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07 Dec '11

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Re: [ISOC_KE] isoc Digest, Vol 6, Issue 6
by Charles Oloo 06 Dec '11

06 Dec '11

ISOC By Law <http://isockenyabylaws.wikispaces.com/ISOC+By+Law> on WIKI. A big leap. Bravo, congratulations. But registering is abit cumbersome !! Charles On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:00 AM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Draft-Bylaws Managing the Wiki (Davis Onsakia) > 2. Re: Draft-Bylaws (Tom Oketch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 01:08:42 -0800 (PST) > From: Davis Onsakia <mautidavis(a)yahoo.com> > To: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com>, "Grace Mutung'u > \(Bomu\)" <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Judy Okite <judyokite(a)gmail.com>, "isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke" > <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Draft-Bylaws Managing the Wiki > Message-ID: > <1323076122.78196.YahooMailNeo(a)web113216.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Barrack, Grace, > > Thanks so much for the link. > ? > Regards and many thanks, > Davis M Onsakia > > 'The minute you settle for less than you deserve, you get even less than > you settled for.' - Maureen Dowd > > > ________________________________ > From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > To: Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> > Cc: Judy Okite <judyokite(a)gmail.com>; isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [ISOC_KE] Draft-Bylaws Managing the Wiki > > Thanks Grace, @ > Davishttp://isockenyabylaws.wikispaces.com/ISOC+By+Law, you may use > that link to access the wiki. > > Best Regards > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Grace Mutung'u (Bomu) > <nmutungu(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Barrack, > > Thanks for the honour:) > > Dear All, > > Thanks for your comments so far. Please keep them coming. > > I will not edit until people have had a chance to give their comments. I > > only ask that please, whenever you make a comment about your > dissatisfaction > > with a particular clause (and such comments are most welcome), please > make > > suggestion(s) of what you would like to see in the alternative, even if > not > > in legal language. That will make it easier to understand the intent of > your > > comment and ISOC Ke at large. > > Keep them coming! > > > > Grace > > > > 2011/12/5 Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > >> > >> Dear All, > >> > >> I have made McTim and Grace Bomu organisers of the wiki meaning they > >> can edit the page, the rest of the membership, kindly read through the > >> by-laws and post your comments in the discussion area with the > >> respective title header, the comments will then be incorporated into > >> the bylaws by the organisers, members will then be able to view the > >> updated document. > >> > >> Thank you > >> > >> Best Regards > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Barrack Otieno < > otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > Our legal experts will then incorporate the changes to the Final draft > >> > :-)), what is IIUC by the way? :-)) > >> > > >> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Barrack Otieno > >> > <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Dear McTIM, all, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> You are meant to post your comments in the discussion area? Indicate > >> >> the section and the proposed change as it is you will not be able to > >> >> edit the text area, you may check the discussion area to see the > other > >> >> comments you made which have been posted there. > >> >> > >> >> Thank you > >> >> > >> >> Best Regards > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:40 AM, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> Hi, > >> >>> > >> >>> I;ve logged in, but find i can't edit the text of the by-laws > itself. > >> >>> > >> >>> Am I missing something? > >> >>> > >> >>> For example, I wanted to change the name to ISOC Kenya Chapter, as > per > >> >>> suggestions from ISOC about their conventional naming scheme. > >> >>> > >> >>> Where do I do that? > >> >>> > >> >>> What use is a wiki if we can't edit the text itself. ?That is the > >> >>> point of a wiki IIUC! > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> Cheers, > >> >>> > >> >>> McTim > >> >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A > >> >>> route indicates how we get there."? Jon Postel > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> Barrack O. Otieno > >> >> +254721325277 > >> >> +254-20-2498789 > >> >> Skype: barrack.otieno > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Barrack O. Otieno > >> > +254721325277 > >> > +254-20-2498789 > >> > Skype: barrack.otieno > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Barrack O. Otieno > >> +254721325277 > >> +254-20-2498789 > >> Skype: barrack.otieno > >> _______________________________________________ > >> isoc mailing list > >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Grace L.N. Mutung'u (Bomu) > > Kenya > > Skype: gracebomu > > Twitter: GraceMutung'u (Bomu) > > > > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno > _______________________________________________ > isoc mailing list > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc >

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Re: [ISOC_KE] Draft-Bylaws
by Judy Okite 05 Dec '11

05 Dec '11

thank you,Seth for bringing this up, I thought that I was the only one who had missed, it. Is anyone working on the by-laws? Kind Regards, “To live is to choose. But to choose well, you must know who you are and what you stand for, where you want to go and why you want to get there.” Kofi Annan On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 12:00 PM, <isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke> wrote: > Send isoc mailing list submissions to > isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > isoc-request(a)lists.my.co.ke > > You can reach the person managing the list at > isoc-owner(a)lists.my.co.ke > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of isoc digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Draft By-Laws (Seth Orlale) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 02:58:33 -0800 (PST) > From: Seth Orlale <sethorlale(a)yahoo.com> > To: ISOC Mailing List <isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke> > Subject: [ISOC_KE] Draft By-Laws > Message-ID: > <1322650713.99300.YahooMailNeo(a)web46304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello fellas, > How is the Draft By-Laws on wiki going? or how are we meant to submit our > views in the time being? > > ? > Seth Orlale > Better Living International > +254 722 597912 >

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Re: [ISOC_KE] Draft-Bylaws Managing the Wiki
by Barrack Otieno 05 Dec '11

05 Dec '11

Dear All, I have made McTim and Grace Bomu organisers of the wiki meaning they can edit the page, the rest of the membership, kindly read through the by-laws and post your comments in the discussion area with the respective title header, the comments will then be incorporated into the bylaws by the organisers, members will then be able to view the updated document. Thank you Best Regards On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Our legal experts will then incorporate the changes to the Final draft > :-)), what is IIUC by the way? :-)) > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Dear McTIM, all, >> >> >> You are meant to post your comments in the discussion area? Indicate >> the section and the proposed change as it is you will not be able to >> edit the text area, you may check the discussion area to see the other >> comments you made which have been posted there. >> >> Thank you >> >> Best Regards >> >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:40 AM, McTim <dogwallah(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I;ve logged in, but find i can't edit the text of the by-laws itself. >>> >>> Am I missing something? >>> >>> For example, I wanted to change the name to ISOC Kenya Chapter, as per >>> suggestions from ISOC about their conventional naming scheme. >>> >>> Where do I do that? >>> >>> What use is a wiki if we can't edit the text itself. That is the >>> point of a wiki IIUC! >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Cheers, >>> >>> McTim >>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> >> -- >> Barrack O. Otieno >> +254721325277 >> +254-20-2498789 >> Skype: barrack.otieno > > > > -- > Barrack O. Otieno > +254721325277 > +254-20-2498789 > Skype: barrack.otieno -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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Re: [ISOC_KE] ByLaws Wiki
by Barrack Otieno 04 Dec '11

04 Dec '11

Dear Members, I hope you have received an invitation to join a Wiki that will help us in editing the by laws, i know some members like McTim had already sent in their comments, i do hope that we can put add our comments in the discussion area highlighting the respective sections for easier editing as we go along, do not hesitate to contact me should you need any guidance on how to use the wiki. Thank you Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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by Daniel Otieno Omondi 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

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Re: [ISOC_KE] ISOC Kenya Bylaws
by Barrack Otieno 02 Dec '11

02 Dec '11

Very Well Sabrina, thanks for the clarification. Best Regards On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Sabrina Wilmot <wilmot(a)isoc.org> wrote: > Please note that following the naming convention for Chapters of the Internet Society, the Chapter would be called "Internet Society Kenya Chapter". > > Best regards, > Sabrina Wilmot > Manager, Chapter Formation > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Internet Society > http://www.internetsociety.org > http://www.twitter.com/internetsociety > http://www.youtube.com/internetsocietyvideo > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > What will the Internet look like in 10 years? > Watch the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OInTXcZ4HZM > For more information: www.internetsociety.org/scenarios > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On 1 Dec 2011, at 18:01, McTim wrote: > >> my nits; >> >> The name of this Society is the Internet Society Kenya Society >> >> Can it just be "The name of this Society is the Internet Society Kenya" ? >> >> >> (6)No member convicted of an offense punishable by imprisonment for a >> period exceeding 6 years or a violation of these By-Laws within 3 >> years prior to the date of his election of appointment shall qualify >> as a trustee. >> >> >> Why six years? If I shoot someone and only get 5 years, I can still >> be a trustee? >> >> "(5)A quorum for a General Meeting shall consist of a third of active members." >> >> I think that is a 'big ask", but may be wrong. >> >> >> >> Miscellaneous >> >> "In the event of an ambiguity in the interpretation of any provision >> of these By-laws, the Board of Trustees shall resolve such ambiguity, >> and the By-laws shall be amended to reflect such resolution in >> accordance with ISOC procedures." >> >> which ISOC procedures? the global or local? >> >> >> "No official business of the Society, the Board of Trustees, the >> Executive Committee, or any Standing Committee shall be conducted >> unless a quorum of the relevant body is present, as the case may be." >> >> >> What constitutes a quorum? >> >> >> "In the event of any tie votes of the general membership, the Chair >> shall have a casting vote." >> >> meaning "deciding vote"? If so why not say that? >> >> >> >> "Unless otherwise specifically provided for in these By-laws, a simple >> majority of the members of the relevant body (as the case may be), who >> are present and voting shall be required to carry a motion or >> nomination." >> >> see quorum comment above. >> >> >> "These By-laws or any provision thereof may be amended or repealed by >> a majority vote of the members at any General meeting duly held for >> the purpose." >> >> >> What if the GM is NOT held for the purpose, but is an AGM? I would >> strike the phrase "duly held for the purpose" >> >> >> "All proposed changes to these By-laws shall have been approved by at >> least 20 members before being presented to the Society members for a >> vote." >> >> >> How do 20 people approve of it before it is voted on? >> >> So we have simple majority at times (could be 2 out of 3 people at a >> meeting), a quorum (undefined) required at other times, but nothing >> can be voted on unless 20 ppl approve? >> >> >> In general, it is a very heavyweight structure, requiring lots of >> volunteer time (membership committee, budget committee, lots of >> officers, etc. >> >> Can we sustain such a structure? >> >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> >> McTim >> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A >> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11/21/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> Dear All, >>> Please go through the By-Laws and send in your comments, we need to >>> hand in our Chapter application process by the beginning of November >>> (1st week). We have finished our membership drive >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MV…. >>> (minimum 25 members required) facilitated by Judy Okite. Grace Bomu >>> has reviewed the by laws that are attached, i urge you all to go >>> through the by laws and comment before we move to the next step. >>> McTim, i gathered from discussions that i have had with members onlist >>> and offlist that they would prefer a national chapter for starters, >>> can you guide us in filling in the chapter application as i work on >>> the issue of local registration this week?, we will need a membership >>> meeting before the end of this month to ratify the bylaws and endorse >>> the chapter application for submission to ISOC, i urge all of us to be >>> involved, your opinion and contribution counts. >>> Best Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Barrack O. Otieno >>> +254721325277 >>> +254-20-2498789 >>> Skype: barrack.otieno >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> isoc mailing list >> isoc(a)lists.my.co.ke >> http://lists.my.co.ke/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/isoc > -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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ISOC Kenya Bylaws
by Barrack Otieno 01 Dec '11

01 Dec '11

Dear All, Please go through the By-Laws and send in your comments, we need to hand in our Chapter application process by the beginning of November (1st week). We have finished our membership drive https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArDnnGk2dZYhdGJqV1ZrTzJibEk0MV…. (minimum 25 members required) facilitated by Judy Okite. Grace Bomu has reviewed the by laws that are attached, i urge you all to go through the by laws and comment before we move to the next step. McTim, i gathered from discussions that i have had with members onlist and offlist that they would prefer a national chapter for starters, can you guide us in filling in the chapter application as i work on the issue of local registration this week?, we will need a membership meeting before the end of this month to ratify the bylaws and endorse the chapter application for submission to ISOC, i urge all of us to be involved, your opinion and contribution counts. Best Regards -- Barrack O. Otieno +254721325277 +254-20-2498789 Skype: barrack.otieno

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