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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 4, Issue 2
by Judy Okite 06 Oct '11

06 Oct '11

Hello All, I agree with Walu, lets have a country chapter first, before we begin dispersing....my concern would be, are the activities going to be restricted within the chapter 'borders' ? because in that case the Nairobians have to think real hard. Kind Regards, “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:39 PM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: (McTim) > 2. Re: Fw: (Barrack Otieno) > 3. Re: Fw: (Walubengo J) > 4. Re: Fw: (Barrack Otieno) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:23:25 +0300 > From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > To: DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > Message-ID: > <CACAaNxh185GBNRQDXSA-rfmutjYoYpzeG9JexR-paZ=Wf+yvjg(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do. > > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your > ideas online first! > > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do?? > > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items? > > > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not > a Country Chapter. After all, if we are not active in > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from > making their own chapter! > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > ?Hello folks how far are we now...? > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: Dawit Bekele <bekele(a)isoc.org> > > To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour(a)isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD' > > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > > Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support(a)isoc.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM > > Subject: RE: > > > > Dear Daniel, > > > > Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm > to > > promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East > Africa > > is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like to > > continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which > is > > why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going > well. > > > > As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in Nairobi > > last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you > in > > the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will > come > > soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to > > follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay. > > > > Best regards, > > Dawit > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > >> > Daniel Otieno Omondi > >> > Dotto Computer Agency > >> > P.o.Box 16753-00100 > >> > Tel:+254-020-313939 > >> > Cell:+254-722-756211 > >> > Nairobi,Kenya. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Imagination is more important than knowledge > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > isoc mailing list > > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:34:08 +0300 > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > To: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com>, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > Message-ID: > <CAKX6dsGuoK9NdpM2xKejrZV+q4XNOcmc9gfL04g=yTsVHNmuhA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on > the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city > offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective? > > On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we > > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do. > > > > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your > > ideas online first! > > > > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do?? > > > > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items? > > > > > > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not > > a Country Chapter. After all, if we are not active in > > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from > > making their own chapter! > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> ?Hello folks how far are we now...? > >> > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele(a)isoc.org> > >> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour(a)isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD' > >> <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > >> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support(a)isoc.org> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM > >> Subject: RE: > >> > >> Dear Daniel, > >> > >> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm > >> to > >> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East > Africa > >> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like > to > >> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which > >> is > >> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going > well. > >> > >> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in > Nairobi > >> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you > >> in > >> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will > come > >> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to > >> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Dawit > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>> > > >>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi > >>> > Dotto Computer Agency > >>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100 > >>> > Tel:+254-020-313939 > >>> > Cell:+254-722-756211 > >>> > Nairobi,Kenya. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> isoc mailing list > >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > _______________________________________________ > > isoc mailing list > > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Barrack O. Otieno > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > To: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com>, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >, > Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > Message-ID: > <1317919085.22096.YahooMailClassic(a)web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > McTim, > > I get ur point about Nairobi Chapter - particularly because most membership > is likely to be based around Nairobi. HOWEVER, I would advise we go for the > KENYA chapter despite this fact. > > Reasons? > 1.? A Nairobi Chapter would from the word go be exclusive (denying > potential Non-Nairobi members an opportunity to join given that other > chapters MSA, KSM etc are less likely to go live any time soon) > > 2. Usually start with a Country Chapter and after years of growth and > demonstrated value, then other chapters can be encouraged to "break-away"... > > walu. > > --- On Thu, 10/6/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > To: "McTim" <dogwallah(a)gmail.com>, "DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD" < > dottocomp(a)yahoo.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:34 PM > > Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on > the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city > offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective? > > On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we > > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do. > > > > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your > > ideas online first! > > > > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do?? > > > > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items? > > > > > > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not > > a Country Chapter.? After all, if we are not active in > > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from > > making their own chapter! > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> ?Hello folks how far are we now...? > >> > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele(a)isoc.org> > >> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour(a)isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD' > >> <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > >> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support(a)isoc.org> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM > >> Subject: RE: > >> > >> Dear Daniel, > >> > >> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm > >> to > >> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East > Africa > >> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like > to > >> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which > >> is > >> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going > well. > >> > >> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in > Nairobi > >> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you > >> in > >> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will > come > >> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to > >> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Dawit > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>> > > >>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi > >>> > Dotto Computer Agency > >>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100 > >>> > Tel:+254-020-313939 > >>> > Cell:+254-722-756211 > >>> > Nairobi,Kenya. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> isoc mailing list > >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > _______________________________________________ > > isoc mailing list > > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Barrack O. Otieno > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >

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Re: [ISOC_KE] KENYA CHAPTER FORMATION
by KASWESHA HOUSING COOPERAITVE SOCIETY 06 Oct '11

06 Oct '11

Dear all As I suggested earlier I think it good idea to involve Kentel (also copied herewith) which is a focal point for many Tele-centers around the country including Kisumu and Mombasa. Regards; James Njoroge gitau On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 7:39 PM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Fw: (McTim) > 2. Re: Fw: (Barrack Otieno) > 3. Re: Fw: (Walubengo J) > 4. Re: Fw: (Barrack Otieno) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:23:25 +0300 > From: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > To: DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > Cc: "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > Message-ID: > <CACAaNxh185GBNRQDXSA-rfmutjYoYpzeG9JexR-paZ=Wf+yvjg(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do. > > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your > ideas online first! > > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do?? > > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items? > > > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not > a Country Chapter. After all, if we are not active in > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from > making their own chapter! > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > ?Hello folks how far are we now...? > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > > From: Dawit Bekele <bekele(a)isoc.org> > > To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour(a)isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD' > > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > > Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support(a)isoc.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM > > Subject: RE: > > > > Dear Daniel, > > > > Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm > to > > promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East > Africa > > is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like to > > continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which > is > > why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going > well. > > > > As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in Nairobi > > last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you > in > > the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will > come > > soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to > > follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay. > > > > Best regards, > > Dawit > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> > > >> > Daniel Otieno Omondi > >> > Dotto Computer Agency > >> > P.o.Box 16753-00100 > >> > Tel:+254-020-313939 > >> > Cell:+254-722-756211 > >> > Nairobi,Kenya. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > Imagination is more important than knowledge > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > isoc mailing list > > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > > > > > -- > Cheers, > > McTim > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 12:34:08 +0300 > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > To: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com>, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > Message-ID: > <CAKX6dsGuoK9NdpM2xKejrZV+q4XNOcmc9gfL04g=yTsVHNmuhA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on > the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city > offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective? > > On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we > > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do. > > > > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your > > ideas online first! > > > > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do?? > > > > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items? > > > > > > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not > > a Country Chapter. After all, if we are not active in > > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from > > making their own chapter! > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> ?Hello folks how far are we now...? > >> > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele(a)isoc.org> > >> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour(a)isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD' > >> <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > >> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support(a)isoc.org> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM > >> Subject: RE: > >> > >> Dear Daniel, > >> > >> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm > >> to > >> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East > Africa > >> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like > to > >> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which > >> is > >> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going > well. > >> > >> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in > Nairobi > >> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you > >> in > >> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will > come > >> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to > >> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Dawit > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>> > > >>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi > >>> > Dotto Computer Agency > >>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100 > >>> > Tel:+254-020-313939 > >>> > Cell:+254-722-756211 > >>> > Nairobi,Kenya. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> isoc mailing list > >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > _______________________________________________ > > isoc mailing list > > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Barrack O. Otieno > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:38:05 -0700 (PDT) > From: Walubengo J <jwalu(a)yahoo.com> > To: McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com>, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >, > Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > Message-ID: > <1317919085.22096.YahooMailClassic(a)web161701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > McTim, > > I get ur point about Nairobi Chapter - particularly because most membership > is likely to be based around Nairobi. HOWEVER, I would advise we go for the > KENYA chapter despite this fact. > > Reasons? > 1.? A Nairobi Chapter would from the word go be exclusive (denying > potential Non-Nairobi members an opportunity to join given that other > chapters MSA, KSM etc are less likely to go live any time soon) > > 2. Usually start with a Country Chapter and after years of growth and > demonstrated value, then other chapters can be encouraged to "break-away"... > > walu. > > --- On Thu, 10/6/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Fw: > To: "McTim" <dogwallah(a)gmail.com>, "DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD" < > dottocomp(a)yahoo.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Date: Thursday, October 6, 2011, 12:34 PM > > Good point McTim, we need consensus on what we should as a chapter, on > the model what if we have a country chapter and then various city > offshoots, Grace can you advice from a legal perspective? > > On 10/6/11, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > We were informed that Chapter formation might take up to a year, so we > > should take our time figuring out what we want a Chapter to do. > > > > Obviously we need to meet again to discuss this, but let's have your > > ideas online first! > > > > Daniel, what is it that you think an ISOC Chpater should do?? > > > > Maybe we should all list our top 3 items? > > > > > > We also need to consider seriously the idea of a City Chapter and not > > a Country Chapter.? After all, if we are not active in > > kisumu/mombasa/.elsewhere, then we shouldn't deny folks there from > > making their own chapter! > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > > > On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:47 AM, DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD > > <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >> > >> ?Hello folks how far are we now...? > >> > >> ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >> From: Dawit Bekele <bekele(a)isoc.org> > >> To: 'Lynn St.Amour' <st.amour(a)isoc.org>; 'DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD' > >> <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> > >> Cc: 'ISOC Chapter Support' <chapter-support(a)isoc.org> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 5, 2011 11:27 AM > >> Subject: RE: > >> > >> Dear Daniel, > >> > >> Thank you for your interest for the Internet Society and your enthusiasm > >> to > >> promote the Internet Society's mission in your region. Indeed, East > Africa > >> is going through major ICT changes and the Internet Society would like > to > >> continue to contribute the development of Internet in East Africa, which > >> is > >> why we are very happy that the Kenyan chapter establishment is going > well. > >> > >> As I said to the members of the establishment team that we met in > Nairobi > >> last week, the African regional bureau is available to assist/advise you > >> in > >> the process. We are expecting the formal application that I hope will > come > >> soon. After that, we will advise you about every step that you need to > >> follow to have the chapter chartered the briefest delay. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> Dawit > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >> > >>> > > >>> > Daniel Otieno Omondi > >>> > Dotto Computer Agency > >>> > P.o.Box 16753-00100 > >>> > Tel:+254-020-313939 > >>> > Cell:+254-722-756211 > >>> > Nairobi,Kenya. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > Imagination is more important than knowledge > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> isoc mailing list > >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Cheers, > > > > McTim > > "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > > route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > > _______________________________________________ > > isoc mailing list > > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > -- > Sent from my mobile device > > Barrack O. Otieno > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >

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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 3, Issue 28
by Charles Oloo 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Hi All. I've just gone thro the digest and found it having very healthy divergent views all for the good of ISOC Kenya chapter. Brainstomming is good for colecting the diferent views and opinions so that we can reach for the best workable choices. Writing a document such as bylaws, constitutions or even a project proposal that can satisfy the basic set criterion is is not an easy task. Those who have experiences in that field like me can attest. I gather two proposals form the discussion: 1. To compile a draft quickly for the sake of registration and amend it later, or 2. To come up with a comprehensive document that can stand the test of time. I think we can focus and decide on either of the two. On the first option we just need to have meeting for a day or two, get the prerequisites minuted and rush to the registrar's office, whereas the second option needs time, or a few days retreat somewhere for the purpose of compiling the document. Of course this will require some costs for the venue. In my case, in case of emergencies, this is what we normally opt for because the selected guys will have enough time to discuss, research and at the end of it all, provide a ready document. There are many suggestions and opions that need to be collated analyzed and discussed. The constitution will form the basis of operations of the chapter, and this will determine & guide how it is run and managed. So it up to you guys to decide on which way to go. I know opportunities are plenty out there, but getting them will depend on the approach that we adopt. Any comments? Charles Oloo On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:31 AM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Where are we @? (Judy Okite) > 2. Re: Where are we @? (McTim) > 3. Re: Where are we @? (DOTTO COMPUTER AGENCY LTD) > 4. Re: Where are we @? (Barrack Otieno) > 5. Re: Where are we @? (Judy Okite) > 6. Re: Where are we @? (Christine Saegesser) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:54:21 +0300 > From: Judy Okite <judyokite(a)gmail.com> > To: isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > Subject: [ISOC_KE] Where are we @? > Message-ID: > <CAOD4riv-tkT0Hb5ZcV9SAyQLHDXzfy9z4K-rUMvtqk5dK+UAXA(a)mail.gmail.com > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > Hello Everyone, > > Hope that this finds you well. > > thank you, all for taking your time to register,so fa,r we are currently @ > 36 members ...CONGRATULATIONS!! to all :-) > > 2. So where are we @, with the registration,process? > > Kind Regards, > ?To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and > what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.? > Kofi Annan >

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Where are we @?
by Judy Okite 16 Sep '11

16 Sep '11

Hello Everyone, Hope that this finds you well. thank you, all for taking your time to register,so fa,r we are currently @ 36 members ...CONGRATULATIONS!! to all :-) 2. So where are we @, with the registration,process? Kind Regards, “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan

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IGF Registration- Extended 15th September
by Judy Okite 13 Sep '11

13 Sep '11

Greetings Colleagues, if the registration for the IGF ,missed you....you still have a chance until the 15th of September.... please register, here; http://intgovforum.org/register/index.php Kind Regards, “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan

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The Sixth Internet Governance Forum 27 -30 September 2011
by Barrack Otieno 09 Sep '11

09 Sep '11

Listers, As you are aware Kenya will be hosting the sixth United Nations Internet Governance forum from 27 - 30 September 2011. The last forum was held in Vilnius Lithuania in September 2010 and it marked the end of the initial five year period. There was overwhelming consensus on the need to continue with the forum which brings together stakeholders involved in managing the Internet from governments, civil Society, academia and the technical community on equal footing. Kenya has been an active participant, our very own East African Internet Governance Forum and Kenya Internet Governance forum has provided a model that has been studied and replicated across the world. This is the first time the meeting is being held in Sub-Saharan Africa and we urge all listers to register, the meeting will provide a great opportunity to network with peers from all continents involved in managing the Internet. Registration closes today the 9th of September 2011. To register please visit www.igf.or.ke (Host Country Website) or ( www.intgovforum.org) Thank you Kind Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 3, Issue 24
by Charles Oloo 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

I agree with Vincent. Infact the whole corporate world out there can extend support and even accept to be on the board of Trustees and even offer office space and maybe to an extent offer annual support which can be used to manage the office initially. All these will depends on how we package ourselves, our approach and the constitution. The options are only unlimited and depends on our thinking and focus. We need to come up with a good laws, mission statement, goal objective, invite probable sponsors and promise display their brands on our website, offices and during functions and meetings. Since some of these such as office space and some finances to start off the Secretariat mandatory, we have no option. These are achievable targets and are relative. Any comments Charles Oloo On 9/8/11, isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: answering one of the ISOC application queries - Next > Meeting (Paul M) > 2. Re: Registration for the application process- ISOC_KENYA25 > Members registered (Grace Mutung'u (Bomu)) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:36:22 +0300 > From: Paul M <paulitrix(a)gmail.com> > To: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > Cc: isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] answering one of the ISOC application queries - > Next Meeting > Message-ID: > <CADc19+6Z8pu9ZbLoEEUZaeaaJK7kZMETOfPj9ps7Tm_3+tFQyA(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Barrack, > > I propose Friday 16th of September. The time can be agreed upon by members. > I personally would prefer an afternoon meeting. >

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Re: [ISOC_KE] Registration for the application process- ISOC_KENYA 25 Members registered
by Barrack Otieno 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

McTim, we got 25 registered members on https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MV…, thanks to Judy, what is the next step, Grace, have you looked at the bylaws?, listers kindly register the bus is moving at a good pace. Kind Regards On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu(a)gmail.com>wrote: > +1 > Cheers! > > > 2011/9/5 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > >> Very well, colleagues kindly registered, so far only 14 have registered, >> we need at least 25 for the Chapter to be registered. >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Thanks for the Clarification Christine. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Christine Saegesser <saegesser(a)isoc.org >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Judy, Barrack, hi all, >>>> >>>> The global membership numbers might be useful for you to have once you >>>> will be asked by us to update your new Chapter's record in the Chapter >>>> Portal (this will be part of the Chapter formation process), as you would be >>>> able to easily see who is already an Internet Society member and who is not. >>>> >>>> However, the membership number is not absolutely necessary otherwise. >>>> First name, last name and e-mail address should be sufficient at this stage >>>> to find the members again in our database. >>>> >>>> I hope this answers your question. >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Christine >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Internet Society (ISOC) >>>> Christine Saegesser Baethge >>>> Manager, Chapter Development >>>> Website: www.InternetSociety.org >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 3, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Barrack Otieno wrote: >>>> >>>> > Many thanks Judy, should we include our global membership numbers?, I >>>> > hope Christine can comment on this. >>>> > >>>> > On 9/3/11, Judy Okite <judyokite(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> Dear Members, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Hope that this finds you well. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> as w continue, delving, with the by-laws, in our registration >>>> process we >>>> >>> need 25 members,who are already subscribed as ISOC members. >>>> >>> >>>> >> if you would like to be a registered ISOC_Kenya,member,(all members >>>> of a >>>> >> chapter must be members of ISOC). >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >>> please register, kindly use the same name(s)(as the ones you use in >>>> ISOC,) >>>> >>> for verification,purposes. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> add your name on the link below. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MV… >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are >>>> and >>>> >>> what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get >>>> there.” >>>> >>> Kofi Annan >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Sent from my mobile device >>>> > >>>> > Barrack O. Otieno >>>> > Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>>> > www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, >>>> > www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> >>>> > <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar >>>> > +254721325277 >>>> > +254-20-2498789 >>>> > Skype: barrack.otieno >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > isoc mailing list >>>> > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke >>>> > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Barrack O. Otieno >>> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >>> www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> >>> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar >>> +254721325277 >>> +254-20-2498789 >>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) >> www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> >> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> isoc mailing list >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >> >> > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) > Kenya > Skype: gracebomu > Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu) > > -- Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [ISOC_KE] answering one of the ISOC application queries - Next Meeting
by Barrack Otieno 08 Sep '11

08 Sep '11

Good progress Grace, one you are ready we can have a members meeting next week whose objective would be to ratify the bylaws and finalise on the Chapter application process, can members propose an ideal date and time? On 9/7/11, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > An association of people operating in Kenya must be registered. For a > society, which we have chosen, the relevant law is The Societies Act, Cap > 108 , which can be found online at www.Kenyalaw.org. > For the registration, apart from the Society's Constitution and the > Society's registered office, we need interim officials and registration > fees (Kshs 2,000 I think). > I will confirm if we need anything else. > Cheers! > > 2011/9/7 McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> > >> This is one of the questions in the application. >> >> Should I write kenyalaw.org as a source? and cite Grace as our Legal >> expert? other sources? What do we need to form a society in KE? fees? >> documents? >> >> Some countries, governments, or regulatory bodies have rules or >> regulations that must be followed by Chapters of organization's like >> the Internet Society. Examples include documentation or fees. It is >> important for you to check and to indicate here any requirements you >> find. If there are none please indicate with whom you checked. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> > > > > -- > Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) > Kenya > Skype: gracebomu > Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu) > -- Sent from my mobile device Barrack O. Otieno Afriregister Ltd (Kenya) www.afrire <http://www.afriregister.com>gister.bi, www.afriregister.com<http://www.afriergister.com> <http://www.afriregister.com>ICANN accredited registrar +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [ISOC_KE] Your message to isoc awaits moderator approval
by McTim 07 Sep '11

07 Sep '11

Can we remove the 40KB limit?? -- Cheers, McTim "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 7:45 AM, <isoc-bounces(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Your mail to 'isoc' with the subject > > Re: [ISOC_KE] Registration for the application process- ISOC_KENYA > 25 Members registered > > Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. > > The reason it is being held: > > Message body is too big: 43047 bytes with a limit of 40 KB > > Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive > notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel > this posting, please visit the following URL: > > > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/confirm/isoc/02b0cdc2a0ae45b03ac4f35d… > >

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