedom Question 3: In what ways are new opportunities and challenges being created as the new Internet services and traditional media (such a broadcast TV and radio) are accessed through the ‘same screen’? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of: Access to content, new models, common challenges and hybrid television User generated content: reliability and responsibility Low cost mobile access to the internet Question 4: To what extent do Internet based services offer new and radically different opportunities to help families, social groups, communities and broader structures in society organize and re-organize themselves when challenged by natural disaster or strife? Dialogue around this question is expected to embrace a wide range of issues including, inter alia, discussion of; Internet and traditional media for disaster recovery and management Internet Governance for Disaster Reduction and Response – Best practice and possible collaboration framework Managing Critical Internet Resources Questions Question 1: What is the role and importance of IXPs in localizing content, including to ensure easier connectivity in cases of disasters? Question 2: How can IG policy choices ensure sustainability during natural disasters and recovery/relief efforts? Question 3: What IG choices, best practices and technical and policy challenges impact the migration of resources starting to run over IP, migration of resources? Question 4: What policy dialogues in international forums could impact these migrations? For example, what, if any, implications are there from the ITU World Conference on International Telecommunications (WCIT) and its review of the International Telecommunications Regulations? What changes in this binding set of Treaty-level regulations could impact the future development of the Internet? Question 5: What new developments pose specific new policy and technical challenges? Introduction of new gTLDs, IPv4 and IPv6: Emerging IPv4 markets, and related governance issues relevant to market ideas/realties, Emergence of smart grids – what are best practices to enable an interconnected world? Question 6: With respect to multistakeholder accountability mechanisms, such as the AOC at ICANN, what are the results of such efforts, and what are the consequences for other CIR organizations? Questions for Feeder Workshops: What are the effects of jurisdiction and territoriality on the ongoing discussions about critical internet resource coordination? What is the relationship of the multi-stakeholder accountability mechanisms and the overall goal of enhanced cooperation? Security, Openness and Privacy Questions Question 1: What impact can security and governance issues have on the Internet and human rights? Question 2: Freedom of expression and free flow of information: how do legal framework, regulations, and principles impact this? What risks can Internet fragmentation pose to security, privacy and openness? What impact does cloud computing have on concerns over cybersecurity and cybercrime? Question 3: What risks do law enforcement, information suppression and surveillance have on security, privacy and openness and how can public and private sector cooperate to conform and observe human rights? Question 4: What measures can be taken to ensure freedom of expression, access to knowledge and privacy, including for children? What are challenges to protect freedom of expression online and what measures can be taken to better empower citizen’s access to information and participation in digital age? “Net Etiquette” and the roles and responsibilities of users as they relate to openness, privacy security? Question 5: What policies and practices that can assist in making the Internet an effective multistakeholder model to discuss national & regional issues and what best practices developing countries can benefit from. Access and Diversity Questions Question 1: What are the policy challenges around free flow of information, freedom of expression and human rights and the Internet as they relate to access? Question 2: What are the legal policy and regulatory choices including enabling environments that foster infrastructure investment, particularly for developing countries? Question 3: How is the increased demand for more bandwidth, lower costs of Internet access and revenue shifts affecting investment in broadband infrastructure and access networks? Question 4: What challenges do filtering, blocking and the diversity of national legal frameworks more generally pose to ensuring access and diversity? Question 5: Innovation and opportunities in spectrum technology and allocation---implications for access including mobile? Question 6: How can women be empowered in all dimensions of their life through access to the Internet and information? Question 7: How do language barriers impact access to the Internet? Question 8: What opportunities and challenges are presented by multilingualism? Question 9: Mobile access: what it takes to create opportunities for entrepreneurs, youth and developing country stakeholders? Internet Governance for Development Questions IG4D Thematic Cluster 1 "Pending Expansion of the Top Level Domain Space" Question 1:How do various actors in the developing world--governments, industry groupings, the technical community, civil society-perceive the relative costs and benefits of expanding the domain name space; Are there any issues on which greater clarification and mutual understanding would be helpful? Question 2: What kinds of support may be required to help communities, NGOs and businesses from the developing world to participate in the gTLD process? How do we we see the structure of the global market for registry and registrar services evolving in the years ahead?" IG4D Thematic Cluster 2 "Enabling Environment" Question 1: What does it take to attract investment in infrastructure and encourage innovation and growth of ICT services, including mobile technology and how can these technologies best be employed to address development challenges? Question 2: What does it take in terms of IG policy, legal and regulatory approaches? What are the challenges to and opportunities for participation of stakeholders from developing countries with a special focus on increasing participation by youth and women participation in IG from Least Developed Countries? IG4D Thematic Cluster 3 - "Infrastructure" Question 1: What are the key concerns regarding Internet infrastructure from developing countries' experiences and how can new technologies and the Global Internet Governance mechanisms address limitations, offer opportunities and enable development? Taking Stock and the Way Forward In the past year there has been a spate of declarations by various governments and intergovernmental groups that proposed guiding governance principles for various aspects of the Internet's development and use. Examples include, inter alia, the revised ITRs (ITU); the United Nations Committee for Internet-Related Policies (India); the International Code of Conduct for Information Security (China, Russia, Tajikistan Uzbekistan); 15 principles on policy making to be transferred into "guidelines" (OECD); the Internet Governance Declaration's 10 principles (CoE); the Deauville Declaration's 6 principles(Group of 8); the Tbilisi Declaration (OSCE), the Cybersecurity Principles (NATO); the Brazilian Internet Steering Committee 10 Principles, and the Draft Code of Ethics for the Information Society (UNESCO). Main Question: To what extent these various initiatives, which collectively involve most of the world's governments, display increasing convergence on guiding principles? Question 1: How are the rules for the Internet set? Question 2: How would be possible to coordinate and to harmonize the current plurality of developing principles for Internet Regulation? Question 3: What is the progression of the perspective raised through discussions successive IGFs. Question 4: To what extent do these principles raise distinctive implications and relevance to the world's population? Question 5: What are the prospects for the various countries embracing and implementing such principles or such harmonization of principles?

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Re: [ISOC_KE] Submission of Chapter Application
by Barrack Otieno 01 Apr '12

01 Apr '12

Dear Members, I have submitted the chapter application as promised in our last meeting at view park towers. Charles Oloo has also been busy following up registration at the registrar of societies and we do hope the process will progress without any hitch. Special thanks to Grace Bomu for working on the bylaws until late this afternoon, Judy Okite for preparing the membership register. McTim for providing guidance on the registration process, Charles for keeping us on our toes and pursuing registration at the registrars office, Phares for hosting our mailing list and providing this platform for communication, Q-Net for providing a meeting venue and all the members who have played numerous roles to get us to this point. We do hope that the registration process will be successfull and will allow our members to make meaningfull contribution to the developement of the Internet at a local regional and global level. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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Call for Speakers
by Barrack Otieno 01 Apr '12

01 Apr '12

Dear Members, We have been having meetings every third Saturday of the month and we are looking for innovative ways of attracting new members whilst fullfing ISOC's mandate, in our last meeting we discussed possibilities of having talks from industry leaders and visiting institutions that play a key role in shaping how the Internet is used locally. I would therefore like to invite volunteers to speak on the following areas which will then be used to form a calendar: Internet Exchange Points:, peering and related issues IP v 6 Internet Rights and Principles RIR's Local content Cyber Security The Domain Name Industry Internet Standards You may suggest more areas , the aim is to create awareness on ongoing initiatives, if you know someone from government, Civil Society, academia who can speak please invite them. Bon Weekend -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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ISOC Kenya Website
by Barrack Otieno 01 Apr '12

01 Apr '12

Hi guys, We need volunteers to team up with Charles and revamp our website. Thanks Charles for the effort any takers?, Paul you promised us a CMS ;-). The current site is here http://isoc.or.ke/keisoc.php -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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Fwd: [ISOC] BREAKING NEWS: Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales and Mozilla’s Mitchell Baker to Keynote at Internet Society’s Global INET Conference
by Barrack Otieno 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <cover(a)isoc.org> Date: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 8:10 PM Subject: [ISOC] BREAKING NEWS: Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales and Mozilla’s Mitchell Baker to Keynote at Internet Society’s Global INET Conference To: isoc-members-announce(a)elists.isoc.org Just Added: Wikipedia’s Jimmy Wales and Mozilla’s Mitchell Baker to Keynote at Internet Society’s Global INET Conference Two of the world’s leading Internet influencers join high-powered speaker roster [Washington, D.C., USA and Geneva, Switzerland] – The Internet Society is excited to announce that Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, and Mitchell Baker, Chair of the Mozilla Foundation, will be keynote speakers at Global INET 2012. The event, which celebrates the 20th anniversary of the Internet Society and offers an inspired look at the future of the Internet, will be held 22-24 April at the Centre International de Conférences Genève in Geneva, Switzerland. Jimmy Wales is an Internet entrepreneur, wiki pioneer, and technology visionary, who is well known as the founder of Wikipedia. Jimmy will provide his insights into the future direction of the Internet with an inspiring opening keynote at the Global INET on Monday, 23 April. His visionary perspectives will complement the other opening keynote speakers that include Leonard Kleinrock, who will reflect on the early days of the Internet, and Lynn St. Amour, Internet Society President and CEO, who will address today's most pressing issues and concerns for the advancement of the Internet. As co-founder and Chair of Mozilla, Mitchell Baker is deeply committed to an open, innovative Web and the infinite possibilities it presents. Mitchell has received numerous prestigious awards for her innovation, creativity, and leadership. Her keynote address, which will reflect her unique style and vision for the future of the Internet, is scheduled for Tuesday afternoon, 24 April 2012, during the closing session of the Global INET. The Global INET will facilitate the convergence of global Internet leaders in technology, business, and policy, addressing issues that will shape the Internet’s future, including how to preserve an Internet responsive to all stakeholders while extending access to the Internet’s power as an engine for education and economic growth. Together, attendees will also celebrate the Internet Society’s 20 years of global efforts to help advance the Internet. The Global INET has confirmed an impressive array of speakers, in addition to Jimmy Wales and Mitchell Baker, for the three-day conference, including: *Vint Cerf, Vice President & Chief Internet Evangelist, Google *Lesley Cowley, Chief Executive, Nominet *Steve Crocker, Chair, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) Board of Trustees *Raúl Echeberría, Executive Director, Latin American and Caribbean Internet Addresses Registry (LACNIC) and Chairman of the Internet Society’s Board of Trustees *Francis Gurry, Director General, World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) *Rolf-Dieter Heuer, Director General, European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN) *Russ Housley, Chairman, Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) *Tarek Kamel, former Egyptian Minister of Communication and Information Technology *Janis Karklins, Assistant Director General, United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) *Leonard Kleinrock, Distinguished Professor at UCLA and pioneer of the mathematical theory of packet networks *Nii Quaynor, Chairman, National Information Technology Agency (Ghana) *Lynn St. Amour, President and CEO, Internet Society *Hamadoun Touré, Secretary-General, International Telecommunication Union (ITU) “We are delighted to have such an exceptional assembly of pioneers, thought leaders, visionaries, and Internet game changers to share their insights at this important event,” said Walda Roseman, Chief Operating Officer at the Internet Society. “The Global INET will feature powerful keynotes, engaging roundtable discussions, and cross-generational opportunities to network with pioneers, entrepreneurs, civil society, UN agency officials, and technical and policy experts from across the global Internet community.” The Internet Society is pleased to announce Verisign as a Platinum Sponsor of Global INET. Verisign manages and protects the domain name system (DNS) infrastructure for several of the world’s leading top level domains, such as .com and .net, and is working with the Internet community to deploy new technologies including IPv6 and DNSSEC (DNS Security Extensions). “Verisign is proud to join leading Internet visionaries and stakeholders at Global INET to discuss policies to ensure the future Internet is open, easily and fully accessible, and designed to meet the needs of the next billion users in the developing world,” said Dr. Burt Kaliski, Jr., senior vice president and chief technology officer of Verisign. “As a trusted steward of critical Internet infrastructure, Verisign supports the Internet Society’s multi-stakeholder vision of Internet development and is dedicated to protecting the security and stability of the DNS, while providing new opportunities for organizations and users across the globe.” For more details on the Global INET 2012 and to register for the event, visit: www.internetsociety.org/globalinet _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 9, Issue 18
by Charles Oloo 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

*RE: ISOC Kenya Website * Am glad the issue of the Website is coming up. I apologize for the delay on configuring the CMS. This was due to the many activities that I have been involved in, and currently working on the registration process. But since Ive offloaded some off, the CMS should be completed very soon and should be operation at least by 10th April for comments and fully online by 15 April. This is important because by the time we shall be celebrating 20th Anniversary, everything should be in place. It can even launch officially on that day. So all who can contribute to the technicalities are welcome aboard. Although past request bore no fruit, lets pull up our socks things time. We need two categories of contributors/volunteers; 1. Technical -coding / configuration and 2. ISOC-Ke Content development. Any comments/suggestions? Regards Charles On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. ISOC Kenya Website (Barrack Otieno) > 2. Re: Fwd: [ICANN-discuss] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] (165) Internet > Society Bahrain Chapter (McTim) > 3. Re: Fwd: [ICANN-discuss] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] (165) Internet > Society Bahrain Chapter (McTim) > 4. Re: ISOC Kenya Website (Joly MacFie) > 5. Re: Fwd: [ICANN-discuss] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] (165) Internet > Society Bahrain Chapter (Kivuva) > 6. Re: ISOC Kenya Website (Davis Onsakia) > 7. Re: ISOC Kenya Website (Barrack Otieno) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 12:51:10 +0300 > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > To: isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > Subject: [ISOC_KE] ISOC Kenya Website > Message-ID: > <CAKX6dsETFFiHu9UKfKTMF53i6uNnJ-66DcX0qqMqg5Zq_tTLSg(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi guys, > > We need volunteers to team up with Charles and revamp our website. Thanks > Charles for the effort any takers?, Paul you promised us a CMS ;-). The > current site is here http://isoc.or.ke/keisoc.php > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/ >

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Fwd: [ICANN-discuss] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] (165) Internet Society Bahrain Chapter
by Barrack Otieno 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Internet Society - NY Chapter <admin(a)isoc-ny.org> Date: Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 4:34 AM Subject: [ICANN-discuss] Fwd: [ALAC-Announce] (165) Internet Society Bahrain Chapter To: ISOC icann-discuss <icann-discuss(a)elists.isoc.org> Congrats ISOC Bahrain!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- ******** Question: Should the regional advice from APRALO for applicant (165) Internet Society Bahrain Chapter be accepted? The regional advice was to accept the application. ALS Applications: (165) Internet Society Bahrain Chapter As at Poll close: Tuesday 06 March 2012 16:00 UTC Number of voters: 12 · Group size: 15 · Percentage voted: 80.00 Ranked by votes Rank Candidate Votes % 1 Yes 11 91.67 2 Abstain 1 8.33 3 No 0 0.00 ******** You may verify the results independently under: https://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=2292UktX8EmZghVsmkzXWBTS -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - http://isoc-ny.org --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ To manage your ISOC subscriptions or unsubscribe, please log into the ISOC Member Portal: https://portal.isoc.org/ Then choose Interests & Subscriptions from the My Account menu. -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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http://www.internetsociety.org/events/inet-conferences/global-inet-2012
by Barrack Otieno 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

Our Colleague Charles will be representing us. Best Regards Charles and thanks Marsema for facilitating. Cheers! -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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Global Member ID's
by Barrack Otieno 28 Mar '12

28 Mar '12

Dear Members, Kindly append your global member ID if you havent so that we present our Chapter application. Below please find the membership list at its current state, for those who have not added their names please do so. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MV… Thank you Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno http://www.otienobarrack.me.ke/

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