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Fwd: [discuss] Hubs to Net Mundial - call for registration still open
by Ali Hussein 07 Apr '14

07 Apr '14

Team ke Did we do this? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: > From: Marilia Maciel <mariliamaciel(a)gmail.com> > Date: March 29, 2014 at 2:02:14 PM GMT+3 > To: discuss <discuss(a)1net.org> > Subject: [discuss] Hubs to Net Mundial - call for registration still open > > Dear all, > > This is a reminder of the opportunity to register a remote participation Hub to Net Mundial, given that the deadline has been extended. Remote hubs will have the opportunity to follow the webcast of the meeting and send comments, questions an suggestions to Net Mundial. All registered hubs will receive support from the organization of the event. > > The call containing further information can be found here: > http://netmundial.br/blog/2014/03/18/netmundial-opens-opportunity-for-inter… > > Best, > Marília > What are the hubs? > The hubs are local meetings that take place simultaneously with NETmundial meeting. People can watch the webcast together and send questions and comments, via text or audio, that will be included in the Sao Paulo discussions. NETmundial remote hubs can be organized among participants and any group of interested people who share a more immediate community or geographical proximity. It should be open and inclusive to interest actors among the local community, as well as the local press. An minimal infrastructure should be provided, such as: - Accessible location, open to the general public (hotel meeting room, auditorium, theater etc); > - Accommodate around 50 participants; > - Computer and Internet broadband connection availability; > - Computer screen projection and audio system (microphone and speakers);About NETmundialThe Global Multistakeholder Meeting on the Future of Internet Governance will focus on crafting Internet governance principles and proposing a roadmap for the further evolution of the Internet governance ecosystem. The meeting is scheduled for April 23rd and 24th 2014, in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and will be live webcast enabling remote participation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Marília Maciel > Pesquisadora Gestora > Centro de Tecnologia e Sociedade - FGV Direito Rio > > Researcher and Coordinator > Center for Technology & Society - FGV Law School > http://direitorio.fgv.br/cts > > DiploFoundation associate > www.diplomacy.edu > > > > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list > discuss(a)1net.org > http://1net-mail.1net.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

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Re: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports
by Ali Hussein 03 Apr '14

03 Apr '14

Ndugu Kiarie Kwa hakika una haki ya kuuliza maswali na kuendeleza mjadala kwa nia ya kuistawisha ISOC-ke. Ningeomba wenzangu wawe watuliza na kushiriki kwenye mjadala huu bila ya kumtia kamba Ndugu yetu Kiarie. Uongozi unatulazimu sisi tusikilize kila mmoja. Kwa hakika maneno anayosema Kiarie kuhusu utendaji wa tasfiri kuwa una mushkil ni kweli. Lakini hapaja haribika jambo. Kukosolewa ni kujuwa. Sisi Kama viongozi lazima tufanye hima turekebishe lugha kwani itakuwa aibu kwetu ikiwa tasfiri hiyo kwenye wiki haitarekebishwa. Mimi wenu Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad > On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @ Kelvin, usinidismiss. I would not want to get into an argument about Swahili,but "Jukwaa hili i wazi " could never be correct be it in Kenya, TZ, Congo or Kibera. Ask even Google translate. I know translation is difficult but I still, maswali tutauliza. I pointed out inconsistencies "Mashine mashini" and some glaring mistakes where a paragraph was quoted. From my last email I said > The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. > > > "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti > kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, > kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji > kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi > ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " > > ISOC got the money but some individuals were paid to do the translation. Who are these? > > From the minutes, and the Chairmans report, it seems that the project was not handled by ISOC but by Charles. So questions go to Charles. > @ Grace : And by the way, where are ISOC financial statements. I know ISOC did IGF and some meetings, I am looking forward to see how much was spent. Did you send us the ISOC financials? I don't think so, why? > > K > > >> On 31 March 2014 13:58, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >> @ kiarie, >> >> I was involved in wiki 1 and one of the issues that came up while translating is unesco wanted isoc to involve countries like tanzania. >> Thus the swahili you think is grammatically incorrect un tanzania it is swahili sanifu. >> >> Like most have asked what are your ideas of improving this project. You fail to address this. >> >> This money to my knowledge was deposited to isoc bank account who was the beneficiary ? Isoc ke was. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> First of all thank you for also joining in the discussion and saving me from the fuming chair. >>> I respect your views Daniel but do not think that being politically correct will take ISOC to the next level. >>> >>> >>> Questions must be answered, ili tuwe na real transparency. >>> @ Jane, I honestly think that a kawa Swahili speaker would not be helped so much by the website. >>> The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti >>> kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, >>> kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji >>> kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi >>> ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " >>> >>> Why did I not comment before? Because this project report has never been posted . >>> I have looked through the archives. There was only a call for people to join but never an update. >>> >>> >>> I know you will say that people don't respond to ISOC mails. Me I say that even reading them is a kind of response. >>> I never attend ISOC meetings but the minutes are still posted and I read them. >>> Bottom line, I want to know who "benefited". Kwani whats so hard in giving names? >>> >>> I thought this is a new ISOC that wants to do things differently. I will smell a rat until you show me there is no rat. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kiarie >>> ----------- >>> Jane, >>> That is a great contribution as one family let us all bring forth ideas which needs funding and bank on such donors like UNESCO and more. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel Omondi >>> +254722756211+254722756211+254722756211+254722756211 >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:05 AM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear All >>> What we all need is to contribute towards improving the report.Members could send the comments they have.The executive can have a small group to put together the very final document that can be acceptable to all members. However UNESCO may have a format as to how there reports could be done. >>> >>> I recall a post inviting people to join a working group to work on UNESCO Program. In the new year let us all be active and participate in activities in good time to ensure success of programs that would be implemented. >>> >>> >>> UNESCO Programs have timelines and the sooner we finish on this the better for the chapter. This being a major partner we should keep them and come up with more programs that JACO can fund >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:49 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> +1 @ Ali Hussein >>> >>> @ Kiarie "But the wiki is not professional," >>> Thanks for the analysis of the wiki. www.dcom.co.ke Can you suggest improvements as to how best way you would have liked it to be, appearance, usability etc. If you have the technical skills (english/swahili translation or programming-coding), please step in and lend a hand. Are you an ISOC member. If not please join, volunteer and get involved and maybe your expertise may become useful to the Chapter and the WG. >>> >>> >>> On the issue of "benefited", Look at the workplan and the deliverables. There was no item as BENEFITS. The activities were implemented strictly as stipulated in the Terms of Reference (ToR) and in the wokplan. >>> >>> We encourage positive contribution that will lead to its further continued development and evolution because language varies from region to region. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Charles >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> >>> >>>> On 31 March 2014 10:20, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Ali, >>>> That is a very good reminder and hopefully we should engage in making the chapter vibrant in projects not only focus on one project or so. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel Omondi >>>> +254722756211 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the AGM as I already had another engagement scheduled out of town. >>>> >>>> I think I speak for the rest of the elected officials when I say that there shall be transparency and accountability on usage of funds and that we shall ensure we get the best value for money for any activities we engage in. >>>> >>>> Ali Hussein >>>> >>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Kelvin Kamau <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @rapundo, >>>>> >>>>> I dnt think i asked any questions i gave a proposition.(read email thread) >>>>> >>>>> the reason i assumed that Mr Ali is best to answer at the right time is >>>>> >>>>> 1. he is mandated by virtual of an election >>>>> 2. this will be an independent audit by his office noting that he has not participated in any financials before his election. >>>>> >>>>> all in all It is an AGM agenda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Rapudo Hawi <rapudohawi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Kelvin, >>>>> >>>>> I have read through the report. it is substantial but needs review any other report done. >>>>> >>>>> As a member, I ask what is the issue you are putting out? i feel this is not the right forum for such engagement regarding accountability. The issue of the report will be part of the AGM? Why not ask the questions at the forum? >>>>> >>>>> I feel that ISOC kenya is entering into next phase that would transform our actions. I salute the team for guiding us into this juncture >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> Why dont we give time to the budgets and finace controller to receive all documentations and financial records from the previous interim members ? Am sure once this is done Mr Ali will be able to explain what he inherited, current financial situation as well as address any questions. That would be my proposition unless Mr Ali would like to take any other measures then its welcome that we hear whats in his plate. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles, >>>>>> You are right, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. But the wiki is not professional, far from it. >>>>>> I am sorry you sacrificed time for that, but at least you were well rewarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You see, this is the first time a report (read financial report) is being published about an ISOC project. >>>>>> Had this been published before elections..... >>>>>> And now that you have invited me to look more closely at the report, expect even more questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But please answer my question, who benefited financially from this "project". names names names! >>>>>> ----------- >>>>>> @ Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Question, but it only shows that you either did not read or understand >>>>>> the full report and only went for the figures. to say the least, by >>>>>> professional standards, those figures are even low. At the onset, we also >>>>>> thought it was alot of money, but when it came to the real work, looking >>>>>> for professional translators to deliver quality output in concise >>>>>> translation, editing etc, as required by the UNESCO, we had to sacrifice >>>>>> most of time in order to deliver. This aspect is well captured in the wiki >>>>>> report. >>>>>> >>>>>> In this regard we encourage members to get involved and participate in such >>>>>> activities in future order to understand what goes on. >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki is and related iformation available @ >>>>>> http://dcom.co.ke/index.php?title=Main_Page >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Charles >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bad bad translation by all means. You are right, these were not professionals. >>>>>> And yes, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. >>>>>> From: Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo at gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: 2014-03-28 9:04 GMT+03:00 >>>>>> Subject: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports >>>>>> To: "isoc at lists.my.co.ke" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, >>>>>> All that money just to translate? Where is the wiki? Who was the >>>>>> beneficiary? No wonder the elections were hotly contested! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Charles Oluoch Oloo >>>>>> Innovative Web Applications Developer >>>>>> Tel: +254-721-909757+254-721-909757, 738-275001 >>>>>> Alt. E-mail: coloo at kefri.org >>>>>>

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IP address
by Kelvin Kamau 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

Not sure if this is the correct platform however am looking at a technical practicality. In Nairobi some ISP will migrate one from canopy broadband to fiber and clients will retain there public Ip addresses In some regions migration from coaxial cable to fiber you have zero chance of retaining the public ip addresses or rather this cannot be migrated over. why is this ? is it because the backbone in Nairobi is one and other regions have several backbones hence cannot move over the different backbones ? greg , joly and all any ideas ? regards, kelvin

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Fwd: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 meeting - 42 boursiers pour la 50ème réunion de l'ICANN
by Barrack Otieno 01 Apr '14

01 Apr '14

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Yaovi Atohoun" <yaovi.atohoun(a)icann.org> Date: Mar 31, 2014 9:03 PM Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] 42 fellows for the ICANN 50 meeting - 42 boursiers pour la 50ème réunion de l'ICANN To: "AfrICANN list" <africann(a)afrinic.net> Dear all (Français plus bas) 42 fellows from 34 countries have been selected to participate in ICANN's Fellowship program at the 50th Public Meeting in London, 22-26 June 2014. More informagtion at http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-31mar14-en.htm The 51st ICANN meeting in Los Angeles to be held 12-16 October 2014 - Application Round opens: 18 April 2014 at 23:59 UTC - Application Round closes: 2 June 2014 at 23:59 UTC - Selected Fellows announced: 14 July 2014 Thanks ----------- Bonjour à tous, 42 boursiers provenant de 34 pays ont été sélectionnés pour participer à la 50ème réunion de L'ICANN qui aura lieu à Londres du 22 au 26 Juin 2014. Plus d'information sur l'annonce à l'adresse http://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-31mar14-en.htm La 51ème réunion de l'ICANN aura lieu à Los Angeles du 12 au 16 Octobre 2014 La réception des demandes de bourses commence le 18 Avril 2014 à 23:59 UTC Date limite de réception des demandes le 2 juin 2014 à 23:59 UTC Laliste des candidats retenus sera publiée le 14 Juillet 2014 Merci - Yaovi Atohoun Stakeholder Engagement and Operations Manager - Africa ICANN - www.icann.org Mobile : +229 66015649 / 97891228 Skype : yaovi.atohoun.icann _______________________________________________ AfrICANN mailing list AfrICANN(a)afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann

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Re: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports
by Kelvin Githira 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

The AGM offered a platform to ask and get responces to your queries especialy the financials, did you get answeres at the AGM ? Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:27 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > @ Kelvin, usinidismiss. I would not want to get into an argument about Swahili,but "Jukwaa hili i wazi " could never be correct be it in Kenya, TZ, Congo or Kibera. Ask even Google translate. I know translation is difficult but I still, maswali tutauliza. I pointed out inconsistencies "Mashine mashini" and some glaring mistakes where a paragraph was quoted. From my last email I said > The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. > > > "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti > kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, > kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji > kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi > ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " > > ISOC got the money but some individuals were paid to do the translation. Who are these? > > From the minutes, and the Chairmans report, it seems that the project was not handled by ISOC but by Charles. So questions go to Charles. > @ Grace : And by the way, where are ISOC financial statements. I know ISOC did IGF and some meetings, I am looking forward to see how much was spent. Did you send us the ISOC financials? I don't think so, why? > > K > > >> On 31 March 2014 13:58, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >> @ kiarie, >> >> I was involved in wiki 1 and one of the issues that came up while translating is unesco wanted isoc to involve countries like tanzania. >> Thus the swahili you think is grammatically incorrect un tanzania it is swahili sanifu. >> >> Like most have asked what are your ideas of improving this project. You fail to address this. >> >> This money to my knowledge was deposited to isoc bank account who was the beneficiary ? Isoc ke was. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> First of all thank you for also joining in the discussion and saving me from the fuming chair. >>> I respect your views Daniel but do not think that being politically correct will take ISOC to the next level. >>> >>> >>> Questions must be answered, ili tuwe na real transparency. >>> @ Jane, I honestly think that a kawa Swahili speaker would not be helped so much by the website. >>> The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. >>> >>> >>> >>> "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti >>> kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, >>> kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji >>> kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi >>> ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " >>> >>> Why did I not comment before? Because this project report has never been posted . >>> I have looked through the archives. There was only a call for people to join but never an update. >>> >>> >>> I know you will say that people don't respond to ISOC mails. Me I say that even reading them is a kind of response. >>> I never attend ISOC meetings but the minutes are still posted and I read them. >>> Bottom line, I want to know who "benefited". Kwani whats so hard in giving names? >>> >>> I thought this is a new ISOC that wants to do things differently. I will smell a rat until you show me there is no rat. >>> >>> >>> >>> Kiarie >>> ----------- >>> Jane, >>> That is a great contribution as one family let us all bring forth ideas which needs funding and bank on such donors like UNESCO and more. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Daniel Omondi >>> +254722756211+254722756211+254722756211+254722756211 >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:05 AM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools at yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Dear All >>> What we all need is to contribute towards improving the report.Members could send the comments they have.The executive can have a small group to put together the very final document that can be acceptable to all members. However UNESCO may have a format as to how there reports could be done. >>> >>> I recall a post inviting people to join a working group to work on UNESCO Program. In the new year let us all be active and participate in activities in good time to ensure success of programs that would be implemented. >>> >>> >>> UNESCO Programs have timelines and the sooner we finish on this the better for the chapter. This being a major partner we should keep them and come up with more programs that JACO can fund >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:49 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> +1 @ Ali Hussein >>> >>> @ Kiarie "But the wiki is not professional," >>> Thanks for the analysis of the wiki. www.dcom.co.ke Can you suggest improvements as to how best way you would have liked it to be, appearance, usability etc. If you have the technical skills (english/swahili translation or programming-coding), please step in and lend a hand. Are you an ISOC member. If not please join, volunteer and get involved and maybe your expertise may become useful to the Chapter and the WG. >>> >>> >>> On the issue of "benefited", Look at the workplan and the deliverables. There was no item as BENEFITS. The activities were implemented strictly as stipulated in the Terms of Reference (ToR) and in the wokplan. >>> >>> We encourage positive contribution that will lead to its further continued development and evolution because language varies from region to region. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Charles >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> Call >>> Send SMS >>> Add to Skype >>> You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype >>> >>> >>>> On 31 March 2014 10:20, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> Ali, >>>> That is a very good reminder and hopefully we should engage in making the chapter vibrant in projects not only focus on one project or so. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Daniel Omondi >>>> +254722756211 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >>>> Hi all >>>> >>>> Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the AGM as I already had another engagement scheduled out of town. >>>> >>>> I think I speak for the rest of the elected officials when I say that there shall be transparency and accountability on usage of funds and that we shall ensure we get the best value for money for any activities we engage in. >>>> >>>> Ali Hussein >>>> >>>> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >>>> >>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>>> Skype: abu-jomo >>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >>>> >>>> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Kelvin Kamau <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> @rapundo, >>>>> >>>>> I dnt think i asked any questions i gave a proposition.(read email thread) >>>>> >>>>> the reason i assumed that Mr Ali is best to answer at the right time is >>>>> >>>>> 1. he is mandated by virtual of an election >>>>> 2. this will be an independent audit by his office noting that he has not participated in any financials before his election. >>>>> >>>>> all in all It is an AGM agenda. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Rapudo Hawi <rapudohawi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Kelvin, >>>>> >>>>> I have read through the report. it is substantial but needs review any other report done. >>>>> >>>>> As a member, I ask what is the issue you are putting out? i feel this is not the right forum for such engagement regarding accountability. The issue of the report will be part of the AGM? Why not ask the questions at the forum? >>>>> >>>>> I feel that ISOC kenya is entering into next phase that would transform our actions. I salute the team for guiding us into this juncture >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>>>> Why dont we give time to the budgets and finace controller to receive all documentations and financial records from the previous interim members ? Am sure once this is done Mr Ali will be able to explain what he inherited, current financial situation as well as address any questions. That would be my proposition unless Mr Ali would like to take any other measures then its welcome that we hear whats in his plate. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Charles, >>>>>> You are right, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. But the wiki is not professional, far from it. >>>>>> I am sorry you sacrificed time for that, but at least you were well rewarded. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> You see, this is the first time a report (read financial report) is being published about an ISOC project. >>>>>> Had this been published before elections..... >>>>>> And now that you have invited me to look more closely at the report, expect even more questions. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> But please answer my question, who benefited financially from this "project". names names names! >>>>>> ----------- >>>>>> @ Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Question, but it only shows that you either did not read or understand >>>>>> the full report and only went for the figures. to say the least, by >>>>>> professional standards, those figures are even low. At the onset, we also >>>>>> thought it was alot of money, but when it came to the real work, looking >>>>>> for professional translators to deliver quality output in concise >>>>>> translation, editing etc, as required by the UNESCO, we had to sacrifice >>>>>> most of time in order to deliver. This aspect is well captured in the wiki >>>>>> report. >>>>>> >>>>>> In this regard we encourage members to get involved and participate in such >>>>>> activities in future order to understand what goes on. >>>>>> >>>>>> The wiki is and related iformation available @ >>>>>> http://dcom.co.ke/index.php?title=Main_Page >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Charles >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bad bad translation by all means. You are right, these were not professionals. >>>>>> And yes, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. >>>>>> From: Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo at gmail.com> >>>>>> Date: 2014-03-28 9:04 GMT+03:00 >>>>>> Subject: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports >>>>>> To: "isoc at lists.my.co.ke" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Wow, >>>>>> All that money just to translate? Where is the wiki? Who was the >>>>>> beneficiary? No wonder the elections were hotly contested! >>>>>> >>>>>> Kiarie >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Charles Oluoch Oloo >>>>>> Innovative Web Applications Developer >>>>>> Tel: +254-721-909757+254-721-909757, 738-275001 >>>>>> Alt. E-mail: coloo at kefri.org >>>>>>

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Re: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports
by Kelvin Githira 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

@ kiarie, I was involved in wiki 1 and one of the issues that came up while translating is unesco wanted isoc to involve countries like tanzania. Thus the swahili you think is grammatically incorrect un tanzania it is swahili sanifu. Like most have asked what are your ideas of improving this project. You fail to address this. This money to my knowledge was deposited to isoc bank account who was the beneficiary ? Isoc ke was. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:49 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > First of all thank you for also joining in the discussion and saving me from the fuming chair. > I respect your views Daniel but do not think that being politically correct will take ISOC to the next level. > > Questions must be answered, ili tuwe na real transparency. > @ Jane, I honestly think that a kawa Swahili speaker would not be helped so much by the website. > The translations are inconsistent- sometimes "mashine" sometimes "mashini" etc. Then there are small small mistakes like on the first page. > > > "Tafsiri za lugha hubadilika na huwa tofauti > kulingana na mazingara, hasa katika usemi na mazungumzo. Kwa sababu hii, > kuna uwekano wa kuwa na tafsiri mbadala na kwa hiyo, tunataraji > kuimarisha na kuboresha jukwaa hili siku zijazo kwa kutoa rekodi recodi > ya usemi wa istilahi hizi kutoka maeneo mbalimbali. " > > Why did I not comment before? Because this project report has never been posted . > I have looked through the archives. There was only a call for people to join but never an update. > > I know you will say that people don't respond to ISOC mails. Me I say that even reading them is a kind of response. > I never attend ISOC meetings but the minutes are still posted and I read them. > Bottom line, I want to know who "benefited". Kwani whats so hard in giving names? > > I thought this is a new ISOC that wants to do things differently. I will smell a rat until you show me there is no rat. > > > Kiarie > ----------- > Jane, > That is a great contribution as one family let us all bring forth ideas which needs funding and bank on such donors like UNESCO and more. > > Thanks > > Daniel Omondi > +254722756211+254722756211+254722756211+254722756211 > > > On Sunday, March 30, 2014 7:05 AM, Network of non- formal Educational institutions <nnfeischools at yahoo.com> wrote: > > Dear All > What we all need is to contribute towards improving the report.Members could send the comments they have.The executive can have a small group to put together the very final document that can be acceptable to all members. However UNESCO may have a format as to how there reports could be done. > > I recall a post inviting people to join a working group to work on UNESCO Program. In the new year let us all be active and participate in activities in good time to ensure success of programs that would be implemented. > > > UNESCO Programs have timelines and the sooner we finish on this the better for the chapter. This being a major partner we should keep them and come up with more programs that JACO can fund > > Jane > > On Saturday, March 29, 2014 2:49 PM, Charles Oloo <oloo6382 at gmail.com> wrote: > > > +1 @ Ali Hussein > > @ Kiarie "But the wiki is not professional," > Thanks for the analysis of the wiki. www.dcom.co.ke Can you suggest improvements as to how best way you would have liked it to be, appearance, usability etc. If you have the technical skills (english/swahili translation or programming-coding), please step in and lend a hand. Are you an ISOC member. If not please join, volunteer and get involved and maybe your expertise may become useful to the Chapter and the WG. > > > On the issue of "benefited", Look at the workplan and the deliverables. There was no item as BENEFITS. The activities were implemented strictly as stipulated in the Terms of Reference (ToR) and in the wokplan. > > We encourage positive contribution that will lead to its further continued development and evolution because language varies from region to region. > > > Regards > > Charles > Call > Send SMS > Add to Skype > You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype > Call > Send SMS > Add to Skype > You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype > > >> On 31 March 2014 10:20, Daniel Otieno Omondi <dottocomp(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Ali, >> That is a very good reminder and hopefully we should engage in making the chapter vibrant in projects not only focus on one project or so. >> >> Thanks >> >> Daniel Omondi >> +254722756211 >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 7:29 AM, Ali Hussein <ali(a)hussein.me.ke> wrote: >> Hi all >> >> Unfortunately I won't be able to attend the AGM as I already had another engagement scheduled out of town. >> >> I think I speak for the rest of the elected officials when I say that there shall be transparency and accountability on usage of funds and that we shall ensure we get the best value for money for any activities we engage in. >> >> Ali Hussein >> >> +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 >> >> Twitter: @AliHKassim >> Skype: abu-jomo >> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >> Blog: www.alyhussein.com >> >> "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:07 PM, Kelvin Kamau <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>> >>> @rapundo, >>> >>> I dnt think i asked any questions i gave a proposition.(read email thread) >>> >>> the reason i assumed that Mr Ali is best to answer at the right time is >>> >>> 1. he is mandated by virtual of an election >>> 2. this will be an independent audit by his office noting that he has not participated in any financials before his election. >>> >>> all in all It is an AGM agenda. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Rapudo Hawi <rapudohawi(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Kelvin, >>> >>> I have read through the report. it is substantial but needs review any other report done. >>> >>> As a member, I ask what is the issue you are putting out? i feel this is not the right forum for such engagement regarding accountability. The issue of the report will be part of the AGM? Why not ask the questions at the forum? >>> >>> I feel that ISOC kenya is entering into next phase that would transform our actions. I salute the team for guiding us into this juncture >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM, Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> wrote: >>> Why dont we give time to the budgets and finace controller to receive all documentations and financial records from the previous interim members ? Am sure once this is done Mr Ali will be able to explain what he inherited, current financial situation as well as address any questions. That would be my proposition unless Mr Ali would like to take any other measures then its welcome that we hear whats in his plate. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Charles, >>>> You are right, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. But the wiki is not professional, far from it. >>>> I am sorry you sacrificed time for that, but at least you were well rewarded. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> You see, this is the first time a report (read financial report) is being published about an ISOC project. >>>> Had this been published before elections..... >>>> And now that you have invited me to look more closely at the report, expect even more questions. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> But please answer my question, who benefited financially from this "project". names names names! >>>> ----------- >>>> @ Kiarie >>>> >>>> Good Question, but it only shows that you either did not read or understand >>>> the full report and only went for the figures. to say the least, by >>>> professional standards, those figures are even low. At the onset, we also >>>> thought it was alot of money, but when it came to the real work, looking >>>> for professional translators to deliver quality output in concise >>>> translation, editing etc, as required by the UNESCO, we had to sacrifice >>>> most of time in order to deliver. This aspect is well captured in the wiki >>>> report. >>>> >>>> In this regard we encourage members to get involved and participate in such >>>> activities in future order to understand what goes on. >>>> >>>> The wiki is and related iformation available @ >>>> http://dcom.co.ke/index.php?title=Main_Page >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> Charles >>>> >>>> >>>> Bad bad translation by all means. You are right, these were not professionals. >>>> And yes, I followed the money. Numbers don't lie. >>>> From: Kiarie Wagitungo <wagitungo at gmail.com> >>>> Date: 2014-03-28 9:04 GMT+03:00 >>>> Subject: [ISOC_KE] UNESCO Project Reports >>>> To: "isoc at lists.my.co.ke" <isoc at lists.my.co.ke> >>>> >>>> >>>> Wow, >>>> All that money just to translate? Where is the wiki? Who was the >>>> beneficiary? No wonder the elections were hotly contested! >>>> >>>> Kiarie >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Charles Oluoch Oloo >>>> Innovative Web Applications Developer >>>> Tel: +254-721-909757+254-721-909757, 738-275001 >>>> Alt. E-mail: coloo at kefri.org >>>>

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Fw: CALL FOR APPLICATIONS: M:LAB MOBILE IMPACT VENTURES PROGRAM
by Daniel Otieno Omondi 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

FYI On Saturday, February 22, 2014 10:06 PM, m:lab East Africa <pivot(a)mlab.co.ke> wrote: CALL FOR APPLICATIONS: M:LAB MOBILE IMPACT VENTURES PROGRAM View this email in your browser Farmers app demo during a Wireless Wednesday Call for Applications: m:lab Impact Ventures ProgramStartup teams committed to solving social and economic problems of people in developing nations are invited to apply for a new program at the m:lab... more APPLY NOW! Sponsoring partners The m:lab Awarded Impact Economy Innovations Grant Mlab East Africa (m:lab) is among the seven organizations that won the Rockefeller Foundation and the Tony Elumelu Foundation‘s Africa Impact Economy Innovations Fund (IEIF).As a fund administered by the Global Impact Investing Network (GIIN), the IEIF provides capital for entrepreneurs with projects that create jobs in underserved sectors... more Copyright © 2014 m:lab East Africa, All rights reserved. Our mailing address is: info(a)mlab.co.ke unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences This email was sent to dottocomp(a)yahoo.com why did I get this? unsubscribe from this list update subscription preferences m:lab East Africa · Bishop Magua Center · 000 · Nairobi 00200 · Kenya

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A Poison Pill for Safaricom's QoS woes? Will Collymore blink?
by Ali Hussein 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

The Kenyan Regulator has presented Safaricom with a catch22 situation:- Sort out your QoS issues or we will slap you with punitive fines..and by the way we just might not renew your license! Oh...Also note that for you to be able to sort out your QoS issues you need more frequency than you (or us) currently have. Wait a minute! There might just be a way out of this conundrum! Acquire yumobile assets (which include frequencies). However before we approve your acquisition of these assets which will improve your QoS issues you MUST open up the Safaricom Agent Network. Question: is it the business of the regulator to ask companies to open up their hard earned Agent Networks? Is this akin to the Central Bank asking a dominant bank to allow its branches to be operated jointly by other banks? Or should the regulator focus on interoperability of the technology network? Ali Hussein +254 0770 906375 / 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim Blog: www.alyhussein.com "I fear the day technology will surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots". ~ Albert Einstein Sent from my iPad

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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 33, Issue 105
by Charles Oloo 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

+1 @ Ali Hussein @ Kiarie "But the wiki is not professional," Thanks for the analysis of the wiki. www.dcom.co.ke Can you suggest improvements as to how best way you would have liked it to be, appearance, usability etc. If you have the technical skills (english/swahili translation or programming-coding), please step in and lend a hand. Are you an ISOC member. If not please join, volunteer and get involved and maybe your expertise may become useful to the Chapter and the WG. On the issue of "benefited", Look at the workplan and the deliverables. There was no item as BENEFITS. The activities were implemented strictly as stipulated in the Terms of Reference (ToR) and in the wokplan. We encourage positive contribution that will lead to its further continued development and evolution because language varies from region to region. Regards Charles On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Intresting read (Kelvin Githira) > 2. Re: Intresting read (Joly MacFie) > 3. Re: UNESCO Project Reports (Ali Hussein) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:14:29 -0400 > From: Kelvin Githira <kelvin(a)skysys.co.ke> > To: ISOC Kenya <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke>, kictanet(a)lists.kictanet.or.ke > Subject: [ISOC_KE] Intresting read > Message-ID: <28180B9A-A931-47EE-85AB-D7B65D831A8D(a)skysys.co.ke> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/wanted-internet-voting-and-internet-f… > > Sent from my iPhone >

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Fw: iWeekly | March 31st 2014 | KIDS HACKER CAMP: APRIL EDITION
by Daniel Otieno Omondi 31 Mar '14

31 Mar '14

FYI On Monday, March 31, 2014 10:11 AM, *iHub_ Nairobi <mailer(a)ihub.co.ke> wrote: iHub Nairobi iHub's Weekly Newsletter Monday, March 31st 2014 iHub News KIDS HACKER CAMP: APRIL EDITION Kids Hacker Camp is a week-long camp hosted at *iHub_– Nairobi’s Innovation Hub for the technology community. The camp is aimed at kids and teens aged 7 – 18 years, who are drawn to and interested in crafting, hacking, discovering and tinkering. The camp is envisioned and designed to provide an engaging platform on which children...more+ GREEN MEMBERS: INTERESTED IN GROOMING THE NEXT GENERATION OF KENYAN TECHIES? Waza (Swahili for “Active Thinking”) Experience aims to foster active thinking and creativity in Kenyan youth. We are looking for iHub Green or Red members to volunteer their time to help mentor the next generation of Kenyan techies....more+ CHASE BANK KENYA: GOLD SPONSOR FOR PIVOT EAST 2014 PIVOT East team is delighted to announce Chase Bank Kenya as the Gold sponsor for PIVOT East 2014. The sponsorship was officially announced during a media briefing that was held on 27th March 2014 at the iHub. Chase Bank (K) Ltd is one of the fastest growing bank in Kenya...more+ THE 5 COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS THAT REVOLVE AROUND RECYCLING E WASTE The 5 common misconceptions that revolve around Recycling E waste.Over the years, we have seen a rapid advancement in technology, and with it, a rapid rise in the number of E waste generated across countries the world over, fortunately ,this has paved the way for numerous books, articles, demonstrations and...more+ MOBILE MONDAY MARCH 2014 Microsoft4Afrika Initiative last month commemorated 1 year since its inception in February 2013. This month’s mobile Monday that will take place on Monday, 31st March from 6-8pm at the iHub will highlight key 4Afrika programs and their beneficiaries, at the same time showcasing the opportunities for developers...more+ KIDS TECH + ARTS CAMP Gone are the days it was fun making your own necklace using beans and strings, making your own football ball, Akirachix is re-igniting this experience but adding a little bit of tech as well. If you have a kid or know of one who will benefit, get in touch by sending an email to lkamau(a)akirachix.com or call 0723935796...more+ REPORT: COUNTERING DANGEROUS SPEECH DURING KENYAN ELECTIONS Professor Susan Benesch, a Faculty Associate of the Berkman Center for Internet and Society at Harvard University and research advisor on the Umati project has released a report describing a set of violence prevention methods carried out in Kenya during the national elections of 2013, to counter inflammatory speech...more+ AFFORDABLE MANAGEMENT TRAINING WITH AFRICAN MANAGEMENT INITIATIVE, APRIL 8TH African Management Initiative (AMI) is hosting its next learning lab on April 8th 2014. The training will be held at the iHub, Bishop Magua Centre, 4th floor from 9:00 am to 5:00 pm, run by experienced facilitators from the African Management Initiative, with video content from South Africa’s Gordon Institute of Business ...more+ Events ________________________________ * Mobile Monday * Affordable Management Training With African Management Initiative Jobs ________________________________ * Web Ui Developer * Android Developer * Sr. Platform Engineer (Ruby On Rails) * Marketing, Website & Social Media Coordinator * Communications And New Media Coordinator, Somalia * Graphic Designer * Digital Media Assistant * Geo-mapping Developer * Web Developer PARTNERS ________________________________ 4th floor, Bishop Magua Centre, Ngong Road, Nairobi Kenya. P.O Box 58275, 00200 Nairobi Kenya. Email: info(at)ihub.co.ke ________________________________ Open space for the techies, tech companies, creatives, investors, and hackers in the area. The iHub space is a tech community facility with a focus on young entrepreneurs, web/mobile phone programmers, designers and researchers. It is part open community work space (co-working), part vector for investors and VCs and part incubator. Unsubscribe | Update my profile | View PDF | Pause subscription Email powered by This email was sent to dottocomp(a)yahoo.com on 31-03-2014 by ihub 4th floor, Bishop Magua Centre, Ngong Road, Nairobi,Kenya ihub is intended for opt in communication only. If you feel this email is unsolicited please report it to us.

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